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Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    It's pretty obvious... sign CB's (at least one) or we're throwing away this title. It's madness to play our best two midfielders at CB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    IF we are to sign a CB then what is the 11? People looking for Hendo and Fab back in midfield would push Gini or Thiago to the bench? And by the time we get a CB in Jota will hopefully be back..

    Ali
    TAA NewCB Matip Robbo
    Hendo Fab
    Thiago
    Salah Jota Mane

    For me the balance in a Fabinho, Hendo and Thiago isn’t right. All occupy the 6 role. I suppose that will be a nice concern to eventually have though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,203 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    What happens if henderson or Fab pick up an injury? which is quite possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,713 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    What happens if henderson or Fab pick up an injury? which is quite possible

    Milner will be there at some point I'm sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,203 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Milner will be there at some point I'm sure.

    True and maybe Gini


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    Milner will be there at some point I'm sure.
    True and maybe Gini

    No danger of an actual CB being available anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,369 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Vvd won't be back this season


    I think he will, with 10-7 games left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    IF we are to sign a CB then what is the 11? People looking for Hendo and Fab back in midfield would push Gini or Thiago to the bench? And by the time we get a CB in Jota will hopefully be back..

    Ali
    TAA NewCB Matip Robbo
    Hendo Fab
    Thiago
    Salah Jota Mane

    For me the balance in a Fabinho, Hendo and Thiago isn’t right. All occupy the 6 role. I suppose that will be a nice concern to eventually have though.

    This team is spot on, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    I think he will, with 10-7 games left.

    7 months is the absolute minimum. That be mid May with only 2 or 3 league games left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Even if we sign someone I think Fabinho plays out the rest of the season as a CB, Matip can't be relied upon to stay fit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,097 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    This is the first time that I can remember where all the front three are not playing well at the same time. Usually if one of them was in a slump the other two would still be performing.

    Apart from a very short good spell last month Firmino has been off form for well over a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    I think he will, with 10-7 games left.

    After recovering from 2 ACL injuries myself I can tell you there is not a chance VVD gets back with 10 games to go!! Best scenario is a moral boasting cameo on the bench in late April/early May!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,955 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    People might think it mad bit its going to be a a real struggle for the top four this season December and January has been an absolute nightmare for us result wose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,618 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Real shortsightedness from the club not to have a CB in the door on January 1st, we're paying the price for that now and until we get one in we'll continue to struggle when Matip is not available, getting another CB in would also free up Fabinho for midfield when Matip is available.
    It won't solve all our problems, but, it'll go along way to sorting things, I think at this stage we can forget about the league as City look like they're back close to their best again and on our current form we have little chance of overhauling them.
    As for anyone who thinks VVD will be back for the last 10 games, dream on, at best he might be in the squad for last game or two, but, I hope we don't see him play again this season as I'd prefer to have him right for next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,145 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    People might think it mad bit its going to be a a real struggle for the top four this season December and January has been an absolute nightmare for us result wose

    I've a certain amount of faith that things will pick up... we've had these runs of poor form over the past few seasons. This has been worse, but they always dig their way out of them sooner or later.

    So I'm not terribly worried about top 4, but think it'll cost us the league alright.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    I don't think Chelsea will be in with a shout and leicester will fall off leaving it city atop with any combination of us, united and spurs underneath. Sickening thing is it'll probably be in around 80 points winning it and we'll probably end up or 72 or something after dropping 9 points this last month.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The next run of games is particularly tricky plus Leipzig X2. It'll probably decide teams fate this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,618 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    I've a certain amount of faith that things will pick up... we've had these runs of poor form over the past few seasons. This has been worse, but they always dig their way out of them sooner or later.

    So I'm not terribly worried about top 4, but think it'll cost us the league alright.

    We have a different run of fixtures until the Everton game towards end of February, on our current form we'll struggle to pick up many wins or points in those games, so we could be in a real dogfight for top 4 by then, I think City will have be well out of sight by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    3 draws 1 lose since the 0-7 win at Palace and that was also the last game with fans.


    Seven 1 - 0 wins are better than One 7 - 0 win Klopp was right with that statement after the Palace game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    Real shortsightedness from the club not to have a CB in the door on January 1st, we're paying the price for that now and until we get one in we'll continue to struggle when Matip is not available, getting another CB in would also free up Fabinho for midfield when Matip is available.
    It won't solve all our problems, but, it'll go along way to sorting things, I think at this stage we can forget about the league as City look like they're back close to their best again and on our current form we have little chance of overhauling them.
    As for anyone who thinks VVD will be back for the last 10 games, dream on, at best he might be in the squad for last game or two, but, I hope we don't see him play again this season as I'd prefer to have him right for next season.

    Would you be happy with the club spending 20/30m+ on a CB that they aren’t particularly sold on? I can only assume our first choice was one of the lads at Leipzig and that’s a no go as we play them in the CL. They could even be first and second choice. The club probably don’t want to fork out 20/30+ million on a CB that will be surplus to requirements in a few months and probably won’t make too much of a difference if he’s their 3/4th choice.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    We’re in a title race and also a top 4 race. That’s just how this season has gone unfortunately. Hoping we can put on a performance on Thursday at home to Burnley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,145 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Would you be happy with the club spending 20/30m+ on a CB that they aren’t particularly sold on? I can only assume our first choice was one of the lads at Leipzig and that’s a no go as we play them in the CL. They could even be first and second choice. The club probably don’t want to fork out 20/30+ million on a CB that will be surplus to requirements in a few months and probably won’t make too much of a difference if he’s their 3/4th choice.

    What's very frustrating is not even moving for a stopgap loan option, which we know are available. In terms of that short term market, we don't need the best, we just need better than Nat and Rhys, which is a pretty low bar.

    Plenty of teams have 4th choice lads on the bench not getting games, but earning wages. Like Sokratis at Arsenal - who offered him to us. Or Militao at Madrid. Or someone like Ranocchia at Inter, who is fit all season, on high enough wages, but not playing.

    Can only hope they're working on something like this, but if the window closes and we've not even brought in a stopgap loan player I'll be hugely disappointed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Ikozma


    Suarez banging them in , so much so Costa gets his contract terminated. Would love Suarez leading the line today .

    Far superior player then any of our front 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Ikozma


    The Mig wrote: »
    We’re in a title race and also a top 4 race. That’s just how this season has gone unfortunately. Hoping we can put on a performance on Thursday at home to Burnley

    I wouldn't bank on it, how will we score when we don't shoot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,618 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Would you be happy with the club spending 20/30m+ on a CB that they aren’t particularly sold on? I can only assume our first choice was one of the lads at Leipzig and that’s a no go as we play them in the CL. They could even be first and second choice. The club probably don’t want to fork out 20/30+ million on a CB that will be surplus to requirements in a few months and probably won’t make too much of a difference if he’s their 3/4th choice.

    Don't need to spend 30/40 million on a CB right now, could bring in a solid defender on loan for the remainder of the season I'm sure there are plenty of CBs around Europe who are available who are better options than Williams, Philips and Henderson, for example players similar to Rudiger who was out of favour at Chelsea for most of the season, there are plenty more across Europe who would be better than what we currently have. We don't need to sign the next long term CB now, we just neet a solid CB who can get us through the remainder of the season.
    We can sign a permanent CB in the summer when they're available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,323 ✭✭✭mada999


    Thiago as well as running the game for Liverpool kept Bruno in his pocket for the whole game.

    Bruno who ? lol it doesnt suit him to defend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,323 ✭✭✭mada999


    The Jman wrote: »
    Solskjaer is just big Sam with talented players, getting a win against them was always gonna be tough for ye. Lacking a bit of creativity but overall a solid performance from Liverpool.

    I think you are correct chief... Bolton, stoke or any of those on steroids imo.. they were fierce cowardly today..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Ikozma


    Tusky wrote: »
    Apart from a very short good spell last month Firmino has been off form for well over a year.

    I'd go so far as to say 2 yrs, time for Bobby to either move to midfield where I actually think he'd be more suited, or say his goodbyes


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    Ikozma wrote: »
    I wouldn't bank on it, how will we score when we don't shoot?

    Start shooting obviously


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    Don't need to spend 30/40 million on a CB right now, could bring in a solid defender on loan for the remainder of the season I'm sure there are plenty of CBs around Europe who are available who are better options than Williams, Philips and Henderson, for example players similar to Rudiger who was out of favour at Chelsea for most of the season, there are plenty more across Europe who would be better than what we currently have. We don't need to sign the next long term CB now, we just neet a solid CB who can get us through the remainder of the season.
    We can sign a permanent CB in the summer when they're available.

    You’re making it out that finding a very good CB, that suits our style of play and is available for 6 months is a simple thing? I’m sure if there was one available so handily the club would’ve picked them up by now!

    I know you only gave Rudiger as an example, but Chelsea are not going to loan him to a direct rival. Someone else mentioned Sokratis at Arsenal, he has zero pace. Militao at Madrid apparently has a a clause that you’ve to buy after the loan so probably doesn’t suit us.

    Good CBs are a dime a dozen these days, let alone ones available for 6 months. If that was the case do you not think United, Chelsea, Spurs would have picked up one in this window too?

    The club probably think that hopefully the injury crisis is behind us now and once Matip is back next week we will have himself, Fab, Hendo & Thiago now and there is no point going out and getting Steven Caulker who 1. Won’t dramatically improve us and 2. Probably still won’t play in the big games if everyone is fit.


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