The National Party

Eric Cartman wrote: »

You dont, but that particular issue turns off a load of voters, even FF decided to become pro choice, much to the anger of a lot of their supporters.

The market for ‘pro life’ parties os dead in ireland, it hurts big parties, it will kill small ones. Most voters get creepy vibes about the iona institute or the catholic church pulling the strings when they see a pro life party and want nothing to do with it.
If they dropped that issue completely out, replaced it with more tax cuts , they would garner a lot more support.

Political goals shouldn't be a "market".

I prefer parties to be upfront about what they would like to achieve once they are in power. If the National Party are anti abortion on any grounds, then they should declare that and live or die by their political positions.

That being said, they'd be no different to any other party in offering a slight of hand manifesto, choosing to leave off a few things here and there, so they could "market" their ideas in an underhanded way.

They still wouldn't gain much ground in any case. They made their play recently and came up laughably empty handed. The Irish public see them as extremists and that isn't going to change much in the next 10 or so years. Hiding a few of their ultimate goals here and there isn't going to matter.

Acosta wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/news/protester-charged-with-brandishing-national-flag-as-a-weapon-40106707.html

What a loser.

Sand wrote: »

Someone calls themselves Izzy Kamikaze? Yeah, that is pretty embarrassing.

You know, I was just thinking that.

Have no interest in the National Party or their agenda. However, from what I’ve seen of that Izzy Kamikaze character, she’s hardly an aspirational figure herself.

A late 50s / early 60s woman whose career is seemingly a professional ‘activist’, who appears to have very little going for her, in any facet of life. I won’t be cruel and brand her a ‘loser’, but certainly not somebody many would choose to emulate.

GT89 wrote: »

No it's run by Ben Scallan who ran the last general election for the Irish Freedom Party

Is he ethnically of African origin?

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Can't they both be losers?

That’s the point. Neither party here is particularly edifying. Like I said, they represent the unattractive extremes at both ends of the spectrum.

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

She was the victim here , why did you dedicate so many words to insulting her?

The National Party guy is a 29 year old loser on disability, who has likely never worked a day in his life. He spends his free time attending niche demonstrations that promote an extremist ideology and thinks it’s acceptable to clobber an elderly woman with a plank. He’s clearly a low-IQ idiot, with little to offer society.

That’s the point I’ve been making. Both parties in this scenario are grotesque manifestations of the extreme end of the political spectrum. Thankfully, mainstream society perceives both to be equally unappealing and most crucially, unelectable.

.anon. wrote: »

One's a social care worker, who also participates in left-wing activism. The other... well, I don't know. I somehow doubt he offers anything productive to society when he's not hitting middle-aged women over the head, but I could be wrong. You can disagree with someone's politics without wrongly viewing them as a loser.

You are right I know nothing of either person. I think both the far left and far right are both moronic and equally as dangerous to this country in their current guises.

Hamachi wrote: »

The National Party guy is a 29 year old loser on disability, who has likely never worked a day in his life. He spends his free time attending niche demonstrations that promote an extremist ideology and thinks it’s acceptable to clobber an elderly woman with a plank. He’s clearly a low-IQ idiot, with little to offer society.

That’s the point I’ve been making. Both parties in this scenario are grotesque manifestations of the extreme end of the political spectrum. Thankfully, mainstream society perceives both to be equally unappealing and most crucially, unelectable.

Thanks for clearing that up , she deserved it so ?

Hamachi wrote: »

That’s the point I’ve been making. Both parties in this scenario are grotesque manifestations of the extreme end of the political spectrum. Thankfully, mainstream society perceives both to be equally unappealing and most crucially, unelectable.

Whats grotesque about protesting against people who are racist, homophobic, transphophic, anti semitic and violent? That woman has been active in campaigning for LGBT rights for decades, as well as doing a lot of work on the two recent referendums.
She also received plenty of sympathy and support from ''mainstream society'' after this incident.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Absolutely, the disgusting level of cover up in this specific instance is insane, its not like izzy was on her way to the shops and was randomly attacked. She was an active participant in a violent far left counter demonstration and threw herself right in to the middle of an angry mob.

This just not justify their response at all but she is not the angelic innocent victim in this that the far left portray

Seriously? Two women and a teenage boy.