The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

kilns wrote: »

It's not plain and simple they are further away from winning an All Ireland now than they were 7 years ago with Anthony Daly. In the 90s their place in Leinster was 4th and they are still in that spot

Galway have been added since then of course. I didn't see Daly's team ever winning an All Ireland to be honest. Hugely positive juvenile results for Dublin, four Leinster minor titles this decade.

They may be fourth currently (would rate Dublin v Wexford near enough toss up to be honest) but they are far closer to first than they were in the 1990s, beat Galway last year, ran Kilkenny to a point this year. In another few years, would expect Leinster titles to become a regular enough occurrence for Dublin and expect Liam will spend a year in the capital in the not too distant future also.

Bambi wrote: »

Heres the answer you don't expect, off the top of my head:

Cork. Full time CEO, full time Performance Manager and heap of debt from their former full time CEO and Grande Presidente spunking all their money on a new stadium.

Ok so if you take cork as an example - they have 6 GDOs spread across the county whereas Dublin have between 60 and 70. Dublin have half the number of clubs, they have around 3 times the population, but 10 times more full time, professional coaches, subsidised by the gaa. Not comparable by any stretch, and I'll repeat my original point that Dublin have a professional structure that no other county can hope to replicate

The dominance of Dublin is nothing compared to the 1st nail in the coffin of football, that is the uptake of Jim
McGuiness's tactics and the inability of the council to allay the results.
2nd nail was the backdoor. (Look at the excitement and upsets this year!)
The 3rd is Dublin's excellence.

ClanofLams wrote: »

would expect Leinster titles to become a regular enough occurrence for Dublin and expect Liam will spend a year in the capital in the not too distant future also.

Not a hope if they split Dublin in 2.

theguzman wrote: »

Either all counties get brought up to the same standard of Dublin which is impossible unless the Govt wants to invest €100m - €200m per annum. The simple solution is you cut Dublin's funding and fundrasing sponsorship to the exact same level as other counties so they have no unfair advantage.

In Formula 1 car racing a sport which has strict rules on this type of thing all cars must have this type of thing, if today's Championship was reflected in Formula 1 we would have Dublin with a Bugatti Veyron, other counties with Trabant, Lada and a few others on Donkey and cart.

How much funding will it take for the donkey and cart to win a Grand Prix

kilns wrote: »

So what about this 50m yearly turnover Dublin have. Do you have figures? Also you said Huawei are sponsors

Are you sure you are ok the right thread?

Is this the ‘1m cheque no questions asked’ fella looking for figures?

Clareman wrote: »

100% I do, put in the proper support and structures and senior will look after itself, look at the counties with the best underage structures and you'll see the best counties.

It is a pity GAA gave Dublin all that money then as it was obviously a complete waste because it didn't have any impact on their success.

theguzman wrote: »

It is very true that travelers lost their land in the famine, a high percentage of whom settled in Dublin and brought with them trades such and tin-smithing (tinkering) and were involved in the disposal of dead animals in the various knackerys. Alot of Dubliners are indeed of this genetic stock.

It’s the GAA, things will be sorted as the intercounty game will be in tatters otherwise and that means the loss of money. You need to relax and reel in the aggression.

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

Structures cost money. Dublin are running a multi layered structure that is professionally managed and supported by a CEO, marketing department, game’s development officers, high performance coaches etc. They are also supported by ring fenced ISC funding that is not available to any other county.

To imply that other counties are just lazy and could implement a similar system if they just got off their backsides is disingenuous at best, and downright delusional at worst.

In most counties the county board chairman IS the CEO and unpaid at that. In recent years, Dublin GAA spent 9 million on the Spawell complex and another undisclosed sum of money on c20 acres at Hollystown. Meanwhile, counties like Roscommon raffle off houses to keep the show on the road. How many houses have you seen been raffled off by Dublin GAA to raise funds to pay for these assets? In case anyone is wondering it's Zero.

The GAA as an organisation cannot continue to turn a blind eye to this. County boards need to stop pussy footing around the elephant in the room and demand change otherwise it won't be long before the All Ireland will be dead also.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Same with the Mayo members of my family and that’s pretty big. There was just no excitement or anticipation about it at all for the first time ever. It shouldn’t be that way.

Remember the likes of mayo used to slag off meath fans when they started dwindling and losing faith. Maybe you now understand why. You are lucky you don't have to content with them in Connaught or it would do even more damage to the counties mindset.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I'd say Dublin has recived tons more games development funds than either Meath or Kildare in the last two decades. Before the funding rolled into Dublin, Meath and Kildare were winning Leinster and competing in AI finals. Its obvious given their decline that they've been starved of resources which were diverted to Dublin. Kildare and Meath cannot afford the professional structure Dublin has.

There were some epic rivalries in Leinster before dublin were handed everything. Meath and Kildare should be a huge battle. Now fans of the losing team are happy because they avoid a dublin trouncing. We should be expected to get to Dublin's level. We are where a normal county should be and are proud of it.

There used to be great shame for a meath or Kildare fan losing to dublin. Now we don't care as we know they are meaningless victories for Dublin. There's no bragging rights.

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Galway beat Dublin in U21 final split them up, Meath hammered Dublin in Minor championship split them up too, rubbish this is an exceptional Dublin team, they will always be there or thereabouts being a big county but give this team the credit they deserve

Dublin have received no shortage of credit.... From the GAA!

It’s impossible for Dublin supporters to be phlegmatic in this debate - and that is entirely understood.
If your team won 6 (or even1) in a row, you would unquestionably accept that it was won fairly and any questioning of it would be dismissed as sour grapes.
The thing is, the entire set up of a championship based on counties was based on a county with one third the population of the state not reaching that potential. The last thing that should have happened should have been such a county getting aggressive funding to turbo charge the potential provided by sheer population. That’s what has happened and, while Dublin will not complain, football is literally dying apart from a couple of fanatical outposts. There is no real belief in about 28 counties that they can win an all Ireland next year, and even Mayo, Kerry and maybe Donegal and Tyrone are probably resigned to their fate.
This is not ‘A’ team that won 6 in a row. Comparisons have been drawn with the Kilkenny hurling team that fell short of the 5 in a row. 10 of the team that won the first, lined out in the 5 in a row attempt. 3 more were in the subs.
Dublin have won the 6 in a row, not a Dublin team - there is constant regeneration and renewal- just 6 of the 2015 team remain.
What other county could take the loss of Jack McCaffery without skipping a beat?
As I said, Dublin don’t care, but, at this stage, the likelihood is Dublin will overtake Kerry on the roll of honour by 2030. Dublins dominance is and will be on a par with Crossmaglen.