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No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,390 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I just watched a few videos about this on Youtube. Christ, what the hell is wrong with people. I suppose, we as farmers are used to dealing with dead animals.
    All these people with their self-righteousness. I'm sure every one of them have ancestors that tracked down animals and killed them. Probably even sat on them at one time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    I remember years ago calling into a hunt masters yard as a child with my father bringing a mare to a stallion.

    Dead horses, cattle, sheep were all skinned and butchered on the farm and the portions fed to the hounds.

    In the field beside the yard was pile of bones with heads and legs attached. All piled up with the tractor loader.

    Gordon Elliot is a bit older than me and most likely of the hunting fraternity.
    The horse to him was probably a good seat.
    But it's still a bit senseless by him with the horse still on the gallops.

    The photographer and who ever released it knew exactly the type of reaction it would bring.

    Just heard on the news he's been temporarily banned from racing horses in the UK.

    It's a bad look to be sitting on a dead horse, but hardly a good reason to get banned from racing.
    Let people have a look at his yard and see how he is treating the livestock he has and then draw conclusions.
    This world has gone mad with sensationalism over screenshots and photos.
    The horse is dead and he is sitting on it making a call (maybe calling the knackery to get it removed)
    Do these people get as bothered about a live horse getting a bit of whip being ridden hard while alive or indeed sitting on a nice genuine leather recliner at home?
    There are a hell of alot live horses people could get outraged over in this country before they need to start worrying about the dead ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    If I was the owner of the horse I'd be a bit annoyed all right.
    After all the fees he'd been paid a bit of decorum and respect for the animal and the owner would have been in order.
    Dunno what the Guardian and the Great British public is getting het up about, sure they all knew David Cameron had posed with his dick in a dead pigs mouth, and they elected him Prime Minister...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    A grand haze out at dawn and dusk down this way today.reminded me a lot of the South Australian bush in the states South East and the early rises this time last year driving from Mt Gambier to Adelaide for a weekend of R&R. Nothing but black silohuettes of the trees for most of the drive today. A good start to the week for a change this week.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,345 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I just watched a few videos about this on Youtube. Christ, what the hell is wrong with people. I suppose, we as farmers are used to dealing with dead animals.
    All these people with their self-righteousness. I'm sure every one of them have ancestors that tracked down animals and killed them. Probably even sat on them at one time.

    It's a cultural change in people.

    Look back on the episodes of The Irish RM. And that wasn't filmed all that long ago.
    Florrie Knox was filmed with real dead horses hanging up. And not an eyelid batted by the public at the time.
    Everyone watching took it for normal.

    Where will we end up?
    Dog breeding and ownership could even be banned in the future.
    We're moving in a quare direction anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Had a few acres to tidy up with the digger at home that I have been meaning to do with the last few years but never got around to. Let a local young lad at it that used to be spinning around with me in the summer when I was at silage for the local contractor. He would have done small bits on machines but never that much either. Has done a mighty job on it, the place was like the surface of the moon a few days ago and he has all the mootes taken out of it, piles of boulders buried, pulled all the blackthorns growing around the edges of it and is just started grading it now and the bit he has done is like perfect. Said he won't be happy unless he's making bales in it next year. Great to see a fella that interested and knowing he's going to leave it right after him even with a lack of experience. I had to tell him to go home at 8 o clock last night, I'd say he'd still have been there this morning if I didn't.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,837 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Betfair pulled their Elliot sponsorship. Oh the ethics of it, a betting co worried about their image.


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    Had a Google, thought it looked a distasteful and unwise thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,643 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Not in a million yrs would I sit on a dead animal.....I’d say not many would.
    I doubt I would either but it's not about sitting on a dead horse - it's about sitting astride on a dead horse and imo that's not on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Base price wrote: »
    I doubt I would either but it's not about sitting on a dead horse - it's about sitting astride on a dead horse and imo that's not on.

    If we lost an animal here id be like a cnut for 3 days. That photo was an awful kick in the teeth to the owner of thst horse. Shows an awful lack of respect to what puts money in his pocket. I doubt you'd see any of the O'Brien family doing the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Dad used to say that he used to see the lads sitting on the side of a cow and eat lunch at a knackers yard. It would turn his stomach.

    Dad pulled a calf for a neighbour one time and the calf was dead, the neighbour went kicking the calf in frustration. Dad ate him out of it for having no value or respect for the animal.

    That photo showed that lad had zero respect for the horse. Granted it was dead but it was disrespectful.as they say, he will have no luck for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,643 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I've had a busy day and I didn't get a chance to collect the post from the post box until a few mins ago. Good news is that I got a letter stating I'm mortgage free for the second time in my life and it's definitely the last time - I availed of equity release in 2007. It's such comfort to know I'm finally free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Base price wrote: »
    I've had a busy day and I didn't get a chance to collect the post from the post box until a few mins ago. Good news is that I got a letter stating I'm mortgage free for the second time in my life and it's definitely the last time - I availed of equity release in 2007. It's such comfort to know I'm finally free.

    My grandfather had a saying that "the bank manager should be your servant not your master"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,265 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Base price wrote: »
    I've had a busy day and I didn't get a chance to collect the post from the post box until a few mins ago. Good news is that I got a letter stating I'm mortgage free for the second time in my life and it's definitely the last time - I availed of equity release in 2007. It's such comfort to know I'm finally free.

    Well Done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,837 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    TB first round done this morning. We'll see what Friday brings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    wrangler wrote: »
    I'd be more critical of the photographer for spreading it actually.
    I often sat on anything that was near if there was a chance of a good chat on the phone.

    who here would sit on a dead animal, have to say I probably would

    Hell hath no fury like a lover scorned ... it would seem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Is it safe to give copper injection to cattle at turnout or should I leave a week between? I was told that copper can stress the animal for the first few days. I don’t know if it’s true. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,837 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Is it safe to give copper injection to cattle at turnout or should I leave a week between? I was told that copper can stress the animal for the first few days. I don’t know if it’s true. Thanks

    Don't have an answer, but would a bolus be an option?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Water John wrote: »
    Don't have an answer, but would a bolus be an option?

    I have the bottles bought and will inject at weekend. Bolus not an option as I’m on my own and too many to do. Lazy as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,863 ✭✭✭White Clover


    I have the bottles bought and will inject at weekend. Bolus not an option as I’m on my own and too many to do. Lazy as well.

    Do you inject into the top of the neck using a long needle? I always found that tricky enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,390 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I see there is another video now of jockey Rob James on a dead horse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgPgMo1vd-k

    'Mobile phones, but men in mobile homes.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Odelay


    I see there is another video now of jockey Rob James on a dead horse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgPgMo1vd-k

    'Mobile phones, but men in mobile homes.'

    What is all the fuss about?? He put one leg over, most of his weight was on the left leg on the ground and the horse was dead?? Five seconds of a mistake In 20+ years of life and the lad is all over the news.
    I’ve made plenty of five second poor taste decisions. Remember laughing about something at my dads funeral with my sisters but thankfully no cameras there. There was no disrespect, just one of those things in a time of grief.
    If the horse was dragged about, hit or left out in the open for days, then yes that would be disrespectful but not this. Just five seconds of silliness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Do you inject into the top of the neck using a long needle? I always found that tricky enough.

    Deep into neck. Not too many lumps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,345 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Odelay wrote: »
    What is all the fuss about?? He put one leg over, most of his weight was on the left leg on the ground and the horse was dead?? Five seconds of a mistake In 20+ years of life and the lad is all over the news.
    I’ve made plenty of five second poor taste decisions. Remember laughing about something at my dads funeral with my sisters but thankfully no cameras there. There was no disrespect, just one of those things in a time of grief.
    If the horse was dragged about, hit or left out in the open for days, then yes that would be disrespectful but not this. Just five seconds of silliness.

    It's gone beyond stupid at this stage.
    Total witchhunt.

    You could see what Rob was at there. He'd have massive experience with machinery and loaders so was probably just watching the loader man that he was doing everything ok.
    Then when he wasn't making much progress with the dead horse. Larked that he'd be quicker riding the horse out himself. That's the way I took it and you could see it in his face when he did it that he thought better of it with those around him.


    All these snowflakes will have a total meltdown when they see the next video of the body being skinned.. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Thing is people have nothing better to be doing at the minute only criticising the slightest thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,687 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Thing is people have nothing better to be doing at the minute only criticising the slightest thing

    Any update on who reported you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Thing is people have nothing better to be doing at the minute only criticising the slightest thing

    The people who are offended the most are also the ones who would have campaigned vigorously for abortion. The mind is a very fickle thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any update on who reported you?

    Nah I'll hold fire till next winter as I'm guessed it will be business as usual then again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    The people who are offended the most are also the ones who would have campaigned vigorously for abortion. The mind is a very fickle thing.

    Or the ones hoping for a dump of snow so it's pretty to look out at it not having to fight through it to feed animals even tho they would be the first to cast a stone at farmers for abusing thier animals


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    The people who are offended the most are also the ones who would have campaigned vigorously for abortion. The mind is a very fickle thing.




    ah now what wrong with abortion?


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