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Post pics of your watches Part II
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Grand Seiko says to Rolex "My finishing is the best".......ALS says to Patek "here, hold my beer".........
Lange finishing is second to none IMHO, especially in the movement. That's one thing I noticed with the two springdrive GS' I had in the hand. The dial hands etc and case were impeccable and you could see that with the naked eye too*, but the movement finishing was so so tbh.
*granted I'm short sighted and have a built in loupe so my naked eye might see more than non four eyed people.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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How the hell do people get macro images with the whole picture in focus?
Or do they just crop them?
Lots of methods depending on what equipment you have - you can:
1. buy an expensive dedicated macro lens which is built to render more items in focus even at very close distances;
2. take multiple photos and overlay the in-focus portions over one another and build a composite image;
3. the focal plane is flat - so if you're photographing head on instead of at an angle you will get more of area in focus.
I wasn't using a dedicated macro lens with my Omega shots - instead I use a reverser ring - I mount one lens onto another lens and turn it into an ultra macro lens - it means I have very, very narrow DOF (depth of focus) a few mm or fractions of a mm:
https://digital-photography-school.com/reverse-lens-macro-close-up-photography-lesson-3/
In my case I was reversing a 50mm lens onto a 200mm lens - so you can see the extreme magnification (the larger the magnification the less DOF you'll get too) and razor thin DOF. It does allow you to capture the raindrops on the eyelashes of a dragonfly though (sadly that image of mine got lost in a cloud storage incident!)
@893bet - the dark spots could actually be dirt on the electronic sensor too - you might need to look up how to clean your sensor (a slightly nerve wrecking thing to do if you've never done it before). Or just use the clone tool to remove them if you don't want to stick a swab onto very sensitive electronic equipment
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Still the classiest watch on the forum.Got a macro lens for xmas and now realise that not having a macro lens is the problem. Its the idiot operating the camera.......
I guess I shouldn't buy one then? Or even a camera?
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Lange finishing is second to none IMHO, especially in the movement. That's one thing I noticed with the two springdrive GS' I had in the hand. The dial hands etc and case were impeccable and you could see that with the naked eye too*, but the movement finishing was so so tbh.
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Exactly, its a magic trick with GS....in one hand the distraction the dial and hand...so well done.....look at this dont look at the case design, or thickness, or the rubbish bracelet and clasps...and spring drive is not sneaky quartz....oh no, its a horoligical innovation of immense importance....definatly not quartz.
836bet...even your macro shots cannot mask to beauty of the ALS. Classic design and proportions, understated dial and wonderful craftsmanship. ALS is the brand for the true purist, as a Rolex pleb I am unworthy to touch the helm of the ALS garment.0 -
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+1. In the flesh they don't disappoint either. A chap I know has one, a black dial two register flyback chronograph(ticking all the boxesALS are expensive.....but are actual value for money when you put them beside the steel Rolex, AP, Patek, etc.
) and it's one of the finest watches I've ever laid eyes on. Arse puckeringly* expensive mind you. I think he told me it was 30 odd grand? He worked up to it though, flipping over the years adding a little at a time, buying used as he went, so it was more like 10 odd to him in the end.
*should be a word. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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+1. In the flesh they don't disappoint either. A chap I know has one, a black dial two register flyback chronograph(ticking all the boxes ) and it's one of the finest watches I've ever laid eyes on. Arse puckeringly* expensive mind you. I think he told me it was 30 odd grand? He worked up to it though, flipping over the years adding a little at a time, buying used as he went, so it was more like 10 odd to him in the end.
*should be a word.
Some one on TZ recently got one. Mesmerising caseback. Pure porn. In the region of 30k sterling.
https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?486525-A-Lange-amp-Sohne-1815-Chronograph&p=5626288&viewfull=1#post56262880 -
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As you say U it's very interesting for someone into horology more than just the jewellery side. Both sides have their thing and that's fair enough, but there are two sides. It's not my thing personally, but I don't have any problem with someone buying a [insert brand here] as a luxury jewellery piece* and that making them happy and fair bloody play, so I don't get the attitude that someone who doesn't or is more into the horology aspects is somehow wrong.Indeed. Very interesting for someone into horology. What's the point of it though?
If you stop at Newton we'd be kinda boned.if there is electricity involved it's not mechanical, its a hybrid or a chimera. If you need more than Newton knew to describe the watch its not analogue. Silicon hairsprings and sapphire crystals are out for a start and good luck in manufacturing or regulating a modern watch without electricity and quartz and atomic time. COSC and the like rely on it. And Newton was aware of electricity and magnetics, even mused about how electricity might work in the nervous system, clever if bloody odd bastard he was. He'd need a quick primer on peizo effects alright, but within the space of the making and drinking of a cup of coffee I reckon he'd be up to speed with how a springdrive operated.I dont know about the other things you mentioned, but the ghost of George Daniels appeared to me as an apparition and scolded me for being a filthy casual while I read them, and honestly that turned me on.
Yeah, like that only with a black dial. I got a semi just looking at the front and then I turned it over...Some one on TZ recently got one. Mesmerising caseback. Pure porn. In the region of 30k sterling.
https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?486525-A-Lange-amp-Sohne-1815-Chronograph&p=5626288&viewfull=1#post5626288
*though I think actual jewel encrusted watches tack as fookRejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Ah well, back on topic. My unashamedly and most certainly quartz not sneaking around. 
I set this when I got it in September, then noted it was running slightly fast after a fortnight so did the oul tappy tap tap with the built in regulation bits and bobs(gave it two - .33 sec per month) and since has not gained or lost a second. Well if I squint hard enough I think it's maybe half a second fast. Though a mate's phone app that checks watch accuracy has it at zero taking a reading ten days apart.
A few weeks ago I even got a spare working movement from the Bay. 20 quid. Sweet. Look away Fitz, Unkel! Save yourselves!
They're usually more like 1-200 as there's even odder than me hyper accuracy non radio controlled quartz nutters out there who look for these and it also fits some Omega models.
Judging by the dial it looks like it came from one of their solid gold jobs from the late 80's. Probably long melted down in a cash for gold place. Many if not most of the loose movements mechanical or otherwise we see on the Bay come by this route. Back when I'd poke about in general/house auctions in the 80's generally the only watches that got attention were the solid gold ones regardless of brand(and current "fancy" digitals), the steel and plated went for buttons in general. Plated probably made up two thirds of all that showed up.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Feck off! :mad: :pac: Ah no I agree 100% TF. The Zenith defy lab movement is a fantastic piece of kit and certainly the most recent of true horological innovation and as you say fully mechanical. Now me being me :eek: I do like that it's a bit weird looking and conservatism be damned, but I could see that hurting sales alright until they make it more "traditional" and/or cheaper of course. At a lower entry point they could pick up a fair number of customers even at with the wacky looks. I would imagine residuals would tank though? Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Feck off! :mad: :pac: Ah no I agree 100% TF. The Zenith defy lab movement is a fantastic piece of kit and certainly the most recent of true horological innovation and as you say fully mechanical. Now me being me :eek: I do like that it's a bit weird looking and conservatism be damned, but I could see that hurting sales alright until they make it more "traditional" and/or cheaper of course. At a lower entry point they could pick up a fair number of customers even at with the wacky looks. I would imagine residuals would tank though?
No different than any other Zenith watch? :P
The aeronith has been uncharitably been described by some as looking like concrete and I'm disappointed they couldn't fit a date complication in a 14.5mm thick watch - but hopefully this will change in the future.0 -
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Things have been pretty quiet for me on the watch front. Still happy out with this pair now I have the the Sinn back from a service/refurb. Some nice watch related gifts this year from the other half, a new strap tool and leather watch roll.
Happy New Year guys!
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What's everyone else wearing for the first day of 2021?
This is something hopefully that will be seen in 2022-23 if it passes all tests - ignore the case, dial etc. etc. - this is purely a movement testing sample... But Hangzhou being the nice guys they are - were able to incorporate the Sólás S into the co-axial tourbillon cage (not a carrousel I believe)... that won't be the only "trick" we have up our sleeves though - model 3 hopefully should be a really good foundation for our Lir repeater model - but testing needs to be conducted now if I'm going to go ahead with a tourbillon model that I'd be happy to release to customers.0 -
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But Hangzhou being the nice guys they are - were able to incorporate the Sólás S into the co-axial tourbillon cage (not a carrousel I believe)... .
I think that releasing your own Tourbillon with the Solas S incorporated into the co axial cage would quite possibly be the biggest horological F you to all the "comic sans" naysayers out there!
On a side note, when are we going to get to see the dive watch thats number 2 or is that on hold until delivery of the starlight?0 -
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That looks good on you Cyrus. Very manly watch.There's an electric motor at each corner of your EV, and some serious control electronics. Is there heart/soul/ character with the EV or just economy and performance. Why so hard on an electronic watch?
Watch to me is mostly decorative. It's the only piece of jewelry that I wear, I don't even wear my wedding ring. No tattoos or piercings either. Short hair, no beard, moustache or stubble. It's the only thing I got
As everyone else, I carry a phone with me which will be more accurate than any mechanical or quartz watch, spring drive ones included.
The car has just one electric motor, not 4 Family car is completely different, it is mostly function, form, economy and performance. Plenty of fun too with a Tesla Performance model Other car is a Porsche with a lot more heart / soul / character but it's mainly off the road as I rarely need a second car. Contemplating converting it to electric too... My ads on adverts.ie
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This today. Hanging out with fish well past being fresh. Humming in the new year.
Only just realised I don't currently have a mechanical watch with a date function. :eek:Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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The orange bezel version? They're more usual to see and a few Longines divers had a similar orange bezel, the grey/green less seen. I heard tell there's a blue bezel version, but I've never seen one myself. 330 quid is a very good price for one if that was the final bid. I've seen dead ones with fecked up dials going for that. Around eight to ten years ago a few "big collectors" on different forums bought and raved about the quality of them and prices went rapidly north. Good ones in working order run between 800-1200 in auctions, add 500 for dealers, so 1700-2000 on chrono24(though that's an arena for price gougers IMHO)I was outbid on an Ultronic diver at £330 this week, pepsi dialled not as nice as wibbs.
Yeah, mad for mid 20th century tech and manufacturing. How the index wheel and jewelled pawls were produced is still a trade secret. This is a short vid on the Accutron.There's a 2mm index wheel with 20 micron teeth in them.
The movement in the Longines diver the ESA 9162 was an evolution of that made in Switzerland when the original Swiss inventor got the bum's rush from Bulova with his updated design.
Omega bought in most of them for their f300 series of watches. Cleverly putting them up for chronometer status because of a loophole at the time, knowing full well they'd fly that test. Up there for thinking They're also found in IWC, Zenith, Tissot, Certina and a couple of other marques of the time. There is also a chronograph version, which Bulova apparently did want to see if NASA would look at them again for flight status but... Bulova did well out of it though as they were paid a cut on each movement sold as they held a few patents on the tech.
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The eBay hammer dropped at £331. Running and looked ok, I was kicking myself afterwards, like I said it's your coloway the I like most. I've found if you get a good deal on a price, the seller can come back with some story that he dropped it whilst packing it, I've had that a couple of times.
Heres the watch.
From what I read Bulova supplied the index wheels to other manufacturers, and at the end of the production run they deliberately destroyed the tooling for the wheels.
Here's a link to Tuning fork patents, lots of omega patents, the IP for your Ultronic.
The omega 1972 speedsonic chronograph patent is there.
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Now I see why it didn't go higher NJ. The Bezel is wrong and good luck trying to find an original bezel for one. Still working movements go for over a hundred quid and if someone already had one with a bad dial/hands that one would have been worth a punt alright.The eBay hammer dropped at £331. Running and looked ok, I was kicking myself afterwards, like I said it's your coloway the I like most.
I've heard that before, so far I've been lucky* touches wood*I've found if you get a good deal on a price, the seller can come back with some story that he dropped it whilst packing it, I've had that a couple of times.
Thanks for the list of patent PDFs. The Longines ultraquartz ones are interesting and I've not seen them before. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Not the sharpest shot of the Speedy's lume, but it also shows the effect of the hesalite glass.
This picture has been at the top of my stairs for so long, I had kind of forgotten it was there. I can't remember where I got it, but it was framed by the guys in Phibsborough, who did a top class job. (For those of you with an interest in such things, that's the original 1929 stairs and timber work. Even the stairs itself was hand made.)
Finally, one for Wibbs and those interested in trench watches and all that: this is a 1914 Waltham watch, with a shrapnel guard. It's in the A Man and his Watch book.
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A Feiko Black Bay mod to kill some lockdown time. Complete with faux patina, but genuine dust and scratches on the dial as I am lazy and heavy handed. The Seiko jubilee bracelet feels very cheap, nearly like something from a $10 watch bought on a beach in Lanzarote, I think I will find something different to put it on.
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I'm debating having a "little" bit of work done to my Accutron Astronaut and I'm hoping that the wise heads here can give me a sanity check.
I love the piece, and tbh part of what I like is it's age and patina.
That said the lume is completely shot and there is some missing from the hands.
It's affecting the legibility is a big way,
Would I be mad to get a sympathetic relume done?
Faux aged lume, with appropriate colour of course rather than going with superluminova :pac:
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I'm debating having a "little" bit of work done to my Accutron Astronaut and I'm hoping that the wise heads here can give me a sanity check.
I love the piece, and tbh part of what I like is it's age and patina.
That said the lume is completely shot and there is some missing from the hands.
It's affecting the legibility is a big way,
Would I be mad to get a sympathetic relume done?
Faux aged lume, with appropriate colour of course rather than going with superluminova :pac:
https://ibb.co/N2RQTF4
I'd be very careful.
A new crystal might do more for it.
Why not leave the dial as is, and perhaps get some service hands and see how that grabs you? You can always go back.
I'd not be too concerned at the value of the piece, but the last thing you want is for it to come back looking like it has had a 'makeover'!
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One for the Rolex folk here.
Need a steer and an idea of value, usual Rolex "fears" in play.
Is it a gen 116334? What's it worth with no papers and only a watch register cert as provenance?
I've traded with the guy who contacted me re this one before, but the Spidey senses are tingling on this.
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