What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

PropJoe10 · 22-02-2021 11:40AM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

What funny is how Biden's disapproval rating is perfectly in line with the floor of Trumps cultists that kept approving no matter what, be it child separation at the border, mocking dead soldiers, vetoing bipartisan arms embargoes to the saudis, having the economy cave in under him, epic failures in handling covid leading to the US accounting for about 20% of the global death total to which his attitude was "it is what it is", and finally trying to undo American democracy.

This same crowd would write off all the above with "orange man bad" and "Trump Derangement Syndrome" yet here they are all disapproving of Biden and pretending to be offended about things like a speech impediment.

It's equal parts pathetic and hilarious, and it applies to about a third of the US voting public:
- https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
- https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

I've been saying it for a while - the US needs to seriously look at its education system. You'll also have the crazy element anywhere, but the fact that such a high percentage of the US population is happy to buy into Trump's nonsense is very worrying indeed.

extra gravy · 22-02-2021 11:58AM

PropJoe10 wrote: »

I've been saying it for a while - the US needs to seriously look at its education system. You'll also have the crazy element anywhere, but the fact that such a high percentage of the US population is happy to buy into Trump's nonsense is very worrying indeed.

Some people are just gullible though and easily manipulated. Can education completely solve this? I'm not so sure.

everlast75 · 22-02-2021 12:35PM

Good to see Donny Jnr is doing well...

https://twitter.com/MysterySolvent/status/1363331087804624899?s=19

duploelabs · 22-02-2021 12:46PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Good to see Donny Jnr is doing well...

https://twitter.com/MysterySolvent/status/1363331087804624899?s=19

What is with those types having to do pieces to camera in front of their guns, I saw Lauren Boebert doing it the other day, is it a need to compensate for something? It's like they can't rely on the conviction of their words and need to show how 'strong' they are

BattleCorp · 22-02-2021 01:33PM

duploelabs wrote: »

What is with those types having to do pieces to camera in front of their guns, I saw Lauren Boebert doing it the other day, is it a need to compensate for something? It's like they can't rely on the conviction of their words and need to show how 'strong' they are

It's probably to appeal to other gun owners. There are real fears in the US that Biden is going to try to implement gun law changes so it is probably a way to show that they are against such changes.

Quin_Dub · 22-02-2021 01:54PM

duploelabs wrote: »

What is with those types having to do pieces to camera in front of their guns, I saw Lauren Boebert doing it the other day, is it a need to compensate for something? It's like they can't rely on the conviction of their words and need to show how 'strong' they are

It's not just that - Look at the change in the Don Jr. image over the last few years.

Before Dad went into Politics he looked like an extra from American Psycho - Slicked back hair , expensive suit etc.

Steadily though his image has evolved , Open neck plaid shirts , beard , talking about "Huntin', Shootin', Fishin'" etc.

So hiding his true self (Classic "Entitled Douche" American Corporate look) and projecting this "I'm a regular "middle American" guy.

Incredibly transparent , but it would appear to work on a large number of people.

And they all do it , the ability for people in the US to utterly reinvent themselves to chase the money and or Votes seemingly without consequence is amazing to me.

See - Kayleigh McEnany , Candace Owens et al for other examples of total persona 180's that they see to have gotten free passes on.

duploelabs · 22-02-2021 02:00PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

It's not just that - Look at the change in the Don Jr. image over the last few years.

Before Dad went into Politics he looked like an extra from American Psycho - Slicked back hair , expensive suit etc.

Steadily though his image has evolved , Open neck plaid shirts , beard , talking about "Huntin', Shootin', Fishin'" etc.

So hiding his true self (Classic "Entitled Douche" American Corporate look) and projecting this "I'm a regular "middle American" guy.

Incredibly transparent , but it would appear to work on a large number of people.

And they all do it , the ability for people in the US to utterly reinvent themselves to chase the money and or Votes seemingly without consequence is amazing to me.

See - Kayleigh McEnany , Candace Owens et al for other examples of total persona 180's that they see to have gotten free passes on.

You forgot about the metamorphosis of Tucker Carlson to that list

Carfacemandog · 22-02-2021 02:07PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Good to see Donny Jnr is doing well...

https://twitter.com/MysterySolvent/status/1363331087804624899?s=19

He made it through a whole 46 second clips without a single loud sniffle, though by the looks of it the damage has already been done.

ohnonotgmail · 22-02-2021 02:34PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Good to see Donny Jnr is doing well...

https://twitter.com/MysterySolvent/status/1363331087804624899?s=19

Don't do drugs kids.

extra gravy · 22-02-2021 04:01PM

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1363861445818142720?s=19

He is f***ed. No doubt there'll be a leak. Looking forward to it.

duploelabs · 22-02-2021 04:10PM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1363861445818142720?s=19

He is f***ed. No doubt there'll be a leak. Looking forward to it.

This is the part of that Simpson 'the joy of sect' episode when the escape ufo craft disintegrates showing what's actually there

briany · 22-02-2021 04:15PM

I don't think anyone should be declaring Trump's f*ckedness ahead of time, because it's one law for the powerful and another law for the rest of us.

extra gravy · 22-02-2021 04:18PM

briany wrote: »

I don't think anyone should be declaring Trump's f*ckedness ahead of time, because it's one law for the powerful and another law for the rest of us.

Indeed but it will at least destroy his image as a successful businessman and we know that's all he cares about.

briany · 22-02-2021 04:26PM

extra gravy wrote: »

Indeed but it will at least destroy his image as a successful businessman and we know that's all he cares about.

Destroy it in who's eyes? Those critical of Trump are already aware he's filed for bankruptcy a number of times and deliberately inflates his assets so to make the Forbes rich list and so on. So that's preaching to the choir. Those who support Trump just shrug off everything that would make the man look bad. If it even makes their news feeds, it would probably be to say the story is fake news.

Therefore, the situation will make almost no difference to the shape of the ideological battle lines. Now, if this process could prevent him from running for office again, that's a lot more interesting, but I have the feeling it'll get bogged down even if that's the case.

Muahahaha · 22-02-2021 04:37PM

duploelabs wrote: »

What is with those types having to do pieces to camera in front of their guns, I saw Lauren Boebert doing it the other day, is it a need to compensate for something? It's like they can't rely on the conviction of their words and need to show how 'strong' they are

Boebert is an absolute parody for gun nuts in the US. She owns a restaurant called 'Shooters' in a town called 'Rifle', Colorado where her and all her waitresses walk around open carrying weapons as they serve tables. Check out the menu where you can order such dishes as the 'M-16 Burrito' and 'Ballistic Chicken'
https://shootersgrill.com/pages/our-menus
Its like something straight out of South Park

Anyway this Sunday sees the return of Trump with his first public speech since the Janruary 6th riots. He is due to address the main conservative conference CPAC where he will talk about the future of the Republican Party. Mike Pompeo is also due to speak. Mike Pence was invited to speak but declined the invitation, likely afraid that the Trump crowd would shout him down as a traitor. Reports say he plans to keep a very low profile for at least the next six months.

ohnonotgmail · 22-02-2021 04:43PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Boebert is an absolute parody for gun nuts in the US. She owns a restaurant called 'Shooters' in a town called 'Rifle', Colorado where her and all her waitresses walk around open carrying weapons as they serve tables. Check out the menu where you can order such dishes as the 'M-16 Burrito' and 'Ballistic Chicken'
https://shootersgrill.com/pages/our-menus
Its like something straight out of South Park

Anyway this Sunday sees the return of Trump with his first public speech since the Janruary 6th riots. He is due to address the main conservative conference CPAC where he will talk about the future of the Republican Party. Mike Pompeo is also due to speak. Mike Pence was invited to speak but declined the invitation, likely afraid that the Trump crowd would shout him down as a traitor. Reports say he plans to keep a very low profile for at least the next six months.

you mean shoot?

Quin_Dub · 22-02-2021 05:13PM

briany wrote: »

I don't think anyone should be declaring Trump's f*ckedness ahead of time, because it's one law for the powerful and another law for the rest of us.

Of that there is no doubt , but I think the fact that New York have brought in Mark Pomerantz as a "Special Attroney" is extremely telling.

That guy is the absolute expert on RICO laws both as a DA and as a defence attorney. As a DA he prosecuted John Gotti and then went in to the Private sector where he defended Mafiso's against RICO charges

He has been brought in to harden up a RICO case against Trump et al . His experience on both sides of the bench in this area is unsurpassed - There's no other reason to add him.

If the plan is to go after him using RICO , then the "one rule for the rich/powerful" probably no longer applies.

everlast75 · 22-02-2021 11:22PM

https://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1363939830099554304?s=19

ohnonotgmail · 23-02-2021 12:07AM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1363939830099554304?s=19

whiney little SOB isn't he?

Tell me how · 23-02-2021 12:20AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

whiney little SOB isn't he?

Always was, always will be.
The statement reads like a series of tweets he previously would have written.

Mueller, Cuomo, the Tea Party, the Supreme Court, the state attorneys, Democrats, the IRS, they're all against him.

He says the investigations are an attempt to stop the nearly 75M who voted for him. Stop them from what Donald? They're not being investigated, you are.

mcmoustache · 23-02-2021 01:52AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

whiney little SOB isn't he?

He really is. He's a spoiled brat and yet people look up to that.

everlast75 · 23-02-2021 08:27AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

whiney little SOB isn't he?

You're too kind actually....

Field east · 23-02-2021 09:26AM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1363939830099554304?s=19

Is the last paragraph the beginning of a CALL to ARMS ? -ACT 2. It sounds like very familiar to the kind of rhetoric that leas d to the storming of The Capitol on Jan 6th last

Carfacemandog · 23-02-2021 09:49AM

The levels of projection about prosecutors and AGs considering he basically described William Barrs role in the White House to a tee, is absolutely glorious. :pac:

Tell me how · 23-02-2021 04:55PM

Field east wrote: »

Is the last paragraph the beginning of a CALL to ARMS ? -ACT 2. It sounds like very familiar to the kind of rhetoric that leas d to the storming of The Capitol on Jan 6th last

It's a mess of a paragraph.

'I will fight on, just as I have, for the last 5 years (and even before I was successfully elected) despite all of the election crimes that were committed against me. We will win.'

The comma after the word 'have' is redundant and breaks the tone of what he was trying to say. The end of that sentence from the word 'despite' onwards should have either been included within the brackets or have been the sole part of the text in brackets.

The reference to election crimes in this paragraph shows just how distracted his mind is and aside from the last sentence being false, used within a paragraph where there were 3 references to him in the singular first person, this is once again jagged and out of place.

There's no doubt he wrote or narrated this statement to someone who did zero clean up of it.

everlast75 · 24-02-2021 01:58PM

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1364556239359901697?s=19

MadYaker · 24-02-2021 02:14PM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1364556239359901697?s=19

I get the feeling he posted that just after he got out of a meeting with his cabinet where he was told the exact opposite.

everlast75 · 24-02-2021 02:37PM

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1364418553336758273?s=19

Excuse the language, but it is ****ing outrageous that senators and members of Congress are still out there, pushing the big lie.

People have literally died, and yet they double down and keep lying, making the chances of more people suffering even higher.

I am relieved Pelosi and Pence avoided the mob, but i cannot help but wonder what would have happened if they came to harm. Would the vote to confirm the results be the same? Would they still be pushing the lie after the inauguration?

Leroy42 · 24-02-2021 04:20PM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1363939830099554304?s=19

I just find it really strange that he is now basically calling the SCOTUS as some sort of Democrat led politically driven partisan hack job.

SCOTUS picks were basically his crowning achievement. He really did little else that made a positive difference to anyone.

And yet here he is, saying that he elected people to SCOTUS that are puppets of the Democrats! If that is true that hasn't he single handledly handed over the SCOTUS to Democrats?

How can his supporters read that statement and think that he is the man to get back in charge?

54and56 · 24-02-2021 04:43PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

I just find it really strange that he is now basically calling the SCOTUS as some sort of Democrat led politically driven partisan hack job.

SCOTUS picks were basically his crowning achievement. He really did little else that made a positive difference to anyone.

And yet here he is, saying that he elected people to SCOTUS that are puppets of the Democrats! If that is true that hasn't he single handledly handed over the SCOTUS to Democrats?

How can his supporters read that statement and think that he is the man to get back in charge?

Because he has cultivated a god like persona for the disaffected / forgotten / bigoted / racist / simplistic / introverted / far right / evangelical cohort of the US electorate and like any cult style leader his followers are mesmerised and slavishly follow his pronouncements without question or critique.

When you (Dems and Republicans) have allowed a massively polarised society to emerge with huge swaths of un or under educated citizens who feel excluded and genuinely believe they have nothing to lose you only have yourself to blame when someone eventually comes along and taps into that disaffection by telling them they are loved, that they are the real America, that he will fight for them to make their lives better and that XXX (choose your target group from Mexicans to Dems to Antifa to Environmental campaigners to China etc) are to blame for their situation etc etc.

Combined inaction by the Dems and Republicans to create a more fair and balanced society over decades is to blame for the macro problem. Trump has and is taking advantage of it.

What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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