Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

micar · 07-02-2021 04:44PM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I'd report that!
It wouldn't surprise me if they deliberately were punishing you not being on the (crappy) cycle path.

VW Golf.....not surprised..... driven by a lot of young lads.

ED E · 07-02-2021 05:47PM

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Let me know if this should be with traffic watch

Wouldnt be surprised if the Gardai ask you why you werent on the cycle lane and dismiss you. Try anyways but it seems like a few stations in that area are totally useless shower, even by AGS' woeful standards.

07Lapierre · 07-02-2021 06:18PM

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Let me know if this should be with traffic watch or just count it as another driver not caring and have to get past as they are more important than safely passing.

Sorry about bad language but caught me on the hop, I normally keep an eye out in my mirror.

11LD1524 blue golf
Blue golf decides to pass me in a tight spot with oncoming traffic so has to squeeze ontop of me. I could of touched his car with my hand no problem but concentrated on keeping straight. They didn't seem to acknowledge me at all. I cycle at around 30kph so I don't use shared path/cycle lane as it stops/starts and people walk/run on it. This was on way out of balbriggan on daily cycle - let me know should I report it?

A classic example of bad cycling infrastructure being worse than no cycling infrastructure!
If that cycle lane was just a regular pavement, I think any Guard would have to agree that the motorists was a muppet.

breezy1985 · 08-02-2021 09:07AM

micar wrote: »

VW Golf.....not surprised..... driven by a lot of young lads.

And young lads just like cyclists should a be lumped in together and judged as one person

VonLuck · 08-02-2021 09:44AM

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Blue golf decides to pass me in a tight spot with oncoming traffic so has to squeeze ontop of me. I could of touched his car with my hand no problem but concentrated on keeping straight. They didn't seem to acknowledge me at all. I cycle at around 30kph so I don't use shared path/cycle lane as it stops/starts and people walk/run on it. This was on way out of balbriggan on daily cycle - let me know should I report it?

I'm always torn on these situations. Yes, the car was entirely in the wrong, but there also was a usable cycle lane beside you. I say 'usable' because I get that there are issues with it being a shared path/cycle lane in parts and you go at 30kmph, but there could be the argument to go slower.

Unfortunately it's a case of being damned if you do, damned if you don't. Why don't local authorities prevent these from being constructed? Do they not know of the issues associated with them?

breezy1985 · 08-02-2021 11:16AM

VonLuck wrote: »

I'm always torn on these situations. Yes, the car was entirely in the wrong, but there also was a usable cycle lane beside you. I say 'usable' because I get that there are issues with it being a shared path/cycle lane in parts and you go at 30kmph, but there could be the argument to go slower.

Unfortunately it's a case of being damned if you do, damned if you don't. Why don't local authorities prevent these from being constructed? Do they not know of the issues associated with them?

Why should a cyclist who can safely travel at 30kph slow down. Do cyclists not have the right to commute to work a quickly as possible within the legal limits like a car can.

I often use the road in similar situations because of the many near crashes or abuse I get from idiot pedestrians who can't navigate a path that is colour coded for them

doughef · 08-02-2021 11:23AM

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Let me know if this should be with traffic watch or just count it as another driver not caring and have to get past as they are more important than safely passing.

Sorry about bad language but caught me on the hop, I normally keep an eye out in my mirror.

https://youtu.be/Tth0Y3Pr770

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tth0Y3Pr770

11LD1524 blue golf
Blue golf decides to pass me in a tight spot with oncoming traffic so has to squeeze ontop of me. I could of touched his car with my hand no problem but concentrated on keeping straight. They didn't seem to acknowledge me at all. I cycle at around 30kph so I don't use shared path/cycle lane as it stops/starts and people walk/run on it. This was on way out of balbriggan on daily cycle - let me know should I report it?

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

a_squirrelman · 08-02-2021 11:25AM

doughef wrote: »

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

It's his fault that that car drove within a whisker of him? Hmmm.

doughef · 08-02-2021 11:27AM

a_squirrelman wrote: »

It's his fault that that car drove within a whisker of him? Hmmm.

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

breezy1985 · 08-02-2021 11:27AM

a_squirrelman wrote: »

It's his fault that that car drove within a whisker of him? Hmmm.

Don't bother. This mad gas edgelord was around a few months back trying all this nonsense on this thread. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously

doughef · 08-02-2021 11:28AM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Don't bother. This mad gas edgelord was around a few months back trying all this nonsense on this thread. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously

I’m quite genuine. Just because you don’t like the truth.

Simple fact is the guy chose to ignore the cycle land and place himself in harms way.

(Waits for ban)

Hurrache · 08-02-2021 11:38AM

doughef wrote: »

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

Have you a driving licence? You shouldn't if you do.

07Lapierre · 08-02-2021 11:39AM

doughef wrote: »

100% Not your fault. Cycle lane path was there but you chose to ignore to use the other cycle lane

FYP

AndrewJRenko · 08-02-2021 11:42AM

doughef wrote: »

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

The M1 motorway is there, but the driver chose to ignore it. 100% the driver's fault.

doughef wrote: »

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

Try reading up on the laws around cycle lanes and have another go.

07Lapierre · 08-02-2021 11:43AM

doughef wrote: »

(Waits for ban)

Ban from Boards.ie or Ban from driving? (or both)

CramCycle · 08-02-2021 11:45AM

doughef wrote: »

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

100%, I once seen a jogger in the bike lane rather than on the footpath so I skimmed him and effectively knocked him over because of this infraction. A lot of people seem to forget on this forum that any perceived sleight or perceived breach of the rules can be met with what can only be described as vigilante style justice. Also that, said justice can have consequences far more severe than the initial perceived crime would have ever possibly caused (and by that I mean none). Just ignore the other posters doughef, completely the cyclists fault and completely justified.

breezy1985 · 08-02-2021 11:56AM

Weepsie wrote: »

I kick the wing mirrors off any private vehicle in bus lanes during operational hours. It's their own fault given they're not supposed to be there :rolleyes:

I do kinda wish the buses would do this as they pass

AndrewJRenko · 08-02-2021 12:00PM

doughef wrote: »

.

(Waits for ban)

Are you waiting to be banned a second time from the thread?

a_squirrelman · 08-02-2021 12:02PM

doughef wrote: »

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

So because you think he shouldn't have been there then it's his fault the driver did that?

He's perfectly entitled to be on the road, even though there is a cycle path. But you know that already.

a_squirrelman · 08-02-2021 12:05PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Don't bother. This mad gas edgelord was around a few months back trying all this nonsense on this thread. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously

Yeah I replied again before seeing all your replies.

The J Stands for Jay · 08-02-2021 12:07PM

doughef wrote: »

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

Should we take the same attitude to leaner drivers? There's perfectly good empty industrial estates to practice in.

VonLuck · 08-02-2021 12:20PM

buffalo wrote: »

When explaining these sort of situations, I sometimes compare it to taking the motorway instead of the old N road that twists and turns and goes through every village and town. Sure the N road is 'usable', but why should somebody be damned for choosing the faster and safer* route?

*That's safer assuming nobody deliberately makes it otherwise, as above.

I personally would feel safer in the cycle lane, but that's just my own feeling on the situation.

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Regardless where a cyclist should be, there is no excuse for a dangerous overtake

Where did I say there was an excuse for the dangerous overtake? I explicitly said the driver was in the wrong!

breezy1985 wrote: »

Why should a cyclist who can safely travel at 30kph slow down. Do cyclists not have the right to commute to work a quickly as possible within the legal limits like a car can.

I often use the road in similar situations because of the many near crashes or abuse I get from idiot pedestrians who can't navigate a path that is colour coded for them

They totally have the right, but that won't stop drivers being pissed off as a result. You might think "so what", but an angry driver is more likely to perform risky manoeuvres like in the video. I'd prefer to be alive instead of right.

kennethsmyth · 08-02-2021 12:34PM

To all those who think I should be in the cycle lane (that started 2 meters prior to the video by the way).
1. I am cycling a pedalec (25kph assist limit) which is much heavier than a normal bicycle and not suitable for any shared cycle path unless wide.
2. I normally cycle at 30kph so cars don’t just come upon me as such.
3. This is a 50kph zone.
4. The cycle path stops and starts as you can see it’s in red first then forms part of the path.
5. The comment on rather being alive than right is a complete cop out. I cycle defensively and will take the central line when going through roundabouts and tight areas etc. I am in no danger on the road and had completed a 20km (within 5km) without issue. Simply this driver is the same as anyone who wants to commit a criminal act, they will still do it regardless. An ahole is an ahole no matter where they are.

07Lapierre · 08-02-2021 01:05PM

VonLuck wrote: »

I'd prefer to be alive instead of right.

Me too. That's why i cycle at least a meter out from the Kerb at all times.
Its why i rarely use cycle paths as they usually end abruptly and force you out into the path of traffic (or into the drivers blind spot)
Its why, when cycling with others, we always cycle two abreast.
Its why, when approaching a traffic Island i "Take the lane".
Its why I sometimes "Jump" a red light (to get a head start on the muppets behind me in cars).

The things we have to do to stay alive eh?

doughef · 08-02-2021 01:05PM

kennethsmyth wrote: »

To all those who think I should be in the cycle lane (that started 2 meters prior to the video by the way).
1. I am cycling a pedalec (25kph assist limit) which is much heavier than a normal bicycle and not suitable for any shared cycle path unless wide.
2. I normally cycle at 30kph so cars don’t just come upon me as such.
3. This is a 50kph zone.
4. The cycle path stops and starts as you can see it’s in red first then forms part of the path.
5. The comment on rather being alive than right is a complete cop out. I cycle defensively and will take the central line when going through roundabouts and tight areas etc. I am in no danger on the road and had completed a 20km (within 5km) without issue. Simply this driver is the same as anyone who wants to commit a criminal act, they will still do it regardless. An ahole is an ahole no matter where they are.

You fly boys craic me up !!

Just obey the rules / be where your meant to be and all will be ok.
We can’t pick and chose which rules apply to us.

Stay safe

kennethsmyth · 08-02-2021 01:20PM

doughef wrote: »

You fly boys craic me up !!

Just obey the rules / be where your meant to be and all will be ok.
We can’t pick and chose which rules apply to us.

Stay safe

Where do I state anything that’s illegal , I abide by all the rules of the road and stop at all red lights etc.

I also drive by the way as I’m in a rural area, and need to be on lookout for persons on horses also when going around bends etc.

I am lit up like a Christmas tree on my bike with red hi vis coat, lupine front light, a white flasher, rear supernova light, red flasher and rear reflector. You cannot help but see me, I do this as I regularly cycle at night but also fun the lights during the day.

Cycles are considered vehicles on the road and are allowed “take the lane” when necessary. If they do wished they could just cycle the whole time in the center of the lane however we don’t and I don’t recommend that. I’m courteous to otter road users including cars. I will not however cycle in the gutter - it’s dangerous for more than one reason. Do you drive your car purposely over potholes? I don’t, so why would you think that a cycle could handle them better. In this video I was positioned on the left if the lane approximately 2 ft from kerb.

I don’t pick any if the rules, I abide by all so what the hell arr you on about?

doughef · 08-02-2021 01:22PM

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Where do I state anything that’s illegal , I abide by all the rules of the road and stop at all red lights etc.

I also drive by the way as I’m in a rural area, and need to be on lookout for persons on horses also when going around bends etc.

I am lit up like a Christmas tree on my bike with red hi vis coat, lupine front light, a white flasher, rear supernova light, red flasher and rear reflector. You cannot help but see me, I do this as I regularly cycle at night but also fun the lights during the day.

Cycles are considered vehicles on the road and are allowed “take the lane” when necessary. If they do wished they could just cycle the whole time in the center of the lane however we don’t and I don’t recommend that. I’m courteous to otter road users including cars. I will not however cycle in the gutter - it’s dangerous for more than one reason. Do you drive your car purposely over potholes? I don’t, so why would you think that a cycle could handle them better. In this video I was positioned on the left if the lane approximately 2 ft from kerb.

I don’t pick any if the rules, I abide by all so what the hell arr you on about?

Stay safe bro - maybe the cycle lane on that road would be a good idea next time.

kennethsmyth · 08-02-2021 01:31PM

doughef wrote: »

Stay safe bro - maybe the cycle lane on that road would be a good idea next time.

No it’s not, get used to cycles etc being on the roads as there will be a lot more of them after this lockdown.

Cyclists be courteous to drivers.
Drivers look out for cyclists and pass when safe.

Thanks

Wildly Boaring · 08-02-2021 01:46PM

Meeting a very large Class and trailer here. He was on the white line.

Middle aged man in white crossover (Renault?) managed to squeeze between me and tractor.

I was in left wheel track in the drops. Really wasn't expecting a car to squeeze through right when meeting the tractor.

VonLuck · 08-02-2021 03:04PM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Point taken but your post was suggesting that the cyclist should be going slower and you refer to the cycle path beside the OP. Neither of which are really relevant in terms of a prick driver putting someone in danger.

Again, there's not much you can do about bad drivers on the road. You just need to look out for yourself and avoid danger if you can.

kennethsmyth wrote: »

5. The comment on rather being alive than right is a complete cop out. I cycle defensively and will take the central line when going through roundabouts and tight areas etc. I am in no danger on the road and had completed a 20km (within 5km) without issue. Simply this driver is the same as anyone who wants to commit a criminal act, they will still do it regardless. An ahole is an ahole no matter where they are.

You've just proven my point! You can cycle defensively, take the central line etc. and be completely in the right, but there's nothing you can do about dangerous drivers.

Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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