Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

jmcc · 18-03-2021 03:42PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG party dont want Coveney, they'll give it to Josepha or Heather,

The FG grassroots voted for Coveney. The FG Oireachtas gang were too busy virtue signalling to the Wokus Dei morons in the media and picked Varadkar. What a success that turned out to be. Madigan and Humphreys seem like a low-rent Thelma and Louise and would drive FG over the cliff into complete irrelevance.

Regards...jmcc

Suckit · 18-03-2021 03:47PM

That was a choice that they will be feeling the effects of for years to come.
It couldn't be Helen. Even her local constituency couldn't vote her in as party leader surely.

markodaly · 18-03-2021 03:59PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Nobody ever claimed there was a 'right'.

You guys keep inventing things that are said.

So what is the overall point?
SF got more votes in the 2020 GE then anyone else....
And?

jmcc · 18-03-2021 04:01PM

markodaly wrote: »

So what is the overall point?
SF got more votes in the 2020 GE then anyone else....
And?

It beat FG. So, in the immortal words of your betters, know your place. (As a third place political party led by a fourth rate leader)

Regards...jmcc

markodaly · 18-03-2021 04:03PM

golfball37 wrote: »

That’s not accurate either. Coalition is defined by more than one grouping represented in cabinet . Pretty sure we had a Haughey govt that was propped up by Tony Gregory and few indos for voting purposes. Not that it matters coalitions are here for eternity

It was a minority FF government ironically voted in by Sinn Fein - The Workers Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_23rd_D%C3%A1il

markodaly · 18-03-2021 04:03PM

jmcc wrote: »

It beat FG. So, in the immortal words of your betters, know your place. (As a third place political party led by a fourth rate leader)

Regards...jmcc

Yet, still in government....

Its like a football team bragging about how many corners it won when the opposing team is walking off the pitch with the Trophy.

jmcc · 18-03-2021 04:09PM

markodaly wrote: »

Yet, still in government....

*Mod Snip - no need for this* Your dear leader led your party to one of its worst defeats ever and still wanted to commemorate the Black and Tans.

Regards...jmcc

markodaly · 18-03-2021 04:14PM

jmcc wrote: »

*Mod Snip - no need for this* Your dear leader led your party to one of its worst defeats ever and still wanted to commemorate the Black and Tans.

Regards...jmcc

An odd reply I must say.... and slightly vulger.

Muahahaha · 18-03-2021 04:15PM

markodaly wrote: »

So what is the overall point?
SF got more votes in the 2020 GE then anyone else....
And?

And SF out polled FG in every single age category from 18-65. Plus they out polled them in the ABC1 category meaning the very wealthiest in society preferred SF over FG. Thats what you get for messing up the housing market, when the kids of wealthy people cant afford housing theres going to be a backlash. Sure even a TD on 100k a year is complaining he cant afford a gaff in Dublin which says it all, what hope is there for the vast majority who are not on 100k? They're screwed under Fine Gael, thats what.

They're extraordinarily worrying statistics for the party of Law and Order who now have their leader under a Garda investigation, something which has never happened before. A huge section of society rejected Fine Gael yet ended up with them anyway. The next election will be very interesting indeed and especially as Fine Gael have not learned any lessons from the last one, their arrogance is still there front and centre.

McMurphy · 18-03-2021 04:15PM

markodaly wrote: »

It was a minority FF government ironically voted in by Sinn Fein - The Workers Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_23rd_D%C3%A1il

This is interesting......

Didn't the workers party (Sinn Fein according to you) evolve into the democratic left?

This would be the same democratic left who coalesced with John Brutons FG?

This obviously being the same Democratic Left that was then led by Proinsias De Rossa

Very colourful character.

Soon after his sixteenth birthday, in May 1956, he joined the Irish Republican Army (IRA),and was politically active in Sinn Féin from an early age. During the IRA Border Campaign, he was arrested while training other IRA members in Glencree in May 1956. He served seven months in Mountjoy Prison and was then interned at the Curragh Camp.

Look here he is with John and Dick.

jmcc · 18-03-2021 04:16PM

markodaly wrote: »

An odd reply I must say.... and slightly vulger.

The word is 'vulgar'. It does show how low FG standards have fallen.

It can't even get good help these days.

Regards...jmcc

FrancieBrady · 18-03-2021 04:28PM

markodaly wrote: »

So what is the overall point?
SF got more votes in the 2020 GE then anyone else....
And?

The convention is that the party that secures the most votes 'wins' the election. A convention evidenced here for instance:

Pat Leahy: Fine Gael needs to stage a comeback to win election

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/pat-leahy-fine-gael-needs-to-stage-a-comeback-to-win-election-1.4147090?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fpat-leahy-fine-gael-needs-to-stage-a-comeback-to-win-election-1.4147090

Typically when SF say they 'won' the election that convention goes out the window.

Similar to the fiasco on the other thread where the 'leader of the opposition' claim is portrayed as a SF thing when in fact other party leaders have used the term too.

It's one rule for SF but not others.

ohnonotgmail · 18-03-2021 04:39PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The convention is that the party that secures the most votes 'wins' the election. A convention evidenced here for instance:

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/pat-leahy-fine-gael-needs-to-stage-a-comeback-to-win-election-1.4147090?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fpat-leahy-fine-gael-needs-to-stage-a-comeback-to-win-election-1.4147090

Typically when SF say they 'won' the election that convention goes out the window. Similar to the fiasco on the other thread where the 'leader of the opposition' claim is portrayed as a SF thing when in fact other party leaders have used the term too.

It's one rule for SF but not others.

did someone really say something that stupid? unbelievable.

James Brown · 18-03-2021 05:51PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

did someone really say something that stupid? unbelievable.

Since it came to light Varadkar said same they are back peddling on it, but yes.

its_steve116 · 18-03-2021 06:39PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

They went with youth with Varadkar ,cost them too many oldies, middle aged woman to be next FG leader

Heather Humphries is your best bet.

RandomViewer · 18-03-2021 07:01PM

its_steve116 wrote: »

Heather Humphries is your best bet.

Ticks the boxes, female, minority but also Conservative and rural

McMurphy · 18-03-2021 07:03PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Ticks the boxes, female, minority but also Conservative and rural

There's also that animal cruelty letter thing too......

RandomViewer · 18-03-2021 07:35PM

McMurphy wrote: »

There's also that animal cruelty letter thing too......

Conservative and rural

McMurphy · 18-03-2021 08:10PM

Martin Heydon challenging Maria Bailey for the most cringe radio interview ever.

I thought he was going to cry on a number of occasions.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/?s=08#/radio1/21924573

golfball37 · 18-03-2021 08:18PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Martin Heydon challenging Maria Bailey for the most cringe radio interview ever.

I thought he was going to cry on a number of occasions.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/?s=08#/radio1/21924573

No wonder Sarah was overlooked for Davy spokeswoman Claire Byrne. She doesn’t buy into crap being spouted no matter what side they are on

McMurphy · 18-03-2021 08:20PM

golfball37 wrote: »

No wonder Sarah was overlooked for Davy spokeswoman Claire Byrne. She doesn’t buy into crap being spouted no matter what side they are on

She's an excellent moderator to be fair. Takes absolutely no BS.

Rows Grower · 18-03-2021 08:37PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Martin Heydon challenging Maria Bailey for the most cringe radio interview ever.

I thought he was going to cry on a number of occasions.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/?s=08#/radio1/21924573

Ah Jesus, listening to that is akin to watching a car crash in slow motion. Like a few of the regular Leo fans on this thread that lad is doing no one any favours.

I actually feel sorry for some of the old good stock in Fine Gael after cringing my way through that. Once upon a time Fine Gael actually had good politicians, it just seems so long ago.

golfball37 · 18-03-2021 09:01PM

Rows Grower wrote: »

Ah Jesus, listening to that is akin to watching a car crash in slow motion. Like a few of the regular Leo fans on this thread that lad is doing no one any favours.

I actually feel sorry for some of the old good stock in Fine Gael after cringing my way through that. Once upon a time Fine Gael actually had good politicians, it just seems so long ago.

Richard Bruton and Pascal are decent sorts in fairness. Both have integrity at least. I don’t mind Coveney or McEntee either. The latter was thrown a hospital pass re the Woulfe appointment so I don’t blame her for it, or for coming clean about the stroke behind it.

Larbre34 · 18-03-2021 09:03PM

Heydon is useless at the best of times.

He's a vote getter, but they could run a sheep in his neck of the woods with an FG badge and he'd still get in.

Party chairman is the job you give a big vote getter when you don't want them to do harm to the Country.

Rows Grower · 18-03-2021 09:44PM

golfball37 wrote: »

Richard Bruton and Pascal are decent sorts in fairness. Both have integrity at least. I don’t mind Coveney or McEntee either. The latter was thrown a hospital pass re the Woulfe appointment so I don’t blame her for it, or for coming clean about the stroke behind it.

I was at a meeting with Richard Bruton in his Dail office many moons ago when he was Minister for Enterprise and Employment and he came across as an honest hardworking guy to me. They had many other good people through out the years who must be really disappointed to witness this carry on.

Simon Coveney is well able for whatever task he is given and doesn't seek the limelight. Simon Harris really impressed me with his work ethic when we were under pressure and in fear as a nation during the first lock down and there are other good TD's and councillors too but it can't be easy for them.

Whoever that fella on the radio there was he was so scripted it was like a satirical sketch. I'm mortified for him.

James Brown · 18-03-2021 09:52PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Martin Heydon challenging Maria Bailey for the most cringe radio interview ever.

I thought he was going to cry on a number of occasions.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/?s=08#/radio1/21924573

Such waffle. He's even half laughing when he's picked up on it.

Seems the FG line on and off Boards.ie is to make a claim about someone and when called out on it say it was your understanding. Pretty slick.

Great at 5mins in where she says she doesn't know why he keeps bringing it back to Sinn Fein, it's the issue of the Tánaiste being under criminal investigation

"If it was so available why couldn't the minister for health get a copy?" Classic.

BackOfMyBag · 18-03-2021 09:55PM

listened to that martin heydon interview today in work via podcast, ireland really has its fair share of idiot political representatives and he is a excellent example of why certain types should be kept away from microphones .....i wonder if he is implicated in the whole affair ? he certainly sounded a bit shakey at certain times !!!!
you can say what you want about kenny but none of this nonsense would have went on during his spell in power !!

how did so few young excuses for politicians destroy finegael the party are an embarrassment at this stage, ff arent much better though .

McMurphy · 18-03-2021 10:19PM

James Brown wrote: »

Such waffle. He's even half laughing when he's picked up on it.

Seems the FG line on and off Boards.ie is to make a claim about someone and when called out on it say it was your understanding. Pretty slick.

Great at 5mins in where she says she doesn't know why he keeps bringing it back to Sinn Fein, it's the issue of the Tánaiste being under criminal investigation

"If it was so available why couldn't the minister for health get a copy?" Classic.

You'd have to wonder on what planet Heydon, or any other figure in FG believed he "did well" in that interview, McInerney didn't let him steer the conversation up a street it didn't belong to be fair.

They're in trouble with this one I think, long runs the Fox, but snared at last!

If Leo is finally charged with this, I wonder will other state contract's be re-examined?

Was Leo really unlucky enough to get snared the first and only time he did this?

RandomViewer · 18-03-2021 10:25PM

BackOfMyBag wrote: »

listened to that martin heydon interview today in work via podcast, ireland really has its fair share of idiot political representatives and he is a excellent example of why certain types should be kept away from microphones .....i wonder if he is implicated in the whole affair ? he certainly sounded a bit shakey at certain times !!!!
you can say what you want about kenny but none of this nonsense would have went on during his spell in power !!

how did so few young excuses for politicians destroy finegael the party are an embarrassment at this stage, ff arent much better though .

Probably not running again under the FF/FG vote pact,

James Brown · 18-03-2021 11:02PM

McMurphy wrote: »

You'd have to wonder on what planet Heydon, or any other figure in FG believed he "did well" in that interview, McInerney didn't let him steer the conversation up a street it didn't belong to be fair.

They're in trouble with this one I think, long runs the Fox, but snared at last!

If Leo is finally charged with this, I wonder will other state contract's be re-examined?

Was Leo really unlucky enough to get snared the first and only time he did this?

We know FG look after their own. We still await the conclusion of the Siteserv investigation also I believe Noonan's other sweet deal up north is still being investigated outside the state.
We've Varadkar trying to do a solid for Trump and leaking the confidential document to his pal, so there's a good chance he's other skeletons.

Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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