Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

FrancieBrady · 21-03-2021 1:46am

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Which part are you confused with?

We didn't know he had been 'asked to leak the document'. That is new info.
You claim I have 'moved goalposts' when I have said nothing different since this has broken.

Bubbaclaus · 21-03-2021 1:50am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We didn't know he had been 'asked to leak the document'. That is new info.
You claim I have 'moved goalposts' when I have said nothing different since this has broken.

We did know he was asked by O'Toole. We have known since 4 November when the screenshots of the conversation between Matt O'Toole and Simon Harris were released, where O'Toole asked him for a copy of the document.

No idea why you would claim that this isn't the case.

Going around in circles here. I've made the facts clear, some people just seem like they would prefer their own facts.

FrancieBrady · 21-03-2021 1:53am

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

We did know he was asked by O'Toole. We have known since 4 November when the screenshots of the conversation between Matt O'Toole and Simon Harris were released, where O'Toole asked him for a copy of the document.

No idea why you would claim that this isn't the case.

Going around in circles here. I've made the facts clear, some people just seem like they would prefer their own facts.

Did you miss the word 'also' in the article? He was 'also' asked by O'Toole.

Stop digging here Bubba, Harris has revealed new info.

Bubbaclaus · 21-03-2021 1:57am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Did you miss the word 'also' in the article? He was 'also' asked by O'Toole.

Stop digging here Bubba, Harris has revealed new info.

What do you think the 'also' means?

Pretty clear to me that it means he was also approached by O'Toole, as we knew, but you seem to have some other interpretation of it? I'm curious now as to what you think that is?

FrancieBrady · 21-03-2021 2:06am

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

What do you think the 'also' means?

Pretty clear to me that it means he was also approached by O'Toole, as we knew, but you seem to have some other interpretation of it? I'm curious now as to what you think that is?

Who else do you think asked him?

He was 'advised' that anything he said may arise in a court. He said he was asked to leak the doc, and that he was 'also' asked by O'Toole.

shtpEdthePlum · 21-03-2021 2:08am

This is absurd.

Anyone can see that this admission changes the situation. The deflection by several here is transparent. It indicates what will certainly be the last gasps of the boards.ie FG defence team.

Now that Harris has disclosed that he was indeed asked to leak the information and but refused to, it obviously shows that the then-health minister (who would have been the person with authority over this document) decided it couldn't go to O'Toole.

Leo gave the contract to Matt because they were friends and he was worried their union might turn against their party during the election. He used his position of privilege to curry favour with this buddy in spite of the fact that it undermined and directly threw Harris under the bus. It also conferred a more advantageous bargaining position to the rival doctors' union. It also boosted Leo's standing while sh!tting on Harris.

Harris wouldn't leak these documents. It's a huge development. It warrants discussion and no we should not "just let the gards do their job" because we're entitled to discuss proceedings when the former leader of the country is this crooked. It is very worrying that there is active suppression of the discourse here by certain users, what's the problem with talking about this major news story???

Bubbaclaus · 21-03-2021 2:09am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who else do you think asked him?

He was 'advised' that anything he said may arise in a court. He said he was asked to leak the doc, and that he was 'also' asked by O'Toole.

Wow. Certainly an interesting interpretation of that article from you Francie. No wonder you think there is new information in it. That's not how it reads at all though.

To me it is very clearly saying that he was also contacted by O'Toole, separate to Varadkar being contacted by O'Toole. As we knew.

I can see now why you were so confused with my posts though, certainly clears it up.

Suckit · 21-03-2021 2:26am

One thing for sure, 'old' news or not, when it is in the papers in the morning, it will get a whole new lease of life.
Despite what has been said over the last few months, this story doesn't look like it's going to go away, and all of the people with this newly acquired information will have to either support Leo or risk being called a homophobe or a racist..

Johnthemanager · 21-03-2021 2:28am

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

This story is not going away anytime soon.

But Leo might be!

skimpydoo · 21-03-2021 2:45am

What will it take for the FG and Leo supporters on here to realise that this is serious? Don't try and bring SF into this as its not about them but Leo and his wrongdoing which he has admitted to doing.

CruelSummer · 21-03-2021 9:04am

So it’s absolute gobsh*** Paddy Cosgrave that’s behind this story. How can people stand over this during a pandemic? Our country needs a stable Government right now and this is the priority of multi millionaire hypocrite Cosgrave.
An attack on Government over issues that happened before Covid.
And the Shinner cheerleaders here with all their own IRA, army council links cheerleading this like they’re upstanding law abiding citizens.

Irish Indepednent:
“Bowes was introduced to Village publisher Michael Smith by Web Summit founder Paddy Cosgrave, an outspoken critic of the Government. "He [Cosgrave] suggested to me that Village would be the place to run the story - and he was right because no one else wanted it," Bowes said, adding that Cosgrave was a friend whom he is working with on a number of health reform projects.”

Also Paddy Cosgrave:

“ Cosgrave criticised the Irish tax system, which was rejected as hypocrisy as Amaranthine, an investment fund set up by Cosgrave with other Web Summit founders, is based in California but registered in Delaware - an effective tax shelter.”

21-03-2021 9:12am

CruelSummer wrote: »

What will it take for Sinn Fein to put Ireland first for once, instead of getting into bed with Paddy Cosgrave to write smear stories about Varadkar who’s also been subject to death threats.
How could anyone vote for them - their priorities aren’t jobs, reopening the country, health of our citizens, the monumental task of getting Ireland out of the pandemic, it’s this.
There’s been an online hate campaign against Varadkar, separate to this issue which is shameful and could have led to the death threats.
SF should be careful getting into bed with Cosgrave, he’s a dangerous individual who throws his toys out of the pram very quickly if he thinks he won’t be running the SF government from the sidelines.

This thread is about Leo leaking documents, have you any comment on that topic

jackboy · 21-03-2021 9:18am

CruelSummer wrote: »

So it’s absolute gobsh*** Paddy Cosgrave that’s behind this story. How can people stand over this during a pandemic? Our country needs a stable Government right now and this is the priority of multi millionaire hypocrite Cosgrave.
An attack on Government over issues that happened before Covid.
And the Shinner cheerleaders here with all their own IRA, army council links cheerleading this like they’re upstanding law abiding citizens.

Irish Indepednent:
“Bowes was introduced to Village publisher Michael Smith by Web Summit founder Paddy Cosgrave, an outspoken critic of the Government. "He [Cosgrave] suggested to me that Village would be the place to run the story - and he was right because no one else wanted it," Bowes said, adding that Cosgrave was a friend whom he is working with on a number of health reform projects.”

Also Paddy Cosgrave:

“ Cosgrave criticised the Irish tax system, which was rejected as hypocrisy as Amaranthine, an investment fund set up by Cosgrave with other Web Summit founders, is based in California but registered in Delaware - an effective tax shelter.”

That’s all interesting but irrelevant. Was the leaking a criminal act or not? That’s all that matters.

Brendan Bendar · 21-03-2021 9:28am

jackboy wrote: »

That’s all interesting but irrelevant. Was the leaking a criminal act or not? That’s all that matters.

That’s what you’d like to think.

Lot of anger out there, a few slates being lifted and a light being shone into areas it’s obvious it was needed.

Some dangerous people hanging around.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 21-03-2021 9:31am

Jesus, are people that desperate for gossip that they're now jizzing the jocks over information that was in the original "story" from the village? Hopping up and down because a bellend like Paddy Cosgrave says it's a new development. Engage the brain lads...the DM between O'Toole and Harris was in the first story.

Just let the gardaí do their job. If it's such an open and shut case we'll no doubt see the DPP recommending charges. In the meantime you'll save yourselves having to wash new sets of Y-fronts if you stop following Paddy Cosgrave on twitter.

TenLeftFingers · 21-03-2021 9:34am

Good take off of Varadkar and Co in the latest Callans Kicks where he has his own podcast called Leo's Lense (or something). "I'm just an ordinary guy, like no other".

https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/callans-kicks/id632123130?i=1000513699805

Brendan Bendar · 21-03-2021 9:43am

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Jesus, are people that desperate for gossip that they're now jizzing the jocks over information that was in the original "story" from the village? Hopping up and down because a bellend like Paddy Cosgrave says it's a new development. Engage the brain lads...the DM between O'Toole and Harris was in the first story.

Just let the gardaí do their job. If it's such an open and shut case we'll no doubt see the DPP recommending charges. In the meantime you'll save yourselves having to wash new sets of Y-fronts if you stop following Paddy Cosgrave on twitter.

Good call Paddy, on the button.

There’s a coterie out there who have latched on to Varadkar as someone to be ‘taken down’ and are slowly emerging from under their slates.

Instead of helping the country in a positive and constructive way these bells
are pumping out their own agenda and once that keeps them in the limelight they don’t give a toss about the country, and will walk away when when they have done their dirty work.

Wake up folk.

Rows Grower · 21-03-2021 9:46am

So Leo asked Harris to give a copy of the confidential document to his friend the head union lad and Harris refused?

Then Leo, Mr. Smug, simply makes a copy and sends it to his chum via taxi.

There's no way that man can be trusted in public office.

jackboy · 21-03-2021 9:52am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Good call Paddy, on the button.

There’s a coterie out there who have latched on to Varadkar as someone to be ‘taken down’ and are slowly emerging from under their slates.

Instead of helping the country in a positive and constructive way these bells
are pumping out their own agenda and once that keeps them in the limelight they don’t give a toss about the country, and will walk away when when they have done their dirty work.

Wake up folk.

Again irrelevant. Was it a criminal act or not? There is no point focusing on the messengers, no matter their motivation.

McMurphy · 21-03-2021 9:56am

CruelSummer wrote: »

So it’s absolute gobsh*** Paddy Cosgrave that’s behind this story.

No. Paddy Cosgraves tweet just happened to be the first tweet I found with a picture of the front of the mail on Sunday, to suggest he's "behind the story" because he tweeted an article is complete and utter nonsense and highly dishonest.

The rest of your long winded whataboutery is also irrelevant, and you've been told this each time you appear in the thread to suggest laws and ethics should be suspended because of the pandemic*.

*Speaking of which, I see month later and Leo hasn't given Roisin Shorthall a response on the dodgy ventilators, apparently "events manager" quirke had a political contact personally involved in helping him secure the deal.

Was it Leo?

https://twitter.com/nwl88444048/status/1373326139909935104?s=19

Brendan Bendar · 21-03-2021 9:59am

jackboy wrote: »

Again irrelevant. Was it a criminal act or not? There is no point focusing on the messengers, no matter their motivation.

The thread title is ‘Leo Varadkar Story in the Village’ last I looked.

Therefore all the components of that title are relevant.

Motivation on all sides is very important in these issues.

Leave the legal stuff to the legal eagles I would suggest.

CruelSummer · 21-03-2021 10:01am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This thread is about Leo leaking documents, have you any comment on that topic

My posts are all in relation to who is behind this hate campaign against him. It had to be someone with money, Paddy Cosgrave. Have you any comment on that?

Bubbaclaus · 21-03-2021 10:02am

Rows Grower wrote: »

So Leo asked Harris to give a copy of the confidential document to his friend the head union lad and Harris refused?

Then Leo, Mr. Smug, simply makes a copy and sends it to his chum via taxi.

There's no way that man can be trusted in public office.

Source? Does it say it on the next page or something, because the first page of the paper doesn't say that.

McMurphy · 21-03-2021 10:06am

CruelSummer wrote: »

My posts are all in relation to who is behind this hate campaign against him. It had to be someone with money, Paddy Cosgrave. Have you any comment on that?

Japers, that was some jump.

It's not like we don't know exactly who's behind the story, he's hardly hidden behind the fact hardly takes inspector clueso to point out the holes in your theory.

https://twitter.com/BowesChay/status/1372137366060683273?s=19

CruelSummer · 21-03-2021 10:09am

McMurphy wrote: »

No. Paddy Cosgraves tweet just happened to be the first tweet I found with a picture of the front of the mail on Sunday, to suggest he's "behind the story" because he tweeted an article is complete and utter nonsense and highly dishonest.

The rest of your long winded whataboutery is also irrelevant, sang you've been told this each time you appear in the thread to suggest laws and ethics should be suspended because of the pandemic*.

*Speaking of which, I see 3 months later and Leo hasn't given Roisin Shorthall a response on the dodgy ventilators, apparently "events manager" quirke had a political contact personally involved in helping him secure the deal.

Was it Leo?

https://twitter.com/nwl88444048/status/1373326139909935104?s=19

Not true, word for word the Irish Independent have the quote that it was Cosgrave who’s a ‘close friend’ of Chay Bowes that set it all up with the Village. You’re actually spouting lies, nonsense and trying to deflect.
The fact that someone like Cosgrave is behind this, and wants to destabilise our country at this time with so much anger & dissent out there re the restrictions is a disgrace.
He does not have your interests on his mind, he has his.

McMurphy · 21-03-2021 10:19am

CruelSummer wrote: »

Not true, word for word the Irish Independent have the quote that it was Cosgrave who’s a ‘close friend’ of Chay Bowes that set it all up with the Village. You’re actually spouting lies, nonsense and trying to deflect.
The fact that someone like Cosgrave is behind this, and wants to destabilise our country at this time with so much anger & dissent out there re the restrictions is a disgrace.
He does not have your interests on his mind, he has his.

What's not true?

Are you saying Chay Bowes isn't the one who blew the whistle on this, because of zero craic bragging?

What else do you think the Gardai should turn a blind eye to because of the pandemic while we're on the subject?

Rows Grower · 21-03-2021 10:20am

CruelSummer wrote: »

Not true, word for word the Irish Independent have the quote that it was Cosgrave who’s a ‘close friend’ of Chay Bowes that set it all up with the Village. You’re actually spouting lies, nonsense and trying to deflect.
The fact that someone like Cosgrave is behind this, and wants to destabilise our country at this time with so much anger & dissent out there re the restrictions is a disgrace.
He does not have your interests on his mind, he has his.

Forget about Paddy Cosgrave, you don't shoot the messenger.

It's in every citizens interest that we do not have a criminal in government.

suicide_circus · 21-03-2021 10:32am

Rows Grower wrote: »

Forget about Paddy Cosgrave, you don't shoot the messenger.

It's in every citizens interest that we do not have a criminal in government.

Alleged?

jackboy · 21-03-2021 10:35am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

The thread title is ‘Leo Varadkar Story in the Village’ last I looked.

Therefore all the components of that title are relevant.

Motivation on all sides is very important in these issues.

Leave the legal stuff to the legal eagles I would suggest.

Motivation of the messengers is only important if the allegations are untrue. As the guards are proceeding with the investigation then they believe that there may be something in it.

is_that_so · 21-03-2021 10:39am

jackboy wrote: »

Motivation of the messengers is only important if the allegations are untrue. As the guards are proceeding with the investigation then they believe that there may be something in it.

Investigations proceed to determine if there may be something to them. It's not unusual for them to halt. Getting to the DPP and the DPP concluding it is worth bringing a case will show there may be something to it.

jackboy · 21-03-2021 10:45am

is_that_so wrote: »

Investigations proceed to determine if there may be something to them. It's not unusual for them to halt. Getting to the DPP and the DPP concluding it is worth bringing a case will show there may be something to it.

True but it is gas that some people here are ignoring the investigation and trying to claim that paddy cosgrove is trying to destabilise the country. We are talking real conspiracy theory stuff in support of Leo.

golfball37 · 21-03-2021 10:47am

Read the article in print edition. Gardai are seriously peeved about Varadkar going on Pat Kenny and laying out events as he sees it and stressing he did nothing illegal. He especially should not be commenting on it.

RandomName2 · 21-03-2021 10:50am

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

This is absurd.

Anyone can see that this admission changes the situation. The deflection by several here is transparent. It indicates what will certainly be the last gasps of the boards.ie FG defence team.

I don't bat for any of the three government parties.

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

Now that Harris has disclosed that he was indeed asked to leak the information and but refused to, it obviously shows that the then-health minister (who would have been the person with authority over this document) decided it couldn't go to O'Toole.

That is true, but is not much of a revelation. The GP union (NAGP) had been loudly, and very publicly, calling for the information on Twitter, so the fact that they directly asked Harris should not come as a surprise. Furthermore, Harris may have felt he would require his boss' imprimatur to provide such information: after all the GP union had been blocked from receiving the information because of Varadkar's policy in relation to medical cards. Finally this doesn't imply illegality. It is quite clear that despite vacating the office of minister of health, that Varadkar wanted to mini-manage it. I also feel that he didn't treat Harris with a huge amount of respect in his capacity as Health minister. One might cynically wonder if the very young, inexperienced Harris was given the ministry well known to be a poisoned chalice to be a patsy of sorts.

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

Leo gave the contract to Matt because they were friends and he was worried their union might turn against their party during the election.

The union was already very clearly opposed to the government.

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

It also conferred a more advantageous bargaining position to the rival doctors' union.

No it didn't. NAGP was frozen out of negotiations. The deal with the IMO was in no jeopardy. NAGP had already had the legs cut from underneath them and were on the verge of going under (they only lasted another two months before their crippling debt destroyed them).

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

It also boosted Leo's standing while sh!tting on Harris.

No doubt.

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

what's the problem with talking about this major news story???

Well at least this is a news story. It's not a particularly revealing one, but at least it isn't inane discourse about how one can measure Leo's friendliness, or using inaccurate analysis in relation to precedents set for resignation, which together must account for about 80 pages of content in this thread.

Brendan Bendar · 21-03-2021 10:51am

jackboy wrote: »

Motivation of the messengers is only important if the allegations are untrue. As the guards are proceeding with the investigation then they believe that there may be something in it.

Do they?

golfball37 · 21-03-2021 10:51am

jackboy wrote: »

True but it is gas that some people here are ignoring the investigation and trying to claim that paddy cosgrove is trying to destabilise the country. We are talking real conspiracy theory stuff in support of Leo.

The same was said of Maurice McCabe shur and official Ireland tried to paint him as the worst kind of offender, one that interferes with children. At least Paddy will be ok.

I don’t understand those who say this is interfering with the govt important work. They should not have someone who cannot be trusted at the he cabinet table. Put someone else in as Tanaiste and continue the important work. If they have tied Varadkars future to that of the government then that’s on them. The work isn’t as important as one man obviously.

is_that_so · 21-03-2021 10:53am

jackboy wrote: »

True but it is gas that some people here are ignoring the investigation and trying to claim that paddy cosgrove is trying to destabilise the country. We are talking real conspiracy theory stuff in support of Leo.

Cosgrave is like a boil but nowhere near as smart as he or anyone else imagines. It'll eventually be resolved as it should be, through the mechanism of the legal system , certainly not on the airwaves nor in print.

Brendan Bendar · 21-03-2021 10:56am

SIPO seem quite busy these days, hope it doesn’t it doesn’t lead to delays in the justice system.

I’m getting quite irked by all these happenings.

is_that_so · 21-03-2021 10:58am

golfball37 wrote: »

The same was said of Maurice McCabe shur and official Ireland tried to paint him as the worst kind of offender, one that interferes with children. At least Paddy will be ok.

I don’t understand those who say this is interfering with the govt important work. They should not have someone who cannot be trusted at the he cabinet table. Put someone else in as Tanaiste and continue the important work. If they have tied Varadkars future to that of the government then that’s on them. The work isn’t as important as one man obviously.

The McCabe situation was more complex than that and he got wrongly linked to something by Tusla, which followed him like a bad smell and undermined any credibility he might have had. You can't really bench Varadkar unless they get to a point where a legal case is pending. If that happens FG will probably vote to replace him anyway.

RandomName2 · 21-03-2021 10:59am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

That’s what you’d like to think.

Lot of anger out there, a few slates being lifted and a light being shone into areas it’s obvious it was needed.

So do you have anything to say about the local healthcare GP provision? I'm waiting for someone to actually talk about the item in question. Are you a former NAGP angry at the government?

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Some dangerous people hanging around.

'Slab Murphy' dangerous, or 'Maria Bailey' dangerous? Just how worried should we be?

Beasty · 21-03-2021 11:08am

This thread is about Varadkar. Take all discussion of political parties to the relevant threads

shtpEdthePlum · 21-03-2021 11:25am

RandomName2 wrote: »

I don't bat for any of the three government parties.

Yet you feel personally obliged to dissect my post.

That is true, but is not much of a revelation. The GP union (NAGP) had been loudly, and very publicly, calling for the information on Twitter, so the fact that they directly asked Harris should not come as a surprise.

Great, so there's no doubt that they directly benefitted from Leo leaking it to them. That's one of the requirements for corruption in office.

Furthermore, Harris may have felt he would require his boss' imprimatur to provide such information: after all the GP union had been blocked from receiving the information because of Varadkar's policy in relation to medical cards. Finally this doesn't imply illegality.

You're omitting the fact that Harris was requesting a copy of it himself at the time. He hadn't even cleared that version of it and he was the bleedin health minister.

It is quite clear that despite vacating the office of minister of health, that Varadkar wanted to mini-manage it. I also feel that he didn't treat Harris with a huge amount of respect in his capacity as Health minister. One might cynically wonder if the very young, inexperienced Harris was given the ministry well known to be a poisoned chalice to be a patsy of sorts.

That seems like exactly what happened. Micro-managing isn't a crime but going behind the backs of those making up your ministry, providing confidential information for personal gain... The fact that he did this will likely be the determining factor in this case.

The union was already very clearly opposed to the government.

So there's even less doubt about his motivations for leaking this.

No it didn't. NAGP was frozen out of negotiations.

By whom? Not by Varadkar seemingly.

The deal with the IMO was in no jeopardy. NAGP had already had the legs cut from underneath them and were on the verge of going under (they only lasted another two months before their crippling debt destroyed them).

You're right, but at the time they seemed pretty happy about getting this on the WhatsApp group.

Well at least this is a news story. It's not a particularly revealing one, but at least it isn't inane discourse about how one can measure Leo's friendliness, or using inaccurate analysis in relation to precedents set for resignation, which together must account for about 80 pages of content in this thread.

Agreed. I didn't contribute to any of that because I felt that it was more transparent distraction tactics by Leo supporters and felt it would be a waste of my time.

CruelSummer wrote: »

My posts are all in relation to who is behind this hate campaign against him. It had to be someone with money, Paddy Cosgrave. Have you any comment on that?

Now there's an irrelevant and completely unfounded claim.

Imagine if those of us who are glad to see this corrupt arsehole smeared came out with something that spurious. The FG 4 would be all over us like a bad rash.

Dempo1 · 21-03-2021 11:29am

Quite a disturbing development this morning, the Indo reporting Leo to get 24 hour armed protection, relates to odious threats coming from the North. Whatever one's feelings on this story, this behaviour needs to be condemned.

Jinglejangle69 · 21-03-2021 11:43am

Dempo1 wrote: »

Quite a disturbing development this morning, the Indo reporting Leo to get 24 hour armed protection, relates to odious threats coming from the North. Whatever one's feelings on this story, this behaviour needs to be condemned.

I've a feeling he will quit politics.

There comes a point when enough is enough.

Johnthemanager · 21-03-2021 11:44am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I've a feeling he will quit politics.

There comes a point when enough is enough.

Is there ever enough corruption for these guys? I mean Michael lowry was the man he went to when he needed votes for Taoiseach!

Jinglejangle69 · 21-03-2021 11:45am

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Is there ever enough corruption for these guys? I mean Michael lowry was the man he went to when he needed votes for Taoiseach!

Enough that he's getting death threats from loyalists.

Don't worry he will be gone soon probably and you can sleep easy.

Johnthemanager · 21-03-2021 11:46am

Dempo1 wrote: »

Quite a disturbing development this morning, the Indo reporting Leo to get 24 hour armed protection, relates to odious threats coming from the North. Whatever one's feelings on this story, this behaviour needs to be condemned.

Loyalists threatening him. Remember though that Regina Doherty said that victims of loyalists brought it on themselves?

Jinglejangle69 · 21-03-2021 11:47am

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Loyalists threatening him. Remember though that Regina Doherty said that victims of loyalists brought it on themselves?

Regina??

This thread is about Leo.

Johnthemanager · 21-03-2021 11:47am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Enough that he's getting death threats from loyalists.

Don't worry he will be gone soon probably and you can sleep easy.

Regina Doherty said victims of loyalists brought it on themselves! She really is despicable to come out with a statement like that!

Jinglejangle69 · 21-03-2021 11:48am

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Regina Doherty said victims of loyalists brought it on themselves! She really is despicable to come out with a statement like that!

Didn't see that. When was it?

jackboy · 21-03-2021 11:50am

So now we have moved on from paddy cosgrove to loyalists as a distraction to Leo leaking the document.

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