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1o059k7ewrqj3n · 20-01-2021 03:10PM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

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El Gato De Negocios · 20-01-2021 03:17PM

Enzokk wrote: »

It in no way contributes to him falling down a few seconds later. He falls down because he is trying to keep Salah away from the ball and is arching his body in such a way that he overbalances and falls over.

But it was a foul, regardless of whether it ultimately relates to him falling over or not is moot, he was fouled and a free out was given which was the correct decision for that passage of play.

rob316 · 20-01-2021 03:22PM

Christ this is tedious

yourdeadwright · 20-01-2021 03:23PM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

But it was a foul, regardless of whether it ultimately relates to him falling over or not is moot, he was fouled and a free out was given which was the correct decision for that passage of play.

But was he fouled ?
Maguire ran backwards with his arse out into Salah with no intention or attempt of playing the ball and they both fell over ,

IF that happened in the middle of the pitch there is no way your getting a free kick

Doesn't really matter as it didn't effect anything just one of those weird moments in a match , Ref should have said play on as neither player was in control of the ball ,

El Gato De Negocios · 20-01-2021 03:28PM

rob316 wrote: »

Christ this is tedious

Are non Liverpool fans not allowed to post in here or something because I must have missed the memo?

I was commenting on the incident that was on topic of the thread, as per the rules of the charter. If you have an issue with that perhaps report my post and let the mods deal with it rather than making snarky comments?

BorneTobyWilde · 20-01-2021 03:29PM

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

I'm still baffled by this foul given against Salah btw

Clear obstruction. A five year old can see that, but not a seasoned ref. Sad

Enzokk · 20-01-2021 03:29PM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

But it was a foul, regardless of whether it ultimately relates to him falling over or not is moot, he was fouled and a free out was given which was the correct decision for that passage of play.

No it wasn't. There was no foul, but it is one that is given all the time for defenders. It's the same with goalkeepers sometimes falling over their own defenders in the box and getting a free kick. Not a foul but given most of the time.

Just so you don't feel offended, this is not on Maguire as Liverpool defenders would benefit from decisions like this as well, doesn't mean its a foul.

J Mysterio · 20-01-2021 03:31PM

citytillidie wrote: »

Nah worse one was the two footed lunge on Milner V Southampton where he was told to get back up and Liverpool didn't even get a free kick

Pickford on Van Dijk. Should've been a straight red.

Enzokk · 20-01-2021 03:32PM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

Are non Liverpool fans not allowed to post in here or something because I must have missed the memo?

I was commenting on the incident that was on topic of the thread, as per the rules of the charter. If you have an issue with that perhaps report my post and let the mods deal with it rather than making snarky comments?

You clipped a moment that Salah had his hand on Maguires shoulder as proof this was a foul. Before that Maguire has his arms all over Salah, but you don't see us moaning about that being a foul because it isn't. What isn't a foul is Maguire falling over because he miscontrolled the ball and then blocked Salah and then fell over.

El Gato De Negocios · 20-01-2021 03:34PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

But was he fouled ?
Maguire ran backwards with his arse out into Salah with no intention or attempt of playing the ball and they both fell over ,

IF that happened in the middle of the pitch there is no way your getting a free kick

Doesn't really matter as it didn't effect anything just one of those weird moments in a match , Ref should have said play on as neither player was in control of the ball ,

That's what I was asking. To me it looks like salah had a little tug on Maguires shoulder / upper arm as they were leaving the box which would be a foul ie he (Salah) tried to impede Maguires run. Whether the whistle was blown immediately or 2/3 seconds after the tug is largely irrelevant if that is indeed what it was blown for rather than HMs falling over.

BorneTobyWilde · 20-01-2021 03:37PM

Serious lack of faith in Williams and Philips , playing Henderson there. I'd play Philips week in week out.

El Gato De Negocios · 20-01-2021 03:37PM

Enzokk wrote: »

What isn't a foul is Maguire falling over because he miscontrolled the ball and then blocked Salah and then fell over.

100% agree there hoss, I was merely postulating that perhaps it was the little tug rather than the fall over that was the reason for the free. Anyway, I've given my opinion so will leave it there, cheers.

yourdeadwright · 20-01-2021 03:42PM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

That's what I was asking. To me it looks like salah had a little tug on Maguires shoulder / upper arm as they were leaving the box which would be a foul ie he (Salah) tried to impede Maguires run. Whether the whistle was blown immediately or 2/3 seconds after the tug is largely irrelevant if that is indeed what it was blown for rather than HMs falling over.

To me it looks like Maguire throws his arm and body across Salah as they leave the box and the fact Salah moves away and gives Maguire no resistance means Maguire has to scramble to keep his feet and eventually falls over ,

jayo26 · 20-01-2021 03:47PM

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

That's what I was asking. To me it looks like salah had a little tug on Maguires shoulder / upper arm as they were leaving the box which would be a foul ie he (Salah) tried to impede Maguires run. Whether the whistle was blown immediately or 2/3 seconds after the tug is largely irrelevant if that is indeed what it was blown for rather than HMs falling over.

I think you're correct in this assessment.

brevity · 20-01-2021 03:59PM

Ahhh it's nothing imo. Frustrating and maybe a bit cynical by Maguire but I don't think it's anything to be too annoyed about. Some of the var stuff is much more annoying.

Utopia Parkway · 20-01-2021 04:03PM

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

I'm still baffled by this foul given against Salah btw

Dragged Salah down if anything. The reaction of the players is usually instructive and Salah is fuming which is unlike him.

Simultaneously clever and clumsy by McGuire.

Markitron · 20-01-2021 04:30PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Dragged Salah down if anything. The reaction of the players is usually instructive and Salah is fuming which is unlike him.

Simultaneously clever and clumsy by McGuire.

Simultaneously lucky and clumsy more like

20-01-2021 04:43PM

I think we should take a 6 month punt on Sokratis....

I'm not Klopp though, trust Klopp obviously...

yourdeadwright · 20-01-2021 04:46PM

Fieldog wrote: »

I think we should take a 6 month punt on Sokratis....

I'm not Klopp though, trust Klopp obviously...

No he is like that anti CB to what we would look for

yourdeadwright · 20-01-2021 04:48PM

Serious question how come no jurno's asked Klopp about Keita
Didn't he say it was nothing serious and here we are nearly a month later and still no sigh of him,
We score so many more goals when Naby is involved ,

Markitron · 20-01-2021 04:53PM

Fieldog wrote: »

I think we should take a 6 month punt on Sokratis....

I'm not Klopp though, trust Klopp obviously...

I wouldn't be arsed myself but I wouldn't rule out Klopp doing it, not after Caulker.

rob316 · 20-01-2021 04:58PM

He's 32 he'll be looking for far more than 6 months.

radiata · 20-01-2021 05:07PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Serious question how come no jurno's asked Klopp about Keita
Didn't he say it was nothing serious and here we are nearly a month later and still no sigh of him,
We score so many more goals when Naby is involved ,

Because it's Keita, so presumed out for another while.
He's so frustrating. I was just looking at his stats, he has played a total of 2580 minutes or the equivalent of just under 29 games in the premier league for Liverpool since he joined, out of a possible 94 games.
All from little niggles that drag on for months.
Hope to fcuk Matip is back too, Gomez has still played more than him this year!

Enzokk · 20-01-2021 05:10PM

So some fixture changes for TV,

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1351922441216524289?s=20

Now between the Man City match on the 7th and Leicester on the 13th we have a potential 5th round match on the 10th February. So it would again mean a Wednesday and then midday Saturday match if we win on Sunday against United. At the very least it would mean another day out for the squad players for that match I would think.

Leicester is playing against Brentford in the 4th round so if they make it out and we get knocked out we have more rest between the match. They could lose and we win, which would mean we would have less time to prepare again. Interesting times ahead.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 20-01-2021 05:11PM

Surely the Greek chap on a free is a no brainer.

citytillidie · 20-01-2021 05:11PM

Feb games

February Team TV
3rd Brighton BT Sport
7th Man City Sky Sports
13th Leicester (a) BT Sport
16th RB Leipzig (GER) (a) BT Sport / RTE
20th Everton Sky Sports
27th Sheff Utd (a) TBC

yourdeadwright · 20-01-2021 05:52PM

citytillidie wrote: »

Feb games

February Team TV
3rd Brighton (a) BT Sport
7th Man City Sky Sports
13th Leicester (a) BT Sport
16th RB Leipzig (GER) (a) BT Sport / RTE
20th Everton Sky Sports
27th Sheff Utd (a) TBC

We already played Brighton away ?

.G. · 20-01-2021 05:56PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

We already played Brighton away ?

They're letting us play it again cos we were robbed at the end

~Rebel~ · 20-01-2021 06:06PM

rob316 wrote: »

He's 32 he'll be looking for far more than 6 months.

Indeed. The time to get him was on loan from Arsenal. Now that he’s a free agent the only chance we’d have is if he’s not getting the interest he’d like and wants a shop window.

As for the comment on him being the anti-cb - his shortcomings are the same as our current cb’s, Matip aside, except he’s not as slow and is immeasurably more talented at the aspects he’s good at, and comes with experience.

To buy, absolutely not - but would he improve us for 6 months? Inarguably.

Markitron · 20-01-2021 06:09PM

.G. wrote: »

They're letting us play it again cos we were robbed at the end

Then is there any chance we can get a do-over of the Everton game from December 2017? I'm still incandescent with rage over that one.

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