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Herd Number + Entitlement

  • 21-02-2021 03:16PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭


    Hi,

    Looking for a piece of advice.

    Looking at leasing a piece of land for 6 years for horses but land is fairly expensive so I'd need to claim the entitlements. My question is if I get a herd number and have no other stock will I have an issue claiming the entitlements?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭zetor 4911


    vinnyryan wrote: »
    Hi,

    Looking for a piece of advice.

    Looking at leasing a piece of land for 6 years for horses but land is fairly expensive so I'd need to claim the entitlements. My question is if I get a herd number and have no other stock will I have an issue claiming the entitlements?

    Do you have entitlements to claim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭vinnyryan


    Yes, they come with the land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Charolois 19


    AFAIK there has to be a foal of them for the year gone or something to that effect, I know a friend has a situation like that anyway, i don't know if all his mares have to foal or just the amount that makes up his units for the entitlements?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭minerleague


    vinnyryan wrote: »
    Hi,

    Looking for a piece of advice.

    Looking at leasing a piece of land for 6 years for horses but land is fairly expensive so I'd need to claim the entitlements. My question is if I get a herd number and have no other stock will I have an issue claiming the entitlements?

    I assume owner is insisting you would draw down entitlements not just get the value in the rent ( they could be lost to reserve otherwise ) . Do you have any hard / flock no to have horses presently ? . Cant see any problem drawing entitlements if you get herd no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭The11Duff


    You should contact an agri advisor


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭zetor 4911


    No need for stock to draw down entitlements just keep the land in good agriculture condition. Need stock to get ANC payment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭vinnyryan


    zetor 4911 wrote: »
    No need for stock to draw down entitlements just keep the land in good agriculture condition. Need stock to get ANC payment

    Thanks a mil.

    Apparently there's entitlements and headage payments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭vinnyryan


    I assume owner is insisting you would draw down entitlements not just get the value in the rent ( they could be lost to reserve otherwise ) . Do you have any hard / flock no to have horses presently ? . Cant see any problem drawing entitlements if you get herd no.

    Yeah, unfortunately. And the land is fairly expensive so I will need the return. Apparently there's entitlements and headage payments.

    I haven't got a herd number before so wanted to check if I get one is there any fine print that would prevent me from being able to claim without stock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭minerleague


    vinnyryan wrote: »
    Yeah, unfortunately. And the land is fairly expensive so I will need the return. Apparently there's entitlements and headage payments.

    I haven't got a herd number before so wanted to check if I get one is there any fine print that would prevent me from being able to claim without stock.

    ANC is headage payments ( need min stock 0.15lu/ha ) unsure if horses alone qualifies. Entitlements is BPS. Maps showing plot no. should have been posted to whoever farmed the land last year. Was thinking if you have land for 6 years you should apply to pilot REPS scheme this year. Next year all GLAS farmers will be trying to join


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