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Is anyone else starting to become a bit excited?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dor83


    You are perfectly right there, but based only on that we can make loads of money in short term from the marketing campaign.
    But what if their long term plan for XGG is mush more than what you've explained there? Because they haven't set out a tokenomics article yet...we have to wait and see.

    I agree that it could be very profitable and think the general idea is good, people love to win money and gambling is hugely profitable. I also can see the token gaining value from where it is now, I can also see it crashing and burning at some point though so it'd be about getting out at the right time and that's not worth the risk for me.

    My problem with it is that I don't see a need for the token at all, they could do it without the token and take even 0.5% for themselves and still make a killing without any need for a token at all, I just can't see any real use for the token at all other than a way for them to profit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ConstantinL


    Graham wrote: »
    I guess that's the other element that makes me slightly cautious. There's not much information about $DMST outside of what the promoters have published. The market cap of $DMST is $4.1M or 73 BTC which doesn't really demonstrate an established track record from what I can make out.

    None of this should be read as me bashing either DMST or XGG, there's nothing to suggest there's anything wrong but to my mind it would be a long-shot punt at this stage.

    Keep in mind that DMScript has yet to establish their position on the market (only about 6 months old). Also, the use of the DMST token has a different utility than XGG, so a comparison between their performance wouldn't be accurate.

    Have found more info about both DMScrupt and XGG here:

    https://morioh.com/p/cc710f1d39d4

    https://esportsinsider.com/2020/09/og-dmscript/

    https://oltnews.com/og-partners-with-blockchain-tech-company-dmscript-the-esports-observer-%EF%BD%9C-home-for-essential-esports-business-news-and-information-teo-the-esports-observer

    https://cointelegraph.com/news/og-partners-with-blockchain-based-gaming-technology-company



    An interview here: https://cryptoguerrillas.com/dmscript-ama-recap/

    And after 6pm I'll tell you more about their beta ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ConstantinL


    dor83 wrote: »
    I agree that it could be very profitable and think the general idea is good, people love to win money and gambling is hugely profitable. I also can see the token gaining value from where it is now, I can also see it crashing and burning at some point though so it'd be about getting out at the right time and that's not worth the risk for me.

    My problem with it is that I don't see a need for the token at all, they could do it without the token and take even 0.5% for themselves and still make a killing without any need for a token at all, I just can't see any real use for the token at all other than a way for them to profit.

    In my opinion, they make profit either way, as you said, if we view it from this angle then the token would be useless.
    But , consider that only 200mil tokens are in circulation, the other 800mil are locked in liquidity. Most of the circulating tokens will be bought in no time at current prices (only I have almost 1 mil). This being said the logic tells me that some of the token holders will stake their tokens, others will use them in the XGG pool to pay their lottery, others will use them for the other pools, so a continuous usage. If we can agree that over time more and more people will be staking the token and that the company will hold the tokens which they get through that buy-back program, that will give rise to scarcity (economic scenario)...this leading to a higher price for the remaining tokens that are in circulation.
    Now let's have a look at another scenario, currently XGG can be bought only on Uniswap and Bilaxy, what if, and it will, be listed on a bigger exchange, let's say Bitforex at least, if not even Kraken or at a later date Binance...

    how the price of the token be reflected after considering these two scenarios?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Keep in mind that DMScript has yet to establish their position on the market (only about 6 months old).

    That was partly my point.

    Thanks, that's pretty much all I could find earlier. The morioh piece looks like a rehash of the companies own medium articles, the other 3 news pieces all relate to that one partnership with OG Sports.

    Now let's have a look at another scenario, currently XGG can be bought only on Uniswap and Bilaxy, what if, and it will, be listed on a bigger exchange, let's say Bitforex at least, if not even Kraken or at a later date Binance...

    how the price of the token be reflected after considering these two scenarios?

    Surely that could be said of any new crypto. Unless there's an indication it's going to happen I'd give them all about the same chance absent any other indicators.


    Really hard to tell if this is going anywhere or if it's a pump n dump. I get you can still make a profit of a pump n dump if approached with that mindset.

    What are you expecting the impact of todays beta to be ConstantinL? Did you say there were 600 people holding XGG so far, do you think that will change?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    djan wrote: »
    What do you use to monitor that? I remember that usually such large movements lead to substantial price changes. Same as when F2Pool sold off.

    Have subscribed to a channel on Telegram

    cryptoquant digest

    I think it's more useful for day traders/swing traders but useful enough analysis

    The last correction i had been alerted the night before. Some whale had put well over a billion into an exchange


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ConstantinL


    Graham wrote: »

    What are you expecting the impact of todays beta to be ConstantinL? Did you say there were 600 people holding XGG so far, do you think that will change?

    Yes, on Wednesday we were only 100 holders, Saturday 500, now 629.
    There's 1562 ppl on Telegram channel, 2439 Twitter followers (these can be considered as potential buyers which use a cautious approach as you mentioned earlier)

    Have in mind that in only few days from launch it went up almost x6 on Friday, some early buyers secured their profits ahead of the weekend and price retraced a bit, but it gained serious support at around 0.1 euro value, now it looks like it gained momentum and is preparing to make a jump as we approach the beta and marketing time.

    Given the low market cap, and the upcoming beta + marketing campaign, I'd say it will be a flood of buyers this week and next week when they launch the official platform.

    Two possible scenarios:
    - if this proves to be a pump and dump...it will still be able to make at least a x10 up to a x25 jump from current position before a serious retraction. just considering beta, marketing campaign and the official platform launch.
    - on the other hand, if it proves to attract many gambling lovers (keep in mind that the pandemic has created the perfect conditions for people to get into crypto), then this will have a big success, others will speak about it, big investors will come in to play (the odds of winning aren't bad at all vs traditional lottery). The impact on price if this is successful will be probably at least 100x (or even more) with a possible 25%-40% retraction after, but with a good maturity price level which will only appreciate over time.

    Also consider that if it is successful, and the company buys back tokens, it will not do be doing it to resale the tokens straight away (I think that is a naive perspective), but instead hold the tokens, which will give rise to scarcity, as I mentioned before, rising their price...then the tokens which they will hold will reflect their appreciating value of their company, which is better than holding cash which will depreciate over time (time value of the money concept). I believe a good strategy for them is to hold the tokens and in 2-3 years time a bigger company could buy them, their market value will mainly be valued by their assets (which will be their tokens on their balance sheet), their cash/crypto generating projects (continuous positive NPVs cashflows), and of course they will have created an intangible asset by then, which will be their Brand/Goodwill.

    This is only my own reflection on what I think it would be their strategy. That's what I would do if I were them, but of course we don't really know their thoughts or the future, only God knows that.

    Which option would you think would bring them more money?
    - First, pump and dump option?
    or
    - Second, long term appreciation perspective?

    Keep in mind that they make money either way, doesn't matter if all or no users are using the tokens on the lottery.

    Give me your thoughts on this.

    Update: Read this here: https://twitter.com/10xdotgg/status/1371431755790614534
    They've posted screenshot on telegram confirming the locked liquidity.

    Update: Here is a video from the Beta platform (testing). Looks great in my opinion.
    https://youtu.be/QC-BM4PMWHM
    Just won 36 ETH (test) after recording the video :)
    https://youtu.be/CHk2rQcLLic
    And 2x9 more ETH soon after and another 36 eth again, and 36 & 9eth again.
    In total 3x36 eth and 3x9eth.... been playing in 44 pools and won 6 times, so that's a good chance, doesn't feel rigged at this stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Anyone monitor large movement alerts?

    Got one last night that a billion worth of BTC was sent to Gemini. Might be the reason for this mornings dip

    Maybe this is relevant:
    “Onchain data is showing us that institutions are moving tens of thousands of bitcoin off of global exchanges, further adding to the supply squeeze.

    Mr Przelozny said Independent Reserve was having a record March in terms of customer acquisition and trade volume. He said the interest locally is driven by the entire market; SMSFs, retail customers and sophisticated investors.

    “Our OTC desk has been extremely busy. Particularly, we’re seeing many early DeFi adopters take profits and move into bitcoin,” Mr Przelozny said.

    “While we’re not in the market of making short term price predictions, long term we’re bullish on bitcoin.

    He noted recent moves by the likes of JP Morgan and other global fund managers recommending that investors put an allocation toward cryptocurrencies.

    “Seeing large institutions that have traditionally been against cryptocurrency change their tune, that’s a good thing for bitcoin in the long term,” he said.

    “There could be more all-time highs for bitcoin this year.”
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/asx-set-to-slip-bitcoin-hits-record-us61-000-20210315-p57apa.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭BrandonBay86


    Bought this “dip”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    Cardano ADA took a nice jump in the last hour. Being listed on Coinbase Pro on Thursday so should see further gains this week.

    https://twitter.com/CoinbasePro/status/1371869126600368128


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    If you've made some really good gains over the past couple of weeks/months, imo your strategy should be defensive, with minimal concern for aggressive growth

    You should always be looking to lock in & protect gains as much as possible


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    If you've made some really good gains over the past couple of weeks/months, imo your strategy should be defensive, with minimal concern for aggressive growth

    You should always be looking to lock in & protect gains as much as possible

    What are you considering, trailing stop loss if it really goes south?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Toobz


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    If you've made some really good gains over the past couple of weeks/months, imo your strategy should be defensive, with minimal concern for aggressive growth

    You should always be looking to lock in & protect gains as much as possible

    Done that myself by riding ADA from 0.08 in June to 80c and sold early. Felt bad initially but honestly that goes away. Unfortunately my risk tolerance is completely screwed up now and I am playing way too defensive tying it all in stablecoin lending.

    Think i'll buy some ETH for the coming weeks, hasn't moved like rest of the coins around it and with Optimism and other roll ups it should do better in the not too distant future.

    Orion Protocol looks like a great potential moonshot too if anyones interested in riskier picks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Daithi40


    Timmaay wrote: »
    What are you considering, trailing stop loss if it really goes south?

    Been burned before on flash crashes with stop loss and even trailing stop loss, just my 2c but pick a % profit figure that you're comfortable with and commit the order, set up notifications, you can buy back in within hours and you'll be happy out.... I'm sure some will disagree but I'm happy with that strategy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    I bought CHZ at 0.02 and held for months, it went up recently and I sold at ATH 0.31 and set a buy back at 0.26, it kept on going to 0.77. Thats me retired from day trading I'm useless at it lol. I probably lost out on approx €5,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,416 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I bought CHZ at 0.02 and held for months, it went up recently and I sold at ATH 0.31 and set a buy back at 0.26, it kept on going to 0.77. Thats me retired from day trading I'm useless at it lol. I probably lost out on approx €5,000.

    Honestly, this is the classic story. Trading is hard.
    The fact that its an climbing market makes it harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Yeah on the balance holding wins out. You might miss the occasional big jump but you also miss missing those huge pushes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Mellor wrote: »
    Honestly, this is the classic story. Trading is hard.
    The fact that its an climbing market makes it harder.

    At the same time I made a tidy profit that I was able to invest elsewhere so really shouldn't complain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Whats peoples expectation regarding Link. I know it is very difficult to say but what price could it realistically reach? I bought a few recently and I'm thinking of getting rid to free up some money to re invest elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Whats peoples expectation regarding Link. I know it is very difficult to say but what price could it realistically reach?

    About 2-fiddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    About 2-fiddy.

    Is that two hundred and fiddy yo-yos? Or two yo yo fiddy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭mdmix


    Whats peoples expectation regarding Link. I know it is very difficult to say but what price could it realistically reach? I bought a few recently and I'm thinking of getting rid to free up some money to re invest elsewhere.

    I’m sure it will go up with the rest of the market, but will probably underperform for a few months. I think a $200-$300 link would be a reasonable in the long term


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Whats peoples expectation regarding Link. I know it is very difficult to say but what price could it realistically reach? I bought a few recently and I'm thinking of getting rid to free up some money to re invest elsewhere.

    I had lot of hope for it but that was sub €5. Not sure now it seems to be struggling to move beyond where it is now.

    It will be just my luck that I'll cash in and it will shoot for 100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭dirk_dangler


    As we have all seen NFT’s have got very big the last month
    I wonder who could have predicted it?
    Look at the date!
    19 June 2020
    https://blog.chain.link/create-dynamic-nfts-using-chainlink-oracles/
    Chainlink is well ahead of the posse, standard NFT’s are all the rage right now, read the post and let your imagination think of the possibilities of dynamic NFT”s and the potential use, real time updates to stats on collectable trading cards is just one.
    The video game FIFA make a fortune selling collectable packs of new players for your game, we are talking billions of dollars per year, now imagine the next level of these type of cards that will update stats live, your player gets a hat trick in the real world and his stats jump up live in the game .

    Will Tether be able to show the dollar reserves in the coming months?
    The stable coins that do have the dollar reserves are using Chainlink to verify
    https://blog.chain.link/what-are-stablecoins/

    Read yesterday Deutsch Telecom subsidiary, T-Systems have basically admitted they are pausing buying ETH to buy as much LINK as possible. (Can’t find the post)

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/off-chain-reporting-towards-a-new-general-purpose-secure-compute-framework-by-chainlink/

    DeFi was the driver of the last bull run, NTF is looking like this years equivalent and who is connected to them both, Chainlink.

    Then Citi Bank releases the following
    https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/chainlink-may-gain-prominence-over-bitcoin-citi-report/
    Ev-ZWcy-NWYAIxlj-Y.jpg
    Citibank releases research paper and in reference to Chainlink sates: “It is thus already possible to envision a commerce-linked or infrastructure-linked coin that may eventually eclipse Bitcoin
    https://ir.citi.com/peFJTnzeEoMSIAEFlwH12VeM5d%2BCckWNrsO9lxpmyWezrz5V%2Bx%2FfRvm0gv6cWRpDHGWtIk7sTME=
    Im thinking Chainlink is a buy and hold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-investments-launches-five-investment-130000906.html

    Grayscale announces investment into Chainlink and 4 other cryptos

    Pump it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭dirk_dangler


    Unearthly wrote: »
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-investments-launches-five-investment-130000906.html

    Grayscale announces investment into Chainlink and 4 other cryptos

    Pump it

    If i held Theta i would be ..............concerned

    https://grayscale.co/livepeer-trust/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭pioneerpro


    Christ, we back to this mad pumping again with no acknowledgement of the reality of the market?
    As we have all seen NFT’s have got very big the last month
    I wonder who could have predicted it?
    Look at the date!
    19 June 2020

    Certainly not attributed to Chainlink, as anyone could tell from a 30 second google.

    image.png

    Current market as of the last few hours

    image.png
    Chainlink is well ahead of the posse, standard NFT’s are all the rage right now, read the post and let your imagination think of the possibilities of dynamic NFT”s and the potential use, real time updates to stats on collectable trading cards is just one.

    Except, as multiple people have pointed out here, it's the likes of WAX that are infinitely ahead of the curve here.

    https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/02/22/2179668/0/en/Coming-to-Walmart-and-Target-WAX-Digital-Cards-from-Topps.html

    Even as an aside, ETH is so popular for NFTs it's currently destabilising the network in terms of Gas prices.
    The video game FIFA make a fortune selling collectable packs of new players for your game, we are talking billions of dollars per year, now imagine the next level of these type of cards that will update stats live, your player gets a hat trick in the real world and his stats jump up live in the game .

    Except it already exists. Since 2018. On Ethereum.

    https://sorare.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Unearthly wrote: »
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-investments-launches-five-investment-130000906.html

    Grayscale announces investment into Chainlink and 4 other cryptos

    Pump it
    And two of the 5 they mentioned in that article BAT and Fil are the biggest movers today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭dirk_dangler


    pioneerpro wrote: »
    Except, as multiple people have pointed out here, it's the likes of WAX that are infinitely ahead of the curve here.

    https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/02/22/2179668/0/en/Coming-to-Walmart-and-Target-WAX-Digital-Cards-from-Topps.html

    Even as an aside, ETH is so popular for NFTs it's currently destabilising the network in terms of Gas prices.



    Except it already exists. Since 2018. On Ethereum.

    https://sorare.com/

    Never said they invented NFT
    LINK will be powering DYNAMIC NFT's
    https://twitter.com/chainlink/status/1240324388953743361

    https://medium.com/@blokcrafters21/chainlink-liquidapps-on-wax-4e6e22ebf800
    I would bet a bit of digging into Sorare and you will find Chainlink working behind the scenes.
    Its looking like it we be a double portion of humble pie for your good self, once LINK and ROSE moon hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭dirk_dangler


    So i did a bit of digging
    What have we got here, Sorare is using Socios/Chiliz CHZ

    https://twitter.com/SorareHQ/status/1317435896183070723

    https://www.socios.com/four-limited-edition-rare-sorare-collectibles-to-be-won/

    and in Turn CHZ is using CHAINLINK
    https://www.bitcoin-squad.com/chiliz-has-integrated-with-chainlink-what-are-the-benefits-of-this-cooperation/

    Humble pie washed down with a pint of bitter lemon is on the cards


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Jaysus a fair market pump happening at the moment


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