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Disgusting high wages at RTE Gold for unwanted ex 2fm djs

  • 17-12-2020 04:14PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 34


    I put in a foi request and have found out that in 2019 Mr William Leahy earned 75k while Mr Paul Crossan earned 70k.


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  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What is a radio presenters actual job, out of curiousity?

    I presume the 2 hours or so they spend 'on air' is only a part of their job?


    70k doesn't seem too bad to me, as i assume they have to do a 'full time job' in the sense that they may only appear on the radio for a couple of hours, but will be doing research, scouting guests, doing PR and publicity work, etc. aswell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Philip M5


    Disgusting in comparison to what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Wait til you hear what a certain other 2FM DJ who only does a 2 or 3 hour slot a week earns... :)

    And their wages were halved several years back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Don Duck wrote: »
    I put in a foi request and have found out that in 2019 Mr William Leahy earned 75k while Mr Paul Crossan earned 70k.

    It's not the presenters fault. They are good presenters. What difference does being on RTE Gold does it make anyway and why is it disgusting?
    There are many people we know in the public sector who get paid much more for very little and nothing can be done about it.

    I wonder what do prime time BBC Radio 6 music presenters earn?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Don Duck


    Philip M5 wrote: »
    Disgusting in comparison to what?

    RTE Gold has no advertising income and no audience, it had no live presenters until 2018, nobody asked for live presenters. A full-time presenter on q102 would be earning less than half


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Don Duck


    Fieldog wrote: »
    Wait til you hear what a certain other 2FM DJ who only does a 2 or 3 hour slot a week earns... :)

    And their wages were halved several years back
    Dave Fanning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭TheBMG


    Don Duck wrote: »
    A full-time presenter on q102 would be earning less than half

    Not true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭TheBMG


    Don Duck wrote: »
    Dave Fanning?

    Put in another FOI request and find out 🀔


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Dipole Keith


    Very little to be doing looking to see what RTE Gold presenters earn, €70K is about right for a presenter on the national public broadcaster, the fact that you used Rick O’Shea’s real name just comes across as bitter to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    I see the OP joined today and all their posts so far are on this very thread!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Philip M5


    Don Duck wrote: »
    RTE Gold has no advertising income and no audience, it had no live presenters until 2018, nobody asked for live presenters. A full-time presenter on q102 would be earning less than half

    I don't see your point valid here. If anything people are now listening to traditional stations more via their apps and embracing online digital content which has better analytics for measure than the age old JNLRs.

    A full time presenter on Q102 verus national experienced presenters.....apples and oranges comparison here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I see the OP joined today and all their posts so far are on this very thread!

    The radio industry seems to have its fair share of very bitter little individuals. I see it on this particular sub forum more than most! New reg’s / re-reg’s posting threads like this, often claiming to have some insider info and often with a bitter/nasty undertone. Best ignored. I doubt the OP will be back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,411 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Don Duck wrote: »
    I put in a foi request and have found out that in 2019 Mr William Leahy earned 75k while Mr Paul Crossan earned 70k.

    Wondering why some journo or interested punter isn't putting in a foi request to see how much tubs, Darcy and Joe got paid in these years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Very little to be doing looking to see what RTE Gold presenters earn, €70K is about right for a presenter on the national public broadcaster, the fact that you used Rick O’Shea’s really name just comes across a bitter to me.

    Well the facts are that RTE is losing money every year and is seeking licence increases and regularly receives bail outs from the tax payer.
    Questioning why they are paying disc jockeys over 70k is perfectly legitimate especially as RTE Gold functioned quite well without them before.
    The same rationale can be applied to questioning the very existence of 2FM .There is no reason for it to exist, none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Am I the only one that thought they'd be on way more than 70k?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Very little to be doing looking to see what RTE Gold presenters earn, €70K is about right for a presenter on the national public broadcaster, the fact that you used Rick O’Shea’s real name just comes across a bitter to me.



    The motivation of the OP isn’t as big an issue as this being another massive waste of money.


  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One man’s waste of money is another man’s music station of choice. Personally I can’t abide Dave Fanning nor Ray Darcy, but I acknowledge that they have fans and deserve to be paid the going rate. I might think the op is an overpaid waste of space at his/her job, but the market might put a different value on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,088 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Philip M5 wrote: »

    A full time presenter on Q102 verus national experienced presenters.....apples and oranges comparison here

    Q102s full-time presenters include Aidan Cooney, with nearly 20 years daily national TV experience and Andy Preston who's 30 years on-air in Dublin - its not some tiny regional station. And they would be on rather more than 35k too; you won't get a full-time presenter for a top tier independent for that; unless they're a kid who doesn't realise what can be got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Tiercel Dave


    What is a radio presenters actual job, out of curiousity?

    I presume the 2 hours or so they spend 'on air' is only a part of their job?


    70k doesn't seem too bad to me, as i assume they have to do a 'full time job' in the sense that they may only appear on the radio for a couple of hours, but will be doing research, scouting guests, doing PR and publicity work, etc. aswell?

    Will also "moonlights" as a solicitor in his spare time.....


  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Will also "moonlights" as a solicitor in his spare time.....

    Was he the guy who went back to school and sat his leaving cert a few years ago? If it was, fair dues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    L1011 wrote: »
    Q102s full-time presenters include Aidan Cooney, with nearly 20 years daily national TV experience and Andy Preston who's 30 years on-air in Dublin - its not some tiny regional station. And they would be on rather more than 35k too; you won't get a full-time presenter for a top tier independent for that; unless they're a kid who doesn't realise what can be got.

    In Aidan Cooney's case, you should also factor in that he has legal radio experience going back to 1989, i.e. 31 years. If you include his pirate radio experience going back to 1979, that's 41 years!

    In relation to Andy Preston, I think his legal radio experience goes back to 1996, which is 24 years. However, if you include his pirate radio experience it would indeed be 30 or more years - think he started in 1988.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    I wouldn't have a massive problem with them earning 70/75K each. It's the ones that earn more than the President that I have a problem with.

    How would that 70/75K compare with somebody in Newstalk, aren't we always told that they are on peanuts. Well except Pat of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Expunge


    2 presenters - one on 75K, the other on 70K on a radio station available only online and on a limited, 'experimental' carrier - DAB which is only available in certain regions of the country.
    Probably add to that a Producer who's in charge of it too on about 85,000 plus.

    A station not (to the best of my knowledge) included in the JNLR, so the total listenership is unmeasured/unknown.

    Gold exists on a platform with a suite of other stations where the programme makers/presenters work for NOTHING, until recently. The Trade Unions looked the other way for most of that time.

    No reflection on the abilities of either of those gents but this kind of stinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Don Duck wrote: »
    I put in a foi request and have found out that in 2019 Mr William Leahy earned 75k while Mr Paul Crossan earned 70k.

    You are probably only stating haLf the story
    Both djs are rte employees not contractors and are over 15 years there so increments etc mean their salary is not outrageous at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Dav010 wrote: »
    One man’s waste of money is another man’s music station of choice. Personally I can’t abide Dave Fanning nor Ray Darcy, but I acknowledge that they have fans and deserve to be paid the going rate. I might think the op is an overpaid waste of space at his/her job, but the market might put a different value on it.

    Well if you're going to cite the market, then there is even less justification for paying these salaries.
    RTE is losing money; any organisation in the real world would have to cut its costs or go out of business, not increase its costs by creating salaried positions where none existed before.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Since when have individuals salaries been released in response to FOI requests?

    Is this a new thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Rte gold is barely a station by any proper definition. Not national unless you count soarview and how many listen that way. If they have no official listening figures how do they calculate the rate card pricing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Expunge wrote: »
    2 presenters - one on 75K, the other on 70K on a radio station available only online and on a limited, 'experimental' carrier - DAB which is only available in certain regions of the country.
    Probably add to that a Producer who's in charge of it too on about 85,000 plus.

    A station not (to the best of my knowledge) included in the JNLR, so the total listenership is unmeasured/unknown.

    Gold exists on a platform with a suite of other stations where the programme makers/presenters work for NOTHING, until recently. The Trade Unions looked the other way for most of that time.

    No reflection on the abilities of either of those gents but this kind of stinks.
    Not really..they are rte employees who help rte gold by DJing on it..if they didn't rte would still pay them 70k until they retire but just do other work as producers etc..


  • Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Very little to be doing looking to see what RTE Gold presenters earn, €70K is about right for a presenter on the national public broadcaster, the fact that you used Rick O’Shea’s real name just comes across a bitter to me.
    just googled the two names.
    explain gofundme to me
    Why is Rick O'Shea doing this for beneficiary Paul Crossan.
    https://www.gofundme.com/f/ROSBCXmasAppeal2020


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    just googled the two names.
    explain gofundme to me
    Why is Rick O'Shea doing this for beneficiary Paul Crossan.
    https://www.gofundme.com/f/ROSBCXmasAppeal2020

    Paul Cross is Rick O’Shea, I presume Gofundme require some KYC/AML in order to fundraise.


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