Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Whatisthisnow · 22-02-2021 09:09AM

Floppybits wrote: »

Is this line part of the FG social media training manual? Seems to be trotted out by every FG supporter on here it looks like ye gave all been trained to say this or its in the FG handbook.

Even The Green supporters are using it

smurgen · 22-02-2021 09:15AM

Knowing now that it was a whistleblower at the department of health it seem that Varadkars lack of engagement at reforming whistleblower laws makes sense. Also important to note he is currently being investigated for his inaction at a prison service whistleblower.

The fish rots from the head!

"Tánaiste Leo Varadkar is among a group of senior politicians and public officials who will be investigated for allegedly failing to protect a whistleblower in the Irish Prison Service. The investigation could fundamentally change how politicians deal with a person making a protected disclosure."

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40187652.html

McMurphy · 22-02-2021 09:23AM

The investigation is gathering pace, and apparently Drew Harris did not inform Helen McEntee about it.

Maybe after the guards were used as patsys by FG/lab in Paul Murphy's case, they're going to try and claw back some credibility?

Floppybits · 22-02-2021 09:35AM

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

Even The Green supporters are using it

Funny that, this is exactly what another supposedly Green supporter on here.

Oh I'm not an FG supporter, I'm a green but will defend FG and their leaders to the hilt and become more FG than FG themselves.

blanch152 · 22-02-2021 12:23PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Funny that, this is exactly what another supposedly Green supporter on here.

Oh I'm not an FG supporter, I'm a green but will defend FG and their leaders to the hilt and become more FG than FG themselves.

The bitterness is strong in some.

The clear reference to me is noted.

I have previously pointed out my opposition to quite a number of FG and government policies, most recently the pandering to the teacher unions in respect of the Leaving Certificate. I note the opposition, thanks to them being in the unions' pockets have been conspicuously silent on the issue.

The Greens are flawed but are by far the best party, the current government has been disappointing but is far better than the pathetic opposition. It is actually possible to consider the Greens the least bad and to vote for them.

Floppybits · 22-02-2021 12:36PM

blanch152 wrote: »

The Greens are flawed but are by far the best party, the current government has been disappointing but is far better than the pathetic opposition. It is actually possible to consider the Greens the least bad and to vote for them.

Maybe at one they were but the handling of the mother and baby homes report, which I believe you said was a great report, has been a disaster. The lack of compassion and empathy that Roderic O'Gorman has shown towards the survivors is frankly disgusting. Also not the mention the support of Leo Varadkar when he was found to be leaking confidential documents, the appointment of the least experienced candidate to the supreme court despite experienced judges applying for the role, the list goes on and on.

Now the Greens are seen as no different to FG or FF and now we have Ryan flipping on CETA and you really think that floating voters are going to vote for the Greens after this performance?

Also how shocking is that the calibre of our politicians when someone goes to vote is to pick the least worst option.

Jinglejangle69 · 22-02-2021 02:43PM

Can they actually seize phones after the Graham Dwyer ruling?

Suckit · 22-02-2021 02:51PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Is this line part of the FG social media training manual? Seems to be trotted out by every FG supporter on here it looks like ye gave all been trained to say this or its in the FG handbook.

And it always turns out to be incorrect.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Can they actually seize phones after the Graham Dwyer ruling?

We may find out.

Either way it won't look good. If he decides not to hand it over it could look worse.

Looking more and more likely that he will not be our next Taoiseach.

McMurphy · 22-02-2021 02:53PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Can they actually seize phones after the Graham Dwyer ruling?

I wouldn't worry about it jingle, personally I think the phones are a moot point, as I described yesterday, the chances of Leo Varadkar actually still using the same phone as he was using as Taoiseach would be slim I'd imagine, and besides that there's screenshots and an admission and apology from him, so he's hardly going to deny it now.

Plus he's already said he doesn't keep messages, IE you can bet your mortgage, he's had any dodgy dealing days well sanitised at this stage already.

I think what will have Leo, Harris and Zero Craic more concerned will be if there story's all match up, and what (if any) conflicting information the whistleblower has given the NCBI, and if anyone has obtained a hard copy of the contract Leo gave zero craic.

All eyes on NCBI, let's see what the next move is.

golfball37 · 22-02-2021 03:19PM

As I repeat ad nauseum. The only thing defending the indefensible in the hope of staving off the shinners does is make the shinners grow.
Am beginning to think some of the lads here are sleeper agents tbh, part of the wider Shinner online strategy. I just don’t take them seriously anymore

Whatisthisnow · 22-02-2021 03:32PM

golfball37 wrote: »

As I repeat ad nauseum. The only thing defending the indefensible in the hope of staving off the shinners does is make the shinners grow.
Am beginning to think some of the lads here are sleeper agents tbh, part of the wider Shinner online strategy. I just don’t take them seriously anymore

It wasnt Sinn Fein who reported this to the Gardai.

It wasnt even Sinn Fein who found out about his leaking.

But Sinn Fein anyway

James Brown · 22-02-2021 03:45PM

blanch152 wrote: »

The bitterness is strong in some.

The clear reference to me is noted.

I have previously pointed out my opposition to quite a number of FG and government policies, most recently the pandering to the teacher unions in respect of the Leaving Certificate. I note the opposition, thanks to them being in the unions' pockets have been conspicuously silent on the issue.

The Greens are flawed but are by far the best party, the current government has been disappointing but is far better than the pathetic opposition. It is actually possible to consider the Greens the least bad and to vote for them.

Don't like FF/FG/Greens pandering to unions, but will defend FF/FG/Greens on every single discussion no matter what.
Really doesn't like the opposition being in the unions pocket.
On this the FF/FG/Green are pandering, but the opposition, who have no power are worserer because they seem quiet.
Okay so...

The Greens quite rightly will be relegated to the third division next election. No point in hurling from the ditch if they can't take the ball and run with it something something...they are the ones getting the orange slices in senior hurling.

blanch152 · 22-02-2021 04:10PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Maybe at one they were but the handling of the mother and baby homes report, which I believe you said was a great report, has been a disaster. The lack of compassion and empathy that Roderic O'Gorman has shown towards the survivors is frankly disgusting. Also not the mention the support of Leo Varadkar when he was found to be leaking confidential documents, the appointment of the least experienced candidate to the supreme court despite experienced judges applying for the role, the list goes on and on.

Now the Greens are seen as no different to FG or FF and now we have Ryan flipping on CETA and you really think that floating voters are going to vote for the Greens after this performance?

Also how shocking is that the calibre of our politicians when someone goes to vote is to pick the least worst option.

Now, where did I say it was a great report?

It really says something about how well the government has done over the last year when all you have is

(1) Something, something about empathy on one independent report
(2) Something about an appointment that went through an independent process (unlike, say, political appointments in the North)
(3) CETA

James Brown · 22-02-2021 04:16PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Now, where did I say it was a great report?

It really says something about how well the government has done over the last year when all you have is

(1) Something, something about empathy on one independent report
(2) Something about an appointment that went through an independent process (unlike, say, political appointments in the North)
(3) CETA

1) A report the survivors stated contain 'glaring inaccuracies' that had testimonies deleted. A report FF/FG had to be dragged into setting up.
2) Several applicants ignored so a FG crony could be the only one put forward for it.
3)Yes, the Greens selling out might be a thing to Green supporters.

Of course we've the Tánaiste lying, apologising, under investigation by the Garda...nothing to see here

Before the end of the week there'll no doubt be something else.

Muahahaha · 22-02-2021 04:55PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Also how shocking is that the calibre of our politicians when someone goes to vote is to pick the least worst option.

Reminds me of this

Pretty much sums up Fine Gael, delivering mediocrity in public governance since 2011 and their voters accept it

J.O. Farmer · 22-02-2021 05:09PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Reminds me of this

Pretty much sums up Fine Gael, delivering mediocrity in public governance since 2011 and their voters accept it

I always think of the Mario Rosenstock skit on radio where Enda Kenny is teaching his class of ministers that they will "just about manage not to disgrace themselves" during a visit by AJ Chopra or something.

Sometimes it feels like that's where the bar is set and sometimes it feels like they still stumble crossing it.

RandomViewer · 22-02-2021 05:16PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Can they actually seize phones after the Graham Dwyer ruling?

Would think Varadkar upgrades the IPhone everytime theres a minor model change so whatever phone he had then will be long gone,

blanch152 · 22-02-2021 05:16PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Also how shocking is that the calibre of our politicians when someone goes to vote is to pick the least worst option.

On this point, when you see anti-vaxxers, 9/11 deniers and other tinfoil-hatted candidates in parties like Sinn Fein, settling for least worst option looks like an excellent choice.

James Brown · 22-02-2021 05:24PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Reminds me of this

Pretty much sums up Fine Gael, delivering mediocrity in public governance since 2011 and their voters accept it

They did preside over the most homeless children recorded since the inception of the state. Not to be sniffed at.

FrancieBrady · 22-02-2021 05:25PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Would think Varadkar upgrades the IPhone everytime theres a minor model change so whatever phone he had then will be long gone,

Phones don't survive long in the power swap. That's a given.

James Brown · 22-02-2021 05:32PM

blanch152 wrote: »

On this point, when you see anti-vaxxers, 9/11 deniers and other tinfoil-hatted candidates in parties like Sinn Fein, settling for least worst option looks like an excellent choice.

This is you preaching about SF in a LV thread? No issues, just pointing it out.
It's telling you need go to old tweets and stories pertain to FF/FG too in an effort to dodge FF/FG policy talk. If you feel yourself constantly covering for a party, maybe they're not for you.

RandomViewer · 22-02-2021 05:40PM

blanch152 wrote: »

On this point, when you see anti-vaxxers, 9/11 deniers and other tinfoil-hatted candidates in parties like Sinn Fein, settling for least worst option looks like an excellent choice.

Green party would be full of crackpots and oddballs, Gormley and Eamo being prime examples,

McMurphy · 22-02-2021 06:06PM

James Brown wrote: »

They did preside over the most homeless children recorded since the inception of the state. Not to be sniffed at.

Not to mention being at the helm when Ireland had officially the world's worst covid transmission rate.

Not Haiti, not Cambodia, not even Free Derry corner. Ireland's was the worst in the world.

Floppybits · 22-02-2021 06:14PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Green party would be full of crackpots and oddballs, Gormley and Eamo being prime examples,

Never forget the Salad boxes speech.

The fact is that political parties have all sorts of crackpots and oddballs, you only need look at the YFG rubbish to see that.

To me FF/FG/SF are all as bad as each other and all parties have their oddballs and crackpots and it is a pretty depressing to think that this is the best we have got and this is with the over inflated salaries that they are on.

James Brown · 22-02-2021 06:29PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Not to mention being at the helm when Ireland had officially the world's worst covid transmission rate.

Not Haiti, not Cambodia, not even Free Derry corner. Ireland's was the worst in the world.

Ah sure but for such a short time it's like there was no Covid number 19 at all at all....

James Brown · 22-02-2021 06:31PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Never forget the Salad boxes speech. The fact is that political parties have all sorts of crackpots and oddballs, you only need look at the YFG rubbish to see that.

To me FF/FG/SF are all as bad as each other and all parties have their oddballs and crackpots and it is a pretty depressing to think that this is the best we have got and this is with the over inflated salaries that they are on.

I have to go on record in government and policies. I wouldn't co-sign a mortgage for any of them.
SF best hope to oust FF/FG, SD's brightest light on the horizon.

Floppybits · 22-02-2021 06:31PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Not to mention being at the helm when Ireland had officially the world's worst covid transmission rate.

Not Haiti, not Cambodia, not even Free Derry corner. Ireland's was the worst in the world.

Was this the Ireland that is no longer an island or some other place. Still chuckling at that one today.

RandomViewer · 22-02-2021 06:35PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Never forget the Salad boxes speech. The fact is that political parties have all sorts of crackpots and oddballs, you only need look at the YFG rubbish to see that.

To me FF/FG/SF are all as bad as each other and all parties have their oddballs and crackpots and it is a pretty depressing to think that this is the best we have got and this is with the over inflated salaries that they are on.

When the main requirement to getting on the ballot is your Grandfather,Aunt,third cousin was a TD you aren't exactly setting a high bar, We have people in the Dail who nothing about anything from all parties .Some sort of course for prospective politicians would be something we should consider,

Floppybits · 22-02-2021 06:35PM

James Brown wrote: »

I have to go on record in government and policies. I wouldn't co-sign a mortgage for any of them.
SF best hope to oust FF/FG, SD's brightest light on the horizon.

Not to keen on SF in government but then again FF and FG really can't be trusted either. Never again should any FF or FG supporter ever talk about the magic money tree again with the way they have behaved and another pay rise coming for them as well.

I have high hopes for the Soc Dems but I would like to see a bit growth from them at the local lever to really start making an impact at government level. I admired them when they made the decision not to go in with this government as it would've ruined them as a party, which is probably what FF/FG/LAB/GRN supporters wanted.

James Brown · 22-02-2021 06:39PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Not to keen on SF in government but then again FF and FG really can't be trusted either. Never again should any FF or FG supporter ever talk about the magic money tree again with the way they have behaved and another pay rise coming for them as well.

I have high hopes for the Soc Dems but I would like to see a bit growth from them at the local lever to really start making an impact at government level. I admired them when they made the decision not to go in with this government as it would've ruined them as a party, which is probably what FF/FG/LAB/GRN supporters wanted.

That's it. FF/FG are not fit so look at the options. SF will look after the tax payer. They might make a balls but it'll be in trying to organise social housing at least.

FF/FG/Greens excuse slipping confidential documents to pals, commemorate people such as the RIC/Tans and would argue Ireland isn't an island. Then of course theres the record breaking societal crises less important than making profits for their own.

Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Comments