What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

briany · 17-02-2021 02:44PM

yagan wrote: »

Trump will attack the GOP from now on because he needs total alignment to have a hope at a rerun, or to launch Eric.

Oh, here's hoping. Here would be that launch in gif form.

MisterAnarchy · 17-02-2021 02:45PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Yeah and Fox News argued in court that no one should expect that Tucker Carlson is reporting the news.

One of these stations is the most watch cable news network, which is it?

Fox News is inherently biased, I'm not denying that.

I'm saying that CNN is also biased, its not objective.

Posting links from Foxnews doesn't credit one.. but discredits one. Fox news is a Far Right propaganda channel. Just like any other of the Murdoch media

But quoting CNN is perfectly fine is it ?

I could have quoted other links just as easily, non Fox News, the story would still be the same.

Tell me how · 17-02-2021 02:48PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Fox News is inherently biased, I'm not denying that.

I'm saying that CNN is also biased, its not objective.

But quoting CNN is perfectly fine is it ?

I could have quoted other links just as easily, non Fox News, the story would still be the same.

Depends on what the link is. Is it reporting on something? Or is it an opinion piece. Note the vast majority of what Fox push on their social channels are the latter.

There were times when people were complaining about CNN showing Trump in a bad light when literally all they did was stream his press conference.

duploelabs · 17-02-2021 02:51PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/415669-larry-king-hits-cnn-stopped-doing-news-to-focus-on-trump

CNN and their parent company (Warner/At&t) only care about ratings and the policy that they decided was initially to give Trump a huge platform and huge publicity as they never believed he'd actually win the election.
That later turned to a negative agenda against Trump.
The Project Veritas whistleblower leaks show CNN's true agenda.
The most trusted name in news, yeah right.

News flash, every news agency (except maybe pbs) are commercially driven

MisterAnarchy · 17-02-2021 02:56PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Depends on what the link is. Is it reporting on something? Or is it an opinion piece. Note the vast majority of what Fox push on their social channels are the latter.

There were times when people were complaining about CNN showing Trump in a bad light when literally all they did was stream his press conference.

Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

Tell me how · 17-02-2021 02:58PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

I don't know. I don't watch them.

17-02-2021 03:14PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

For someone who said it's not good good to have a lot of hate for anything, you sure do have a lot of hate for CNN.

Quin_Dub · 17-02-2021 03:15PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

No they aren't really , although I'd submit that they are quite a bit more objective than their Fox News counterparts.

The other issue is the mix of Opinion vs. News - Fox wildly over-indexes on Opinion and they have further doubled down on that in recent weeks with their line up changes.

Beyond a few hours in the middle of the day , it's almost impossible to get fact based "hard news" on Fox.

None of them are anywhere close to neutral , but without question there are degrees of partisanship and Fox are way out on their own on that front.

briany · 17-02-2021 03:37PM

I wonder how many people talking s**t about CNN in America are the same ones tuning into OANN, i.e. the news channel which at one point claimed that the 'real' election results had Trump at 410 electoral votes.

It always makes me laugh the way some of these people go, "Don't watch CNN, BBC, RTE news.", and you go, "Oh, so where should one be getting their unbiased news from?", and the answer is, "Oh, well [flaming right-wing news site], and of course some nutter on Facebook posting unverified rumour and conspiracy theory."

Talk about going from the frying pan into the fire... Some brass neck to be talking about 'fake news'.

duploelabs · 17-02-2021 03:40PM

briany wrote: »

I wonder how many people talking s**t about CNN in America are the same ones tuning into OANN, i.e. the news channel which at one point claimed that the 'real' election results had Trump at 410 electoral votes.

It always makes me laugh the way some of these people go, "Don't watch CNN, BBC, RTE news.", and you go, "Oh, so where should one be getting their unbiased news from?", and the answer is, "Oh, well [flaming right-wing news site], and of course some nutter on Facebook posting unverified rumour and conspiracy theory."

Talk about going from the frying pan into the fire... Some brass neck to be talking about 'fake news'.

For some of them, I honestly don't think they know the difference or are aware of their own cognitive bias.
Those people now want their news (and their politics) dramatic and WWEish and will go to the sources that provide them that dopamine

extra gravy · 17-02-2021 03:40PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1361846831374884865?s=19

I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.

MisterAnarchy · 17-02-2021 03:52PM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1361846831374884865?s=19

I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.

I never said that they did.

briany · 17-02-2021 03:55PM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1361846831374884865?s=19

I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.

At what point does that kind of spiel become defamation?

Tippex · 17-02-2021 03:55PM

extra gravy wrote: »

I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.

Wow I laughed at tucker on this.

duploelabs · 17-02-2021 04:01PM

briany wrote: »

At what point does that kind of spiel become defamation?

Until the point when Fox hold up their previous settlement stating that tucker's show is just entertainment and no one of sound mind should take it literally, or was that Sean Hannity

duploelabs · 17-02-2021 04:03PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/415669-larry-king-hits-cnn-stopped-doing-news-to-focus-on-trump

CNN and their parent company (Warner/At&t) only care about ratings and the policy that they decided was initially to give Trump a huge platform and huge publicity as they never believed he'd actually win the election.
That later turned to a negative agenda against Trump.
The Project Veritas whistleblower leaks show CNN's true agenda.
The most trusted name in news, yeah right.

They same far-right project veritas that have been kicked off twitter for Doxing?
https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/12/22279707/twitter-project-veritas-suspension-privacy-violations

briany · 17-02-2021 04:06PM

duploelabs wrote: »

Until the point when Fox hold up their previous settlement stating that tucker's show is just entertainment and no one of sound mind should take it literally, or was that Sean Hannity

Ah well, at least the channel was forced to back-handedly insult a large swathe of its viewership.

Seeing as they were forced to admit that, maybe they could put it as a disclaimer at the start of Carlson and Hannity's shows.

MisterAnarchy · 17-02-2021 04:12PM

duploelabs wrote: »

They same far-right project veritas that have been kicked off twitter for Doxing?
https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/12/22279707/twitter-project-veritas-suspension-privacy-violations

I dont see how that is relevant.

Project Veritas released tapes of CNN’s morning briefing calls with CEO Zucker and other staff members that were recorded over a number of months.
Its their own words.

Penn · 17-02-2021 05:24PM

One of Trump's most public supporters, Rush Limbaugh, has passed from his illnesses.

everlast75 · 17-02-2021 05:54PM

Penn wrote: »

One of Trump's most public supporters, Rush Limbaugh, has passed from his illnesses.

My mam always said "if you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all", so.........

frag420 · 17-02-2021 05:56PM

Penn wrote: »

One of Trump's most public supporters, Rush Limbaugh, has passed from his illnesses.

No loss, terrible human!

frag420 · 17-02-2021 05:57PM

everlast75 wrote: »

My mam always said "if you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all", so.........

Just a pity Limbaugh didn’t adhere to that view too...

MadYaker · 17-02-2021 06:07PM

everlast75 wrote: »

My mam always said "if you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all", so.........

I’ve never understood why we should pretend people weren’t pricks just because they’ve croaked.

magma69 · 17-02-2021 06:21PM

It's been a tough time lately to be a poor-people-hating bigot.

17-02-2021 06:40PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I dont see how that is relevant.

Project Veritas released tapes of CNN’s morning briefing calls with CEO Zucker and other staff members that were recorded over a number of months.
Its their own words.

Ah yes, the reputable Project Veritas that regularly misrepresent and alter recording to push a particular agenda....

Faugheen · 17-02-2021 06:49PM

MadYaker wrote: »

I’ve never understood why we should pretend people weren’t pricks just because they’ve croaked.

Yep. He used to name out gay people who died from AIDS accompanied by hooter horns and bells sound effects.

A truly abhorrent human being. Deserves zero respect just because he has died.

extra gravy · 17-02-2021 06:55PM

“I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”

― Mark Twain

rossie1977 · 17-02-2021 07:01PM

Thing with Republicans is they have all but abandoned policy at this stage. Trump didn't run on a single policy past election instead focusing on talking about 'far left' taking over America and other nonsense.

Right wingers are now obsessed with censorship and 'wokism'. They see it everywhere. Covid was just a tool of the 'far left' to hurt Trump.. Its beyond crazy at this stage.

Another reason I don't see a Republican president for at least a decade. Democrats are at least trying to tackle the issues that ordinary people are dealing with, Republicans especially these newly elected ones are just there to disrupt.

namloc1980 · 17-02-2021 07:05PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Thing with Republicans is they have all but abandoned policy at this stage. Trump didn't run on a single policy past election instead focusing on talking about 'far left' taking over America and other nonsense.

Right wingers are now obsessed with censorship and 'wokism'. They see it everywhere. Covid was just a tool of the 'far left' to hurt Trump.. Its beyond crazy at this stage.

Another reason I don't see a Republican president for at least a decade. Democrats are at least trying to tackle the issues that ordinary people are dealing with, Republicans especially these newly elected ones are just there to disrupt.

The Republican Party didn't present any policy platform to voters for the 2020 election besides get Trump elected and stick it to the libs. They stand for nothing positive.

duploelabs · 17-02-2021 07:37PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I dont see how that is relevant.

Project Veritas released tapes of CNN’s morning briefing calls with CEO Zucker and other staff members that were recorded over a number of months.
Its their own words.

If a 'news agency' can't follow the rules of twitter then I hold little faith in them holding on to any journalistic integrity elsewhere

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