Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

yerrahbah · 02-02-2021 11:52AM

What I'd pick

Healy
Kelleher
Porter
Ryan
Beirne
CJ
Connors
Doris
JGP
Sexton
Lowe
Henshaw
Ringrose
Larmour
Keenan

What I think AF will pick

Healy
Herring
Porter
Henderson
Ryan
CJ
POM
Doris
Murray
Sexton
Earls
Henshaw
Ringrose
Larmour
Keenan

Brief_Lives · 02-02-2021 12:16PM

Here fishy fishy fishy

UAEguy2020 · 02-02-2021 12:30PM

With POC now involved with the line-outs we might see new variations in the pack like Kelleher at 2 for instance. I think the backline picks itself with the only question being weather Farrell goes with Lowe or Earls.

mfceiling · 02-02-2021 01:06PM

Doris and Roux gone back to their provinces for further medical assessment.

Coombes and Baird called into camp.

The Inbetween is mine · 02-02-2021 01:09PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Doris and Roux gone back to their provinces for further medical assessment.

Coombes and Baird called into camp.

Just saw that....good for both of the youngsters to get a taste of the national squad, even if it's just for a week... they'll both be in.the setup on merit very soon imo

theVersatile · 02-02-2021 01:10PM

That opens up things in the back row. Ruddock straight in? POM back to six with Connors or VDF at seven? Few things you could do.

The Inbetween is mine · 02-02-2021 01:14PM

theVersatile wrote: »

That opens up things in the back row. Ruddock straight in? POM back to six with Connors or VDF at seven? Few things you could do.

Stander, POM, Coombes... there's your dream team right there!

Buer · 02-02-2021 01:15PM

I would imagine that VDF comes straight in. Connors was getting the nod in the autumn but I haven't seen enough from him since then to warrant continued selection there.

As good as Ruddock has been in recent months, I just don't think he's a test level player at the top end in terms of dynamism. I'd have no complaints if he does get the nod though as he has really earned it.

I would think our back row would really lack mobility with a Stander, POM and Ruddock selection.

Wegians89 · 02-02-2021 01:18PM

Think that’ll reshape the back row completely, something like ruddock, vdf, stander with pom on the bench

sydthebeat · 02-02-2021 01:18PM

Doris would be a huge loss

opens it up for a POM, Connors, CJ back row but would very much worry about the lack of dynamic carrying....

as much as id love to see Ruddock come in, i think the best he can hope for is a 20 shirt.

wales will most likely be wainwright, tipuric and faletau

UAEguy2020 · 02-02-2021 01:20PM

I would pick Will Connors at 7 and move POM to 6. One concern that has been eased somewhat is we now have a natural 7 on the field which was something I worried about. I rather VDF off the bench for impact.

Former Former Former · 02-02-2021 01:59PM

Slightly worrying that both lads have been sent back to their provinces which isn't a great omen for their chances of being fit for the France game.

TRC10 · 02-02-2021 02:02PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Doris and Roux gone back to their provinces for further medical assessment.

Coombes and Baird called into camp.

I just wonder does this open the door for Beirne to come in at 6 with Henderson at lock. Having Henderson there would compensate for the loss of a ball carrier and lineout jumper. I like Beirne at 6 as it frees him up to be extra destructive and involved around the park without the responsibilities of lock duties. This would be my preferred option.

4-Henderson
5-Ryan
6-Beirne
7-O'Mahony
8-Stander

awec · 02-02-2021 02:05PM

Former Former Former wrote: »

Slightly worrying that both lads have been sent back to their provinces which isn't a great omen for their chances of being fit for the France game.

Could be the entire tournament. If they were going to be fit any time soon they'd rehab with Ireland.

Jump_In_Jack · 02-02-2021 02:11PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Doris would be a huge loss

opens it up for a POM, Connors, CJ back row but would very much worry about the lack of dynamic carrying....

as much as id love to see Ruddock come in, i think the best he can hope for is a 20 shirt.

wales will most likely be wainwright, tipuric and faletau

Lydiate ahead of Wainwright no?

bayern · 02-02-2021 02:27PM

Former Former Former wrote: »

Slightly worrying that both lads have been sent back to their provinces which isn't a great omen for their chances of being fit for the France game.

Doris could be done for the season.

OneLungDavy · 02-02-2021 02:41PM

TRC10 wrote: »

I just wonder does this open the door for Beirne to come in at 6 with Henderson at lock. Having Henderson there would compensate for the loss of a ball carrier and lineout jumper. I like Beirne at 6 as it frees him up to be extra destructive and involved around the park without the responsibilities of lock duties. This would be my preferred option.

4-Henderson
5-Ryan
6-Beirne
7-O'Mahony
8-Stander

This is what I'd go for too. It would be crazy to replace Dorris, our primary ball carrier with VDF/Connors.

But there's a question regarding Henderson match fitness.

02-02-2021 02:59PM

I'd have thought this was ruddock straight into the 15 no?

UAEguy2020 · 02-02-2021 03:04PM

In the last 6 games Connors has been in the 23 5 times which would indicate to me he is slightly ahead of VDF in Farrell’s mind, he’s also the best 7 at playing the role Farrell wants his 7 to play so I think he edges it for now.

UAEguy2020 · 02-02-2021 03:08PM

Hopefully Doris going back to Leinster is precautionary as their team of doctors will know what’s best for him, would be a huge loss if he was out for the rest of the tournament. Was our best player over the autumn period.

Thrashssacre · 02-02-2021 03:26PM

Had dorris in my fantasy team as well.... Hope hes back fighting fit soon, cant be taking chances with this kind of thing.

The Inbetween is mine · 02-02-2021 03:30PM

Madison Clumsy Crater wrote: »

I'd have thought this was ruddock straight into the 15 no?

You're right..no

Former Former Former · 02-02-2021 03:34PM

Madison Clumsy Crater wrote: »

I'd have thought this was ruddock straight into the 15 no?

Would be a big surprise given his lack of favour the last few years.

Far more likely that VDF comes back in at 7 and POM moves back over to 6.

Would be nice to have a bit of ballast with Ruddock though.

02-02-2021 03:40PM

Former Former Former wrote: »

Would be a big surprise given his lack of favour the last few years.

Far more likely that VDF comes back in at 7 and POM moves back over to 6.

Would be nice to have a bit of ballast with Ruddock though.

My thinking was Farrell has shown a like of ballast and ruddock's been in better form than he has been for some time. I'd like to see him in over vdf or connors tbh

yerrahbah · 02-02-2021 03:52PM

Is Conan injured?

Jump_In_Jack · 02-02-2021 03:54PM

yerrahbah wrote: »

Is Conan injured?

Don't think so, he won player of the match at the weekend.

Buer · 02-02-2021 03:56PM

yerrahbah wrote: »

Is Conan injured?

Surprisingly not. He just hasn't had a significant amount of game time and, when he has, he hasn't looked like the player he was.

Last weekend was by far his best showing since the RWC (not that there have been many) but it comes too late to get back into the squad.

Coombes has been playing well and consistently. He has earned his call up.

Dubinusa · 02-02-2021 04:08PM

I'd go with Ruddock, Pom and Stander. Ruddock adds ballast and both he and Stander would carry a lot of ball. VDF on the bench. I rate VDF higher than Connors. I think he's a more complete player.
I would like to see a Beirne, VDF and Stander back row also. Losing Doris is tough. He's a fine player and his concussion issues must dealt with properly. It is worrying that he's having these problems. He's had a couple of concussion issues over the last year.

El_Duderino 09 · 02-02-2021 04:15PM

Dubinusa wrote: »

I'd go with Ruddock, Pom and Stander. Ruddock adds ballast and both he and Stander would carry a lot of ball. VDF on the bench. I rate VDF higher than Connors. I think he's a more complete player.
I would like to see a Beirne, VDF and Stander back row also. Losing Doris is tough. He's a fine player and his concussion issues must dealt with properly. It is worrying that he's having these problems. He's had a couple of concussion issues over the last year.

It might depend on the opposition. France and England will be bigger, more physical teams and it might make sense to have add ballast against them in the form of Ruddock. A more mobile back row with Bernie, VDF or Connors might be a better fit in the Wales Match.

thomond2006 · 02-02-2021 05:25PM

Start POC.

Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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