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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #1652
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    wheelo01 wrote: »
    That is an absolute shocker, how an Garda haven't done anything with this is baffling.pure stupidity to come in when he saw the bike, followed by lunacy of trying to overtake.
    It wouldn't be 200 euro I'd be after.
    Straight into the insurance company if cyclist has it, if not, on to the uninsured drivers dept (mibi, I think)

    this right here^^^


    i hear of too many people who cycle who are only too happy to let a driver off with just paying for the repairs to the bike. then have all sorts of hassle getting the money and getting it in a timely fashion.
    they might agree a few euro for a new wheel or whatever but never get the frame checked. some wont even go see a doctor about their injuries.

    if you are in a collision get insurance details, go to a doctor, make a claim.
    you are entitled to it, and its what insurance is for. dont let people shame you into "all claims are a scam" stuff.

    if you are injured and your property is damaged insurance is to set it right. a professional assessor will look at your claim, if you think thye offered too much then turn it down. if it turns out to be only 50eu for a buckled wheel then the driver can pay off their insurance and wont lose their NCB. theyll still get a loading for being a sh!t driver but who have they got to blame for that?

    and lastly, the gardai wont do a thing. they see most non fatal motor collisions as as civil issue that can be settled by the insurers.
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  • #1653
    Ferris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Just to add that the PIAB is there as a service if you do not want to use a solicitor or go to court. The process is a bit of a faff but its not too bad and the PIAB staff are very easy to deal with. Its a concilliation process and it does not harm your chances if an agreement isn't made. You can still pursue through the courts (ala Maria Bailey :p). I used the PIAB and was satisfied with the outcome, personal injury awards are in line with the book of quantum so should not be confused with inflated claims etc.
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  • #1654
    Ferris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Ferris


    I am nearly certain that they do. They did as part of my claim for some minor damage th the bike but there was a personal injury claim to go with it. Just remember that each claim costs you 40quid (admin fee) that the insured party pays if they accept the settlement.
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  • #1655
    fat bloke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Do PIAB resolve non-medical claims e.g. the cost of damage to the person's bike?

    I don't think so. I was in such a situation. The system is actually set up in favour of inflated personal injury claims. I found it extremely difficult to get compensated for bike-only damage. In the absence of potential personal injury payout the game wasn't worth the candle for a solicitor
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1656
    Ferris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Actually I just checked - I'm wrong - there has to be an injury.
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  • #1657
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,842 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    You can’t fall off a bike and not be injured to some degree, even slightly.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1658
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    After my first solid year of cycling to work today I had my first incident ever where I felt unsafe. Guy came about two inches from my handlebars, I had to swerve left after as he kept coming left during the overtake. Definitely intentional, started laying on the horn when I overtook him 14 seconds later at the lights though I spent the next 100m right behind the car in front. Wound down the window to yell that I should be on the (non-existent) cycle path. All I could do was gawk at the ignorant head on him, just as well cause I'm going to call Traffic Watch about it, hopefully they do something.

    Pales into insignificance compared to the last incident in this thread, but I'm genuinely put out, never had a confrontation before, thought it was just a Dublin (and Righttobikeit :D) thing.

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  • #1659
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    WTF did he think he was doing... cycling in a shared cycle/bus lane when there was a very important car wanting to use it for himself/ herself? I bet he doesn't even pay road tax. Hope the paint work on the door didn't get scuffed by pedals/ bars.
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  • #1660
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    TheChizler wrote: »
    After my first solid year of cycling to work today I had my first incident ever where I felt unsafe. Guy came about two inches from my handlebars, I had to swerve left after as he kept coming left during the overtake. Definitely intentional, started laying on the horn when I overtook him 14 seconds later at the lights though I spent the next 100m right behind the car in front. Wound down the window to yell that I should be on the (non-existent) cycle path. All I could do was gawk at the ignorant head on him, just as well cause I'm going to call Traffic Watch about it, hopefully they do something.

    Pales into insignificance compared to the last incident in this thread, but I'm genuinely put out, never had a confrontation before, thought it was just a Dublin (and Righttobikeit :D) thing.

    Just so you know...modern car body panels are made of very thin metal. A good thump with your fist makes a very loud noise inside the car! If the driver asks why you thumped his car, just tell him you were making sure he wasn't deaf as well as blind! ��
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  • #1661
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Weepsie wrote: »
    I'm just wondering if this is what makes some drivers (and that scumbag/Bully garda) think I have whacked their car at the merest tap.

    Thump the side of a van and the drivers ears will be ringing for hours! :)
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  • #1662
    work
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭work


    If a car overtakes you and you feel anyway unsafe feel free to whack the car as you are in danger. They are required to give you 1 meter space and Michael Phelp's arms aren't even that long so, in my opinion, there can be no complaints. you are letting them know you do not want to be crushed.


    If they want to claim you damaged their car let them know you damaged your hand while they put you in danger.


    Disclaimer: I know funk all about the law so take your own council and I in no way suggest violence just defense.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1663
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    work wrote: »
    If a car overtakes you and you feel anyway unsafe feel free to whack the car as you are in danger. They are required to give you 1 meter space and Michael Phelp's arms aren't even that long so, in my opinion, there can be no complaints. you are letting them know you do not want to be crushed.


    If they want to claim you damaged their car let them know you damaged your hand while they put you in danger.


    Disclaimer: I know funk all about the law so take your own council and I in no way suggest violence just defense.
    As nice as it might feel I'm not going to do that unless there's a good reason, like the driver hadn't seen me or something. This clearly was intentional and they're not about to back off, who knows what they'd do. I don't want the driver to have anything to use against me if it goes anywhere too.
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  • #1664
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Saw the video posted from Twitter and the driver saying it was the cyclists fault for not getting out of the way. That's absolutely shocking.

    It's making me think, I should probably get a camera, just in case.

    What kind of cameras do cyclists use for recording videos like that while cycling?
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  • #1665
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Do PIAB resolve non-medical claims e.g. the cost of damage to the person's bike?
    fat bloke wrote: »
    I don't think so. I was in such a situation. The system is actually set up in favour of inflated personal injury claims. I found it extremely difficult to get compensated for bike-only damage. In the absence of potential personal injury payout the game wasn't worth the candle for a solicitor

    if you have a damage only claim, get the insurance details, call the insurance company and follow their process. its very easy once there is evidence of the collision (photos or video)

    if you didnt get insurance details at the scene this is where the garda WILL help. go to them, report the collision and that the driver did not exchange detauls with you. you'll need the registration, and the garda will issue "a lawful request to present" and the driver has 10 days to show up at a station and give their insurance details
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1666
    tnegun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭tnegun


    The stretch is lethal I'd a very similar pass with one of their buses not far from there too. Complained to the company but heard no more about it.
    *edit. I was wrong they did reply and said that they took action but going by your video it doesn't look like had much effect! I've attached the snip I took from the video and sent them as he passed in the pouring rain very similar driving.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1667
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    As a matter of interest, would the HSA be an appropriate body to report dangerous driving by a professional driver if the gardai or company seem disinterested?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1668
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,718 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    CramCycle wrote: »
    As a matter of interest, would the HSA be an appropriate body to report dangerous driving by a professional driver if the gardai or company seem disinterested?

    I've failed on several attempts to get HSA interested. Anything related to site traffic or parking and you'll be told it is a matter for the Gardai. Or when you do report a matter, they tell you that they can't tell you anything about the outcome for confidentiality reasons. I did an FOI last year which indicated that they did not investigate several deaths involving commercial trucks (which ARE workplace deaths in law). When they did investigate, they tended to rely mostly on the Garda investigation with little independent thinking.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1669
    Duzzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Duzzie


    Had my first close call / scary incident on the bike this morning. Was cycling solo along an old national road which has been reclassified as a regional. It has a mix of hard shoulder and hard strips. Where I was, there is a 1m wide hard strip which contained mud and other detritus. It was also a cold morning so there was a risk of ice in untrafficked areas. I was therefore cycling on the traffic side of the yellow line. As I was cycling, a pick-up pulled up behind me and started hooting at me, presumably to get out of his way. I ignored him and carried on my way. He hooted at me at least 5 times. He then pulled along side me, close enough for me to touch his vehicle and started berating me for not cycling in the hard strip. I ignored him but he carried on shouting at me. After a while, I'd had enough and told him to f off. He carried on shouting so I told him to f off again. He then pulled away in front of me, pulled into the hard strip and skidded to a stop. He then swung his door open and I had to swerve to avoid it but carried on cycling. He then drove past me at a close distance and stopped in the hard strip 2 more times, although he didn't open his door on these two occasions. To me, he was clearly trying to intimidate me by passing me in close proximity and then stopping. He then drove off.

    As soon as I got to my destination, I went to the garda station to report what had happened. The gard was very helpful and was a cyclist too. He took a very dim view of the drivers actions. I had tried to remember the registration of the vehicle but only remembered part of it. Fortunately the vehicle was branded with a company name so the gard called the company and was able to determine who the driver was based on the partial reg and vehicle type that I gave him. He didn't get to talk to the driver but spoke to the company boss, telling him that he wanted the driver to phone him back. I've not heard any more from the gard but he said that he would call me with an update.

    Be careful out there folks. It may be the season to be jolly but it is also the season for idiots on the road.
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  • #1670
    Duzzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Duzzie


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I'd recommend either a front or rear camera (or preferably both) to back you up in these situations.
    Definitely something that I will be looking into after this morning. A side facing / helmet cam would also have be useful to show the driver shouting at me to get into the hard strip.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1671
    micar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Duzzie wrote: »
    Had my first close call / scary incident on the bike this morning. Was cycling solo along an old national road which has been reclassified as a regional. It has a mix of hard shoulder and hard strips. Where I was, there is a 1m wide hard strip which contained mud and other detritus. It was also a cold morning so there was a risk of ice in untrafficked areas. I was therefore cycling on the traffic side of the yellow line. As I was cycling, a pick-up pulled up behind me and started hooting at me, presumably to get out of his way. I ignored him and carried on my way. He hooted at me at least 5 times. He then pulled along side me, close enough for me to touch his vehicle and started berating me for not cycling in the hard strip. I ignored him but he carried on shouting at me. After a while, I'd had enough and told him to f off. He carried on shouting so I told him to f off again. He then pulled away in front of me, pulled into the hard strip and skidded to a stop. He then swung his door open and I had to swerve to avoid it but carried on cycling. He then drove past me at a close distance and stopped in the hard strip 2 more times, although he didn't open his door on these two occasions. To me, he was clearly trying to intimidate me by passing me in close proximity and then stopping. He then drove off.

    As soon as I got to my destination, I went to the garda station to report what had happened. The gard was very helpful and was a cyclist too. He took a very dim view of the drivers actions. I had tried to remember the registration of the vehicle but only remembered part of it. Fortunately the vehicle was branded with a company name so the gard called the company and was able to determine who the driver was based on the partial reg and vehicle type that I gave him. He didn't get to talk to the driver but spoke to the company boss, telling him that he wanted the driver to phone him back. I've not heard any more from the gard but he said that he would call me with an update.

    Be careful out there folks. It may be the season to be jolly but it is also the season for idiots on the road.


    Sorry to hear this.

    Had an incidence not as bad as this but with company van

    I had a search for the director and found him on FB. Photos of him doing races on his bike.

    I emailed him and explained the incident.

    He came back to advise he was a cyclists (which I already knew) and said he would speak to his employee.
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  • #1672
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    nah, keep it simple.
    I've a Cycliq Fly12 on the front bars and it picks up sound just fine (my rear Fly6 picks up too much road & wheel noise). If you need to get a look at the driver, then just turn the handlebars when stopped.

    And you get to half blind him as a bonus ;)
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  • #1673
    wheelo01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭wheelo01


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    nah, keep it simple.
    I've a Cycliq Fly12 on the front bars and it picks up sound just fine (my rear Fly6 picks up too much road & wheel noise). If you need to get a look at the driver, then just turn the handlebars when stopped.

    Never seems to miss your swearing mate :D:D
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  • #1674
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,177 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1344334762333368327
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  • #1675
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Former Mountain Bike Olympian,(he was also 4th in the Rás, the year the Russians were 1st, 2nd and 3rd) Alastair Martin, competed in a 10 mile Time Trial at Christmas. It was in Newtownards. He finished in 9th place.
    He competed on a Penny Farthing. He has previous in this regard.
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  • #1676
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Picturing him in full skinsuit, aero helmet and tri bars mounted on the penny farthing :D
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  • #1677
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Higher up you go the less dense the atmosphere, probably taking marginal gains to the extreme.
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  • #1678
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    https://belgianproject.cc/2019/12/26/ian-inglis-wins-ards-ccs-traditional-christmas-tt-10-miles-for-the-6th-time-in-a-row-at-the-ards-peninsula/

    If you scroll down, you'll see Alastair in 2019 on his P.F.
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  • #1679
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    https://belgianproject.cc/2019/12/26/ian-inglis-wins-ards-ccs-traditional-christmas-tt-10-miles-for-the-6th-time-in-a-row-at-the-ards-peninsula/

    If you scroll down, you'll see Alastair in 2019 on his P.F.

    That's a brilliant shot of him !!!!
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  • #1680
    micar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Thargor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1344334762333368327

    Had a look on Google street view. The road the van went up is two way.

    Appalling piece of driving.....skimmed the kerb for cars coming into the main road.
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  • #1681
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    https://belgianproject.cc/2019/12/26/ian-inglis-wins-ards-ccs-traditional-christmas-tt-10-miles-for-the-6th-time-in-a-row-at-the-ards-peninsula/

    If you scroll down, you'll see Alastair in 2019 on his P.F.

    The winner was on a track bike, fantastic, I want to enter this next year.
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