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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2020

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    championc wrote: »
    I bet your installer failed to reveal that little nugget of info !!!

    Yeah, who do they think they are trying to run a business for profit.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deagol wrote: »
    TBH, the two that are ~7.5k before grant (I'm taking that means 7.5k gross) are about right I would think. Material will be around 5k. By the time the guy employs a roofer and sparks, insurances, fuel, his own costs in time etc I think ~2.5k after costs isn't extortionate.

    7.5 k for a 4.5kW system before grant equates to €5700 after grant.

    That is a rip off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 caeser


    Hi all, I’m a novice in this area but I’m trying to find out as much as I can. So I’m looking for assistance in finding a reputable installer for reasonable price. I’m looking at a 6-7kw system. I have received a few crazy quotes and their markup is huge. If anyone could point me in the right direction can you DM me please. Thanks


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    caeser wrote: »
    Hi all, I’m a novice in this area but I’m trying to find out as much as I can. So I’m looking for assistance in finding a reputable installer for reasonable price. I’m looking at a 6-7kw system. I have received a few crazy quotes and their markup is huge. If anyone could point me in the right direction can you DM me please. Thanks

    Remember to post all quotes up here and you'll get decent feedback.

    A lot of cowboys out there that will give crazy quotes hoping to catch a few people that haven't their homework done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 caeser


    6 wrote: »
    Remember to post all quotes up here and you'll get decent feedback.

    A lot of cowboys out there that will give crazy quotes hoping to catch a few people that haven't their homework done.

    Ok I got a quote of €9600 for a 6.24kw array inc. solis 5kw inverter and a 2.4 battery. This price was after the seai grant so add on 3k. Another quote was for a 6.48kw system with same details for €12600 excluding the grant..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,183 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Bloody hell...

    Disappointed-Terrible-Awful-OMG-Embarassed-Embarassing-WTF-GIF.gif

    This sums up the problem. There are people charging a reasonable mark up to make a profit. And there are people taking the absolute piss.
    caeser wrote: »
    I got a quote of €9600 for a 6.24kw array inc. solis 5kw inverter and a 2.4 battery. This price was after the seai grant

    I got essentially the exact same thing, for €3k less.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow, that's a crazy quote.

    Up there with the worst I've seen on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Is 6.8k for 4kw panels and 5kwh battery decent? That's after the 3k grant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭reni10


    TheCrank wrote: »
    Some recent quotes from 5 different companies.
    14*390w panels - €7750 (before grant)
    14*390w panels and 2.4kwh battery - €9500 (before grant)

    Could you please PM the names of the installers for both these quotes as I am getting quotes of 11k before grant for similar battery systems and I feel this is a real rip off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Cleggancrabman


    Hello all.Currently considering solar pv for a newbuild with a2w ufh.
    Have received the following quotes for supply and fit including commissioning etc. I would be interested in any feedback or recommendations.

    1- 4.68kp of modules kitted to 1 x 5.7kWh battery storage
    12 x Bisol Premium 390w Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*
    Bisol Mounting system on a Natural Slate roof
    Alpha 5 kWp Inverter kitted to 5.7kWh storage capacity
    Price: €8810 + vat = €10,000

    2- 12 no Solar Panels 375Wp totalling 4.5kWp
    Inverter, hybrid, with data/wifi card
    Price: €6,780 + vat = €7,695

    Increased size: 5.5kWp (14no panels)
    Price: €7,460 + vat = €8,467

    My Energi Eddi €620 + vat including installation

    Lithium-Ion Battery Storage Option:
    2.4kw €2250 + vat
    4.5kw €3310 + vat

    3- 14 x 325W Peimar Panels totaling 4.55kwp photovoltaic system
    1 x Solis hybrid Inverter
    My Eddi Hot Water Diverter
    Price: €7,420.00 + VAT = €8421

    4- 12 of 375 Watt Mono Trina PV Module
    Huawei hybrid Inverter (battery ready)
    My Eddi Hot Water Diverter
    Price: €7056 + vat = €7,974

    I read a lot of posts saying the hot water diverter doesnt make economic sense coupled with heat pumps.
    Without battery storage or an EV is solar pv worthwhile at all given the expected low return on FIT?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,375 ✭✭✭KCross


    When you say “for a new build”, do you mean a relatively new house or an actual new build where the panels get put in at build time?

    Regardless of that answer, the quotes are too high. The diverter price is insane and has zero chance of paying for itself, particularly since you have a HP.

    You have no access to the grant so you need to drop the batteries and the hybrid inverter also. Get the quotes down to ~€6000 inc vat if the house is already built.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Cyloncity


    Hi all,
    Looking into a PV install but like many getting a bit lost as to whether it's worth it. More accurately at what price does it become worth it?
    I'm in a refurbished to some extent old bungalow. There is a gshp for underfloor and radiators and a separate tank for domestic hot water heated by a clip on heater when not enough energy collected by 3 thermal solar panels.
    We use way above average for electrcity as a result. About 15000kw (not a typo)
    We have a day night meter and coming to the end of contract.
    Had a couple of ballpark figures of 8-9k after grant for a 5.5kw ish system split between SE and SW. With a battery 2.4kwh.

    The only official quote I got was 9900 for 18*320w panels on the se side only. And a 5kw inverter plus battery.
    Seems crazy high to me and has put me off proceeding.
    Got the feeling they wanted an easy install and were not to keen to split it so I might get some more of the later day sun.
    Anyone have any Se/SW splits about 6kw that could share their experiences I would love to hear
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭drdidlittle


    Have the quotes gone mad over the last two or three months or it me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Hello all.Currently considering solar pv for a newbuild with a2w ufh.
    Have received the following quotes for supply and fit including commissioning etc. I would be interested in any feedback or recommendations.

    1- 4.68kp of modules kitted to 1 x 5.7kWh battery storage
    12 x Bisol Premium 390w Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*
    Bisol Mounting system on a Natural Slate roof
    Alpha 5 kWp Inverter kitted to 5.7kWh storage capacity
    Price: €8810 + vat = €10,000

    2- 12 no Solar Panels 375Wp totalling 4.5kWp
    Inverter, hybrid, with data/wifi card
    Price: €6,780 + vat = €7,695

    Increased size: 5.5kWp (14no panels)
    Price: €7,460 + vat = €8,467

    My Energi Eddi €620 + vat including installation

    Lithium-Ion Battery Storage Option:
    2.4kw €2250 + vat
    4.5kw €3310 + vat

    3- 14 x 325W Peimar Panels totaling 4.55kwp photovoltaic system
    1 x Solis hybrid Inverter
    My Eddi Hot Water Diverter
    Price: €7,420.00 + VAT = €8421

    4- 12 of 375 Watt Mono Trina PV Module
    Huawei hybrid Inverter (battery ready)
    My Eddi Hot Water Diverter
    Price: €7056 + vat = €7,974

    I read a lot of posts saying the hot water diverter doesnt make economic sense coupled with heat pumps.
    Without battery storage or an EV is solar pv worthwhile at all given the expected low return on FIT?

    Don't have a heat pump system so hard to comment on the diverter in this case but I think they probably never make economic sense but certainly I like the convenience of my one giving me hot water on demand without having to turn on anything etc.

    But I would imagine that with the extra year round electricity use that heat pump systems entail with the recovery / ventilation systems solar panels make huge sense.

    In the winter they will help only a little for sure but in spring an autumn when you're still using heating I would think you would make good savings. Plus, you have all the other uses - cooking etc. For instance, last three days I've used 1.2kwh (units) of electricity in total. That's all lighting, cooking, toasters, coffee maker, tv, computers, networking run for 'free'.

    Plus, come July the FIT will mean you make some money on surplus.

    And finally, there's the whole carbon / green argument :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,183 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    SD_DRACULA wrote: »
    Is 6.8k for 4kw panels and 5kwh battery decent? That's after the 3k grant.

    It's not the worst, but not the best either.

    Youd be better off dropping half of the battery and getting more panels, provided you have the space for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Deagol


    SD_DRACULA wrote: »
    Is 6.8k for 4kw panels and 5kwh battery decent? That's after the 3k grant.

    As the Dr says - not terrible but probably a bit more could be haggled... I got 4kw panels plus 5kw solis hybrid plus 5kw battery for 7950 before grant).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Deagol wrote: »
    As the Dr says - not terrible but probably a bit more could be haggled... I got 4kw panels plus 5kw solis hybrid plus 5kw battery for 7950 before grant).

    That is the same quote I got for 4kw panels, 5kw solis inverter and no battery so it is very good.
    Assuming JA panels or equivalent and pylontec battery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Deagol


    SD_DRACULA wrote: »
    That is the same quote I got for 4kw panels, 5kw solis inverter and no battery so it is very good.
    Assuming JA panels or equivalent and pylontec battery?

    Qcell G8 split cell 340w panels. Puredrive battery. The Puredrives have 2x max power output compared to the pylontech so was happy to go with them as recommended by the installer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭BopperSnr


    I received the following quote, What do you folks think?

    I am more inclined to go for the 16 panels with the bigger inverter. I also have an EV in case that impacts anyone's advice.

    16 PANELS 340 WATT 5.44KW JA SOLAR 25 YEAR GUARANTEE.
    5.0 KW SOLIS INVERTER
    4.8 PYLON TEC. BATTERY.
    I BOAST WATER DIVERTER.
    WI FI DONGLE
    10500 EUROS INC. VAT. Minus 3000 euro Grant = 7500 Euros

    Or

    12 PANELS 340 WATT 4.08KW JA SOLAR 25 YEAR GUARANTEE
    3.6 KWSOLIS INVERTER
    4.8 PYLON TEC.BATTERY.
    IBOAST WATER DIVERTER.
    WIFI DONGLE
    9500 EUROS INC. VAT. Minus 3000 euro Grant = 6500 Euros

    Looks good to me but interested in what the group think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Cyloncity


    BopperSnr wrote: »
    I received the following quote, What do you folks think?

    I am more inclined to go for the 16 panels with the bigger inverter. I also have an EV in case that impacts anyone's advice.

    16 PANELS 340 WATT 5.44KW JA SOLAR 25 YEAR GUARANTEE.
    5.0 KW SOLIS INVERTER
    4.8 PYLON TEC. BATTERY.
    I BOAST WATER DIVERTER.
    WI FI DONGLE
    10500 EUROS INC. VAT. Minus 3000 euro Grant = 7500 Euros

    Or

    12 PANELS 340 WATT 4.08KW JA SOLAR 25 YEAR GUARANTEE
    3.6 KWSOLIS INVERTER
    4.8 PYLON TEC.BATTERY.
    IBOAST WATER DIVERTER.
    WIFI DONGLE
    9500 EUROS INC. VAT. Minus 3000 euro Grant = 6500 Euros

    Looks good to me but interested in what the group think?

    Well that's a lot better than I was doing. I got quoted 3k more for a similar option to your first but with no I boost and half size battery. Slightly more panel in my one but that offer is tempting to me.
    Still looking here and maybe the itch makes it look inviting and others will tell you that you can get better but I certainly wouldn't fell I was overpaying. But then I haven't spent anything. Yet!
    Ground or roof install?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭BopperSnr


    Cyloncity wrote: »
    Well that's a lot better than I was doing. I got quoted 3k more for a similar option to your first but with no I boost and half size battery. Slightly more panel in my one but that offer is tempting to me.
    Still looking here and maybe the itch makes it look inviting and others will tell you that you can get better but I certainly wouldn't fell I was overpaying. But then I haven't spent anything. Yet!
    Ground or roof install?
    It’s a roof install. I have a side dormer house so the roof has a quite a high slant/pitch. The panels will be split between both sides of the apex. The front of the house is south facing but since it’s a side dormer, the roof runs east to west , if you know what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Cyloncity


    BopperSnr wrote: »
    It’s a roof install. I have a dormer house so the roof has a quite a high slant/pitch. The panels will be split between both sides of the apex. The front of the house is south facing but since it’s a dormer, the roof runs east to west , if you know what I mean.

    Yes I think so. 8 each side?
    I tried that website for pricing up stuff yourself. Solartricity.
    Came to about 5k for what I was thinking of. So assuming installer pays approx 20 percent less, that's 4k spend on a 13k quote(before grant). They were taking care of grant! 9k for a day's work for maybe 3 or 4 lads.
    The more I write the more I realise how crazy my quote was!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭BopperSnr


    yes 8 panels on each side. I do think it sounds like i have a good quote that I should proceed with. Your quote sounds way too high now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Cyloncity


    BopperSnr wrote: »
    yes 8 panels on each side. I do think it sounds like i have a good quote that I should proceed with. Your quote sounds way too high now.

    I'd definitely be tempted but wait til others reply. You definitely don't want to be comparing to my mad quote.
    The first option seems better too. 4 extra panels and a bigger inverter for 1k seems good? However if you're directly e/w then maybe you only need the smaller inverter?
    Or when/if you need to replace it. The 3k Inverter would do?
    Actually does the battery size determine the inverter? So many questions.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭championc


    BopperSnr wrote: »
    yes 8 panels on each side. I do think it sounds like i have a good quote that I should proceed with. Your quote sounds way too high now.

    So are you looking at putting 8 panels facing North (if the ridge is East <-> West) ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭championc


    Cyloncity wrote: »
    I tried that website for pricing up stuff yourself. Solartricity.
    Came to about 5k for what I was thinking of. So assuming installer pays approx 20 percent less, that's 4k spend on a 13k quote(before grant). They were taking care of grant! 9k for a day's work for maybe 3 or 4 lads

    Hallalujah - someone is finally listening to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭BopperSnr


    I think I need to get my compass out. Just spoke to another installer and from looking at google maps, he doesn't recommend I put any panels on one side since its north east facing. I think he's right. it may be a waste of panels.
    Yup just checked on compass. 1 side of apex is north east and the other is south west.
    I guess no point putting any panels on the north east side , right?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    BopperSnr wrote: »
    I think I need to get my compass out. Just spoke to another installer and from looking at google maps, he doesn't recommend I put any panels on one side since its north east facing. I think he's right. it may be a waste of panels.
    Yup just checked on compass. 1 side of apex is north east and the other is south west.
    I guess no point putting any panels on the north east side , right?

    your gonna love this, It depends on the roof!

    I have 4.3 on a low slope NE and 4.3 on SW (its about 12 degrees)

    Currently the split is 55% from the SW, 45% from the NE of total output.

    BUT if you were on a normal pitch roof, the difference will be more.

    Try https://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvg_tools/en/#PVP (Azimuth [°] for NE is -135)

    put your proposed aspects of the solar arrays into that and you;ll see how much it compares to the SW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭championc


    BopperSnr wrote: »
    Yup just checked on compass. 1 side of apex is north east and the other is south west.
    I guess no point putting any panels on the north east side , right?

    Your initial post confirmed a high slant / pitch, so that will be a non-runner realistically. You could look now and see if your NE facing roof surface ever even gets any sunshine ?

    And is your SW facing flat surface butwern any dormer bits coming out from the flat surface, which can throw shading on any part of where you propose to install panels ? You want a clear, unobstructed, view of the southern sun, for as much of the day as possible


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I have 3.3kWp on a NE facing roof, this was my choice as the inverter could handle it and panels are relatively cheap.
    At this time of the year they are more productive until around 10:45am when my 4.1kWp SW facing panels take over, this will improve as the year moves towards center point I'd imagine.
    They really help on gloomy days as there is fek all difference on your panel aspect on a gloomy day.

    As a real term reference I generated 26kWh today, 31% came from the 8 NE panels and 69% came from the 10 SW panels...

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