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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,663 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    dickface wrote: »
    He can set a stop loss after buying limiting his downside

    Yeah as other pointed out, the big moves in AMC/GME have been outside of trading hours, so stop loss won't be much use


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭cronos


    Fruks wrote: »
    There is another problem which can occur which no one is mentioning and which is fairly plausible in the current volatility. Say you bought at 325 at the close on Friday and set a stop loss at 300 - grand you think to yourself, can’t lose anything more than 25 per share. However, if GME were to gap down in pretrading and open at, say, 150, your stop loss will trigger but the sale will obviously go through at market price - 150. For anyone new to this who thinks that setting a stop loss means you will definitely get that price in a worst case scenario just be aware that this assumption isn’t true.

    This is very important for people to know.

    To be honest I think it's a bit of a scam that only certain platforms can do pre trading and post trading hours. Put's you at a massive disadvantage if dealing with high volatility products.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭shakedown


    Degiro have put sell restrictions in place on AMC and GME for that very reason. You can only place limit sell or stop limit orders, as opposed to stop loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,663 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Bit of an obscure one, and a real moonshot, KR1 PLC, market cap $60mn

    They're a company involved in DeFi, which is essentially the next step of Bitcoin, building financial systems that are based on crypto rather than normal currencies. After last week's shenanegins with the Fed getting involved in Robinhood, I can see this getting more mainstream. The company is a small operations, out of Isle of Man, they essentially are consultants that help out setting up systems, but they get equity in the systems they setup so you're buying a stake in those. They also hold a lot of obscure crypto so as those prices rise, you get a chunk of those too. You can see a list of what they're invested in here
    https://www.kryptonite1.co/investments

    This is a real longshot, one to stash in the portfolio and not to look at for a year or so. It only trades on some obscure exchanges, neither of which are on Degiro. In the UK, it's on the Aquis exchange under KR1, in Stuttgart it's on the Boirse exchange under K4H (you can buy this on Interactive Brokers). It was trading about 20c a share at Christmas, currently about 60c. I reckon it gets a run while this SEC investigation goes on, and if it goes for Nasdaq listing it would be a nice boost too.

    I bought in about 2 weeks back at 50c


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't understand the I'm putting in X amount of money into this just to be part of "it" view point. Strange. The market has no feelings.

    Most of the "Hold" "Don't Sell!!!" types couldn't give two hoots about sticking it to the 'man'
    They just want to protect their onvestment and maximise their own exit point.

    This isn't tearing down the Berlin Wall. Simply a gamble. Short trading isn't going to be banned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    I don't understand the I'm putting in X amount of money into this just to be part of "it" view point. Strange. The market has no feelings.

    Most of the "Hold" "Don't Sell!!!" types couldn't give two hoots about sticking it to the 'man'
    They just want to protect their onvestment and maximise their own exit point.

    This isn't tearing down the Berlin Wall. Simply a gamble. Short trading isn't going to be banned.

    You need the hype and people to think they are sticking it to Wall Street to drive price up....Wall Street is making a fortune and laughing at everyone in this ‘movement’ as long as the stock is moving (up or down) they are making money. Retail traders buying with a delay versus the algo computers that trade in mili-seconds.


  • Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't understand the I'm putting in X amount of money into this just to be part of "it" view point. Strange. The market has no feelings.

    Most of the "Hold" "Don't Sell!!!" types couldn't give two hoots about sticking it to the 'man'
    They just want to protect their onvestment and maximise their own exit point.

    This isn't tearing down the Berlin Wall. Simply a gamble. Short trading isn't going to be banned.

    I'm bored and I have more money than I need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    clonesbabe wrote: »
    Hi folks. Thinking of buying about 2000 euro worth of gme on monday via revolut as I haven't bought shares/stocks before and know nothing about it. I could spend more but that's really all I would be willing to lose. At what point should I be looking to sell.

    2k is a crazy amount to risk IMO , 200 euro would be more than enough as this thing could play out anytime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    I'm bored and I have more money than I need.

    Anyone that is planning on buying a Ferrari next week with the money they make from this once in a life time opportunity can do so here
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/RASTAR-Ferrari-Drifting-LaFerrari-Control/dp/B07CR7XJQG/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=ferrari&qid=1612104364&sprefix=ferra&sr=8-12


  • Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone that is planning on buying a Ferrari next week with the money they make from this once in a life time opportunity can do so here
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/RASTAR-Ferrari-Drifting-LaFerrari-Control/dp/B07CR7XJQG/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=ferrari&qid=1612104364&sprefix=ferra&sr=8-12

    Eh, ok? Great post.


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  • Posts: 737 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't understand the I'm putting in X amount of money into this just to be part of "it" view point. Strange. The market has no feelings.

    Most of the "Hold" "Don't Sell!!!" types couldn't give two hoots about sticking it to the 'man'
    They just want to protect their onvestment and maximise their own exit point.

    This isn't tearing down the Berlin Wall. Simply a gamble. Short trading isn't going to be banned.
    It's a lockdown and there's nothing else to do. Whatever anyone says it is a bit exciting.

    I can totally understand putting a few quid in and deciding to hold for the fun of it, that is what I have done. That said, anyone who regards this as anything other than a gamble, akin to throwing a few quid on an outsider in a horse race, that you are likely to lose, is, in my opinion, foolish.

    If you have thrown money into this that the loss of which will result in a material or mental impact on you beyond that which you would suffer when your favorite football team which you have bet on loses, you should try and exit at a profit tomorrow (if possible) and reduce your holding to a level you are comfortable with.


  • Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a lockdown and there's nothing else to do. Whatever anyone says it is a bit exciting.

    I can totally understand putting a few quid in and deciding to hold for the fun of it, that is what I have done. That said, anyone who regards this as anything other than a gamble, akin to throwing a few quid on an outsider in a horse race, that you are likely to lose, is, in my opinion, foolish.

    If you have thrown money into this that the loss of which will result in a material or mental impact on you beyond that which you would suffer when your favorite football team which you have bet on loses, you should try and exit at a profit tomorrow (if possible) and reduce your holding to a level you are comfortable with.

    Exactly, it's just a bit of fun so long as you don't put too much into it.

    I don't know why some people are getting so rattled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭clones1980


    Exactly, it's just a bit of fun so long as you don't put too much into it.

    I don't know why some people are getting so rattled.

    I dont either. Its 2000 not all my saving. It wont break me one way or another and has been sitting in a credit union account for years.


  • Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    clonesbabe wrote: »
    I dont either. Its 2000 not all my saving. It wont break me one way or another and has been sitting in a credit union account for years.

    Ok, that's your call. Though 2000 is a lot of money to anyone, so I suppose that's why some are trying to warn you. But if you're comfortable with potentially losing 95% of that in a flash, then work away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    You need the hype and people to think they are sticking it to Wall Street to drive price up....Wall Street is making a fortune and laughing at everyone in this ‘movement’ as long as the stock is moving (up or down) they are making money. Retail traders buying with a delay versus the algo computers that trade in mili-seconds.

    By Friday, short-sellers had lost $19.75 billion on GameStop so far this month alone, according to S3 Partners, a New York–based firm that tracks short positions on U.S. stocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    Ok, that's your call. Though 2000 is a lot of money to anyone, so I suppose that's why some are trying to warn you. But if you're comfortable with potentially losing 95% of that in a flash, then work away.

    Exactly I get the fun bit but this has less chances of a horse at 1000/1 in the grand national.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    By Friday, short-sellers had lost $19.75 billion on GameStop so far this month alone, according to S3 Partners, a New York–based firm that tracks short positions on U.S. stocks.

    And how much have the made?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,391 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    This is the investment and markets forum. I'd suggest anyone who is totally bored and wants to do nothing other than gamble on stocks go create a thread on the gambling forum.


  • Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Timmaay wrote: »
    This is the investment and markets forum. I'd suggest anyone who is totally bored and wants to do nothing other than gamble on stocks go create a thread on the gambling forum.

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    And how much have the made?

    No idea, how much?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    clonesbabe wrote: »
    I dont either. Its 2000 not all my saving. It wont break me one way or another and has been sitting in a credit union account for years.

    unless you are worth a few million , i would not gamble 2k on a blown up stock

    the main reason because at this stage , its a game of musical chairs , the pop was a week ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Timmaay wrote: »
    This is the investment and markets forum. I'd suggest anyone who is totally bored and wants to do nothing other than gamble on stocks go create a thread on the gambling forum.

    Says the fella who was on about buying dodgecoin on this same thread a few days ago. Jesus wept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    What do we really think is going to happen ?read a few good theories.

    Have the big boys already closed out their most volatile short positions and reopened shorts at less risky numbers for when this all crashes ?

    Also I read an interesting thing that over 60% of shares are held by funds, and that Reddit soldiers aren’t really driving this at all, but rather this is a hedge fund versus hedge fund battle.

    Another theory I read online is that other hedge funds who already whole game stop may come to an agreement with the hedge funds who have shorted GameStop too much. And may agree to sell them stocks at a reasonable market price to cover their shorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    What do we really think is going to happen ?read a few good theories.

    Have the big boys already closed out their most volatile short positions and reopened shorts at less risky numbers for when this all crashes ?

    Also I read an interesting thing that over 60% of shares are held by funds, and that Reddit soldiers aren’t really driving this at all, but rather this is a hedge fund versus hedge fund battle.

    Another theory I read online is that other hedge funds who already whole game stop may come to an agreement with the hedge funds who have shorted GameStop too much. And may agree to sell them stocks at a reasonable market price to cover their shorts.

    Read one article that said half of the 13m RH users held some GME that's pretty insane. The average is probably pretty low but still must make up quite a big overall holding. I wouldn't be surprised if more shorts have been taken given the huge price. It surely, surely has to go back down again? I've not got involved at any point but it's been interesting to watch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    jimmii wrote: »
    Read one article that said half of the 13m RH users held some GME that's pretty insane. The average is probably pretty low but still must make up quite a big overall holding. I wouldn't be surprised if more shorts have been taken given the huge price. It surely, surely has to go back down again? I've not got involved at any point but it's been interesting to watch!

    I think one thing you can be pretty certain of is it will go down, will it go down to $20 is the question, and how long will that take. In the meantime the week ahead looks like being a fun week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    I think one thing you can be pretty certain of is it will go down, will it go down to $20 is the question, and how long will that take. In the meantime the week ahead looks like being a fun week.

    Once it does start to really fall of be interesting to see if all the "yolo hold for life" people stay true and risk seeing it down at 20. Once the hardcore lot sell then the collapse will surely be pretty dam dramatic. I'm guessing those screaming the loudest to hold have been slowly selling some off but not enough to feel guilty about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭endainoz


    jimmii wrote: »
    Once it does start to really fall of be interesting to see if all the "yolo hold for life" people stay true and risk seeing it down at 20. Once the hardcore lot sell then the collapse will surely be pretty dam dramatic. I'm guessing those screaming the loudest to hold have been slowly selling some off but not enough to feel guilty about it.

    It went down as low as 120 on Thursday and suprising it didn't phase people too much. As was said, an interesting week ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭SmokyMo


    No matter how romantic of an idea that a bunch of redditors are able to stick to hedge funds, reality is they can barely move the market price, their capital is just still too small. Reason GME poped is a bunch of other big dogs on the other side of the trade.
    I saw somewhere a buy/sell data for last week from RH, and its was fairly equal with more sells towards the end of the week.

    Even if you are hoping for 1k target, chances of it lasting more the couple seconds and your ****ty free retail broker operating at that time is nearly zero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭daheff


    SmokyMo wrote: »
    I saw somewhere a buy/sell data for last week from RH, and its was fairly equal with more sells towards the end of the week.

    Given that RH stopped Buy trades on Thursday and restricted buys to 2, then 1 share on Friday I'm not surprised by that. But RH is only one of the brokers involved.


    If you think that RH has 14m customers & half own GME, even if they average 2 shs each that's still 14m shs out of a float of 50m. That's quite a lot of stock held up.

    And then there's the other brokers too. Probably not as much there but still a significant shareholding.

    A lot of institutional investors (ETF mm) actually need to hold the shares to cover ETFs they've issued too. That's reducing the float more. Then there's insiders who hold shares & aren't or can't sell at the minute.
    Then there's option sellers who need to deliver shares due on Tuesday.

    We could already be at the top of this squeeze or there may be more to go. Next few days will be very interesting. I still think the Reddit boys will hold on longer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    SmokyMo wrote: »
    No matter how romantic of an idea that a bunch of redditors are able to stick to hedge funds, reality is they can barely move the market price, their capital is just still too small. Reason GME poped is a bunch of other big dogs on the other side of the trade.
    I saw somewhere a buy/sell data for last week from RH, and its was fairly equal with more sells towards the end of the week.

    Even if you are hoping for 1k target, chances of it lasting more the couple seconds and your ****ty free retail broker operating at that time is nearly zero.

    This. There were some huge orders in the last hour of trading on Friday. Some whale dived in to take it from 250 to 330, to ensure a huge chunk of options expired in the money. Redditors simply do not have the financial firepower to do that


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