Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

citytillidie wrote: »

Curled out of play like the corner kick did near the end of the 1st half

Another couple of gas calls. The linesman was like a modern-day CAD.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

All 3 penalty checks should have been reviewed on monitor. VAR kept ref away from monitor, by been to adamant '' nothing to see here''
If Ref reviews the 3 of them, two are giving for sure.

VAR is against Liverpool, show of power from them. It's no different that cops, if you're in well with them all is rosy, if not they'll target you.

It really helps to know the protocol before going full blue moon on it. The monitor is only used when the VAR is recommending an overturn.

They ask the ref what did he see happen, if what the ref says largely tallies with what they see on the screen then no further action is taken. If what the ref says is at odds with what they can see on the screen they'll advise him to take another look.

So If the VAR thinks the ref got it right he isn't telling him anything. We can deduce from this that both the ref and the VAR saw nothing wrong last night with anything the saw.

Whether that's right or wrong is a different discussion but the VAR isn't out to get us. It's just a system which is being used by the same inept refs who deny us, and other teams it must be said, things we think they shouldn't deny. And that's cos they aren't very good either on the pitch or when in the booth.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It always, always puts a smile on my face when I see poster taking a Toby post seriously.

I'm not here as long as most of you and I don't know him/her that well but I think he/she gets the benefit of the doubt when maybe it may not be warranted! I've read alot of stuff over the last year and quite alot of that has made me go "wow" too. Can literally say anything crackpot ish and folk just say it's a wind up. Maybe it isn't .

No offence Toby!

Charlie19 wrote: »

@.G.

Where you not Kerrigooney in a previous form?

Nope. I've been on boards since 2006 but only bothered with access to the soccer forum in 2018 I think it was. Maybe 2019. Not sure.

Charlie19 wrote: »

Apologies. It's hard to keep up sometimes, you might have a similar name or something.

I've had one name change on boards but it was before I joined soccer.

Haiku Toby was the best Toby.

Fromvert wrote: »

Isn't there a poster with a name that is just a 6 or similar to .G. with a few fullstops etc. or did I lose my mind this year?

Pretty sure I thought at one point .G. or 6 was having a conversation with themselves until I looked closer. Search function doesn't help find such a small name though.

Edit: Found him, posted the other day. I've probably combined them into one person when scrolling and just glancing at the names

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115793568&postcount=3604

I do this myself. I've seen things posted by 6 and go "I don't remember posting that" or people quoting him/her and think they're quoting me.

My desired username of just "G" was taken so I had to add the full stops.

dogbert27 wrote: »

Last year there was a narrative that City wasn't at their best due to the loss of Laporte.

With VVD gone though it's clear how much our game is gone. He could almost sit 10 yards back from the half way line on his own and mop up anything while the full backs and the midfield pushed up on the opposition.

Also his delivery of quick long diagonal balls to Salah that would launch a counter attack is sorely missing.

And his aerial threat at corners as the rest of the team are just short arses!

I agree. There was a delayed reaction given just how good we are, but the loss of VVD is being fully realised now. It has knocked our setup off its axis.

We haven't just lost VVD from centre half, we've lost Fabinho from centre-mid, we now have Henderson looking back to protect the kids, instead of looking forward, Trent isn't his marauding best which has a knock-on effect for Salah ahead of him.

Added to that the other injuries to Tsimikas, Jota and Thiago means that the players needing a rest just weren't getting it and we are now struggling to build any rhythm.

Okay, so we have been crap the past few games. Last year we got away with moments in games and having decisions go our way which meant we were able to keep winning. This year we are having bad luck with injuries and decisions from referees. No use obsessing over these as it will not change anything, but I will be complaining about them.

However we can only look forward and to ourselves to be better. So we have Villa on Friday, I would have been of the thinking to play the kids and whatever the result is it doesn't matter. But with us needing some confidence I think we go as strong as possible, with players resting that needs it. But if the likes of Salah or Mane or anyone else still is able to play they should.

We have 8 days off before the United match so it should leave enough time to rest for those playing on Friday and if any player is okay to play and isn't playing it would mean they have 2 weeks off between matches. Our record is patchy when our players are coming back from a break so I am worried about it. At the same time, I was wrong about what to do against Atalanta away, so whatever the management decides, they know more than me and I will be happy with their decision.

Just on the United match, we are playing once before we play them, they are playing 3 times before they play against us. There will be no excuses that our players are tired when we play them and looking at how teams have played when they play against a team that has been playing twice a week when they have had a week's preparation (City v Chelsea where City had their previous match postponed), it seems like there is quite a difference in how the teams can approach the match in terms of intensity. I hope this will be in our favour as we cannot complain about too much rest, right?

Ottoman_1000 wrote: »

OGS getting his two pence worth to counter Klopp's jibe in early to prevent any decisions that may go against them next week. Klopp should have never brought UTD into his argument, he went down the Mourinho avenue with that interview!!

Yea he shouldn't have said anything about anyone else. It was a silly throwaway comment that you would normally hear on twitter.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Not sure if its because we are used to people like Jose but Ole's rebuttal was very poorly delivered ,

He had a chance to really bury Klopp and really kick start the Liverpool United rivalry but he kind of stumbled his way through what he said , poor show old mate poor show ,

Yes maybe a wasted opportunity on Klopp that shouldn't have been presented to him in the first place but I do love the fact he brought up Lampard!!!! Jasus I have a slight detest for that man...

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Is the FA cup game on the BBC?

BT Sport

It will be interesting to see over the next few months if Klopp’s comments effect how clubs get penalties will some clubs see it harder to get and some clubs find it easier to get.

One thing for sure those comments will be on officials minds during games.

As much as Matip is needed for the game against Utd, for numerous reasons, I think having Keita back would also be a big boost.

I don't think it's a coincidence that some of the best performances this season have included Keita in the starting line up - the wins against Chelsea, Arsenal, Leicester & Crystal Palace. He was also involved in the Wolves & Atalanta win, albeit not from the start. Now granted, this has to be balanced out with the Villa debacle where he was very poor and he wasn't seen again for a few weeks because he caught covid.

His ability to beat a man, progress the ball up the pitch and pick a pass will be very important in a game I expect Man United to sit deep in. He has a quickness in play while not possessing great pace and this quickness will be extremely important against a team that is well set. The labored passing of late is allowing teams to reset defensively lately and it is hurting the attackers have space and work good scoring opportunities.