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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2020

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭raytaxi


    I found them least pushy and no upselling that you need this or that. Price wise found them reasonable for base system, lot cheaper than a couple of other quotes i got with a lot more hard selling as well.
    Yes, that's them. Had a good chat with them, and no hard selling at all, which is appreciated. Not sure on the status of their installs, haven't got that far yet. Still 50:50 on whether to move forward or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    Could you please pm me their contact?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    Could you please pm me their contact?

    Sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭TheBigEvil


    Hi completely new to this, and have been reading through the thread to try and understand what I need to be looking at, and fair play to everyone there is a hell of a lot of info on here to take in as to what system suits.

    I'm going to be changing to an EV soon, and am currently looking at Home chargers, and as a result this has put the whole Solar PV stuff into my mind about being able to charge the car, at times, from solar. I'd probably be looking to a budget of between 4-6k net of grants to see what type of system I can get.

    I'll look to get 3 estimates and was wondering what companies people have used, and were happy with their installations, I'm based in Drogheda and garden is SE facing. I understand if its not right to mention company names in the thread, so would appreciate a PM from people who were happy with the company they used and if you want to share. what type of system you went with that would be awesome :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,196 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Pm sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Hi Maulbrook, please pm me the installer details mentioned in your post of March 20th. Thanks, David.

    PM sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭reni10


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Pm sent

    Could you please PM me also as I am in the same boat, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,196 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    reni10 wrote: »
    Could you please PM me also as I am in the same boat, thanks

    Will do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    Hi I have both about 5kW of solar panels installed, a Solis hybrid inverter and 5 Pylontech batteries, and very happy with the whole system. I also have an Electric Car - a Nissan Leaf. I am in Belturbet, Co Cavan.

    Interesting that you are looking at solar panels to help charge your car. Although of course you might choose to go with one of the new smart home chargers such as Zappi, about which I dont know much, I have not seen much on this Board or online about charging of EV cars from solar panels.

    You will know that the 'standard' home charger, the highest current you can get from a single phase domestic supply needs about 6kW or a little more of power. You will know that in Ireland from a system with 5kW peak of solar panels, you will typically get 1.5kW, 2.5 kW, maybe 3 or 4kW each for an hour or less on a typical day - I could give you actual figures and averages from my system. In other words, whatever 'medium speed' charger with a type 2 connector that you connect up to your car, it will be typically using 50% or 60% of power from your grid during the day to charge your car, and the sun will provide the other 40 to 50% - if you are lucky and of course depending on the weather. On the other hand, until last Summer, I had forgotten that I had a 'granny charger' supplied with my Nissan Leaf, and had never actually used it. BUT, this is ideal if what you want is to slowly charge your electric car, making max use of power available from the solar panels - I forget exactly, but it only draws 2.0 or 2.5kW - but if you only need to 'top up' your batteries from say 60% to 95% (on my Leaf) that granny charger, drawing from solar, would do that in 4 or 5 hours on many typical days in Cavan.

    Just food for thought!

    David


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Bit misleading David, the Zappi2 will take any excess from 1.4kW and put into your EV without any power from the Grid so you can just leave plugged in and let the Zappi2 work it's magic when there's excess available...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭TheBigEvil


    Hi I have both about 5kW of solar panels installed, a Solis hybrid inverter and 5 Pylontech batteries, and very happy with the whole system. I also have an Electric Car - a Nissan Leaf. I am in Belturbet, Co Cavan.

    Interesting that you are looking at solar panels to help charge your car. Although of course you might choose to go with one of the new smart home chargers such as Zappi, about which I dont know much, I have not seen much on this Board or online about charging of EV cars from solar panels.

    You will know that the 'standard' home charger, the highest current you can get from a single phase domestic supply needs about 6kW or a little more of power. You will know that in Ireland from a system with 5kW peak of solar panels, you will typically get 1.5kW, 2.5 kW, maybe 3 or 4kW each for an hour or less on a typical day - I could give you actual figures and averages from my system. In other words, whatever 'medium speed' charger with a type 2 connector that you connect up to your car, it will be typically using 50% or 60% of power from your grid during the day to charge your car, and the sun will provide the other 40 to 50% - if you are lucky and of course depending on the weather. On the other hand, until last Summer, I had forgotten that I had a 'granny charger' supplied with my Nissan Leaf, and had never actually used it. BUT, this is ideal if what you want is to slowly charge your electric car, making max use of power available from the solar panels - I forget exactly, but it only draws 2.0 or 2.5kW - but if you only need to 'top up' your batteries from say 60% to 95% (on my Leaf) that granny charger, drawing from solar, would do that in 4 or 5 hours on many typical days in Cavan.

    Just food for thought!

    David

    Thanks for the info David, very much appreciated. Yea there is a lot of info to digest and weigh up and decide what is the best system to install for the my budget. With some of the grants ending this year, and energy prices on the rise, it could be the time to get one installed.

    Regarding charging the EV from Solar, I actually had the Zappi in mind as I understand it can detect that Solar is available and use it instead of the grid. I hadn't even thought of using the granny cable and it using the solar that was being generated during the day :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭garo


    Yes get the Zappi if you want to charge from solar. It takes out the guesswork and you can set how much import you want to do from the grid from 0% to 100%. The Zappi will lower the charge rate down to 1.44kW if that's all the excess available. It will also stop charging the car when you say put the oven on and there is no PV excess.
    Two things to keep in mind:
    1) The car needs to be home during the day!
    2) If you get a battery as well, Zappi cannot tell whether it is drawing power from the battery or from solar PV directly. So occasionally your car will drain your PV battery if you are not careful. This can be managed via timers if your EV has them for charging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭daithihalton


    TheBigEvil wrote: »
    Hi completely new to this, and have been reading through the thread to try and understand what I need to be looking at, and fair play to everyone there is a hell of a lot of info on here to take in as to what system suits.

    I'm going to be changing to an EV soon, and am currently looking at Home chargers, and as a result this has put the whole Solar PV stuff into my mind about being able to charge the car, at times, from solar. I'd probably be looking to a budget of between 4-6k net of grants to see what type of system I can get.

    I'll look to get 3 estimates and was wondering what companies people have used, and were happy with their installations, I'm based in Drogheda and garden is SE facing. I understand if its not right to mention company names in the thread, so would appreciate a PM from people who were happy with the company they used and if you want to share. what type of system you went with that would be awesome :)

    I’m local to you and have recently had a PV system with Zappi installed if you want to see it working let me know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭Risteard81


    Deagol wrote: »
    Thanks for the information Paul.

    Once again, RECI have figured out how they can be make some money for their members. This has nothing to do with safety and all to do with greed and self interest. Despicable organization and I'll be talking to my 'elected representatives' at my next meeting with them about the renewal next year of safe electric.

    Worse, not only will this NOT make solar installs safer, it will drive people to DIY the systems. If doing it DIY is cheaper than getting it done via the grants system then people won't bother with the grant and just bypass the system?

    And, why would anyone try and install solar with the risk that they will get landed with a substantial bill to 'fix' other items? If it was me I certainly wouldn't bother - not worth the hassle.
    RECI were not responsible for this decision. They sought clarification from the NSAI TC2 (responsible for the Wiring Rules). TC2 stated that an inspection was required of the existing installation, and RECI were reporting this to RECs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭Risteard81


    slave1 wrote: »
    I agree it's a good starting place but are you sure about 20% "discount", also a private individual will need to pay 21% VAT versus an installer paying 13.5% VAT sticking to 2/3rds rule
    Standard rate went back up to 23% a number of weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    From the other comments it does sound like getting a Zappi is the way to go, but think it was worth mentioning slow charging with the granny plug as a low cost or interim alternative. When looking at the economics and the near future, dont forget that the Government have promised that all electricity suppliers will have to pay micro-generators, including domestic solar microgenerators, for electricity exported to them from July this year - problem is that will require a smart meter to be fitted in your housr which can record exports, and ESB have ceased their smart meter roll out because of Covid and will probably not even start again until July, but perhaps by the end of 2021 (when there will not be much sun) payments for exports will start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭idc


    ESB have ceased their smart meter roll out because of Covid and will probably not even start again until July


    Thats interesting as I had my meter switched from standard 24h meter to day/night meter during Covid even though my supplier had informed me that ESB Networks were not doing any meter changes. (originally told they'll contact you in a few days, follow up call give it a week or two and final call -- flat out no due to Level 5 no meter changes happening)



    Then randomly ESB van appears a week later (still in level 5 lockdown). Most meters are outside so its not like you need to interact with the ESB person (obviously if its indoors or behind a locked gate then for interaction required).



    So would hope that ESB networks will still be able to do ad hoc smart meter installs for all of us that want to be paid for our export!


  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How much (after grant) should one be looking at for an 18 panel array?

    18 panels
    Inverter
    5kW Battery
    Hot water diverter

    Looking at it my roof could take 36 panels but no way on earth could I afford that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,196 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Looking at it my roof could take 36 panels but no way on earth could I afford that.

    If you drop half of that battery you could probably get another 5 or 6 panels for the same price.


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  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    If you drop half of that battery you could probably get another 5 or 6 panels for the same price.


    Ha, what would be the price though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    How much (after grant) should one be looking at for an 18 panel array?

    18 panels
    Inverter
    5kW Battery
    Hot water diverter

    Looking at it my roof could take 36 panels but no way on earth could I afford that.
    I am getting a similar setup for €5300 after the grant but with 14 panels. So would imagine 18panels would be less than €6k


  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boscoirl wrote: »
    I am getting a similar setup for €5300 after the grant but with 14 panels. So would imagine 18panels would be less than €6k




    PM with installer please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    idc wrote: »
    Thats interesting as I had my meter switched from standard 24h meter to day/night meter during Covid even though my supplier had informed me that ESB Networks were not doing any meter changes. (originally told they'll contact you in a few days, follow up call give it a week or two and final call -- flat out no due to Level 5 no meter changes happening)



    Then randomly ESB van appears a week later (still in level 5 lockdown). Most meters are outside so its not like you need to interact with the ESB person (obviously if its indoors or behind a locked gate then for interaction required).



    So would hope that ESB networks will still be able to do ad hoc smart meter installs for all of us that want to be paid for our export!
    I read on the 'energyd' Ireland website "Be ready for Export Payments With a Smart Meter"....... "Just call ESB Networsk on 01 698 5005 as ask (sic) to be prioritized for your smart meter installation. Everybody will be getting a smart meter sooner or later but customers with solar panels can request to be sent to the top of the queue" It is interesting that I could not find any similar message on ESBs own website, they obviously want to keep that a secret. Anyway, I called that number, and spoke with a very helpful person who assured me that I was already registered for a priority smart meter install, and would first get a message 3 months in advance of installation, and then 2 weeks before installation from the team that would actually do the install, and all should be done before end of the year.

    The irony is that I already have a smart meter installed! - but the export function is not enabled. From the smart meter instructions, it appears that it would take an installer with the right IR Zapper about 2 minutes to activate the export function, no hardware or re-wiring needed. I called ESB over a year ago to ask them to do this, before COVID, and they said oh yes, we can get that done for you, it will just cost you Euros 350, pay that and we will have it done. Naturally I did not make the payment then,


  • Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where are you installing the batteries, inverters etc?
    Attic ?

    I'm itching to get some solar going but have a few other (expensive)projects to get out of the way.
    Might set up a "test rig"on the garage roof.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    I read on the 'energyd' Ireland website "Be ready for Export Payments With a Smart Meter"....... "Just call ESB Networsk on 01 698 5005 as ask (sic) to be prioritized for your smart meter installation. Everybody will be getting a smart meter sooner or later but customers with solar panels can request to be sent to the top of the queue" It is interesting that I could not find any similar message on ESBs own website, they obviously want to keep that a secret. Anyway, I called that number, and spoke with a very helpful person who assured me that I was already registered for a priority smart meter install, and would first get a message 3 months in advance of installation, and then 2 weeks before installation from the team that would actually do the install, and all should be done before end of the year.

    The irony is that I already have a smart meter installed! - but the export function is not enabled. From the smart meter instructions, it appears that it would take an installer with the right IR Zapper about 2 minutes to activate the export function, no hardware or re-wiring needed. I called ESB over a year ago to ask them to do this, before COVID, and they said oh yes, we can get that done for you, it will just cost you Euros 350, pay that and we will have it done. Naturally I did not make the payment then,

    Wouldn't have mattered anyway, the microgeneration scheme is closed for a long time, and it's July this year that there might be a feed in tariff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,196 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Where are you installing the batteries, inverters etc?
    Attic ?

    I'm itching to get some solar going but have a few other (expensive)projects to get out of the way.
    Might set up a "test rig"on the garage roof.

    Mine are in the attic for now. But if/when I eventually increase my capacity, I'll probably move the lot out to the garage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    My installer wanted to hide everything away from me in cupboard under the stairs etc, but I resisted, and I have both the inverter (I actually installed a second smaller one myself - so 2 inverters) and the batteries and switch gear all accessible, located under the electricty meter box inside my (heated) front porch, which is quite big. I like to be 'hands on' and have spent a fair amount of time 'tweaking' the system so that it performs as well as I think it can, and there is an awful lot of learning to be done with a Solis hybrid inverter - so I am very happy to have everything accessible, rather than having to crawl under the stairs or climb in to an attic. I dont think the installation looks bad either, but am sure not everyone would agree with me there. Test rig on the garage roof? is the roof flat?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I would not like an inverter put into a cupboard, it generates heat and needs to cool down, that's why it has such a large heatsink

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    Good point, and the installation instructions for my inverters have minimum distances specified that must be left empty above and below the inverter.


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