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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #1592
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,634 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It would be standard to park in the in the furthest left lane so that you don't have to cross live roads while working. It makes sense to not be running over and back active lanes but sadly for us the furthest over lane is almost always the cycle lane.

    They do the same on the other side by the looks of it and pick the furthest over lane
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  • #1593
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    on the fairview video, since it generated a lot of discussion...
    i was cycling to the left of the line as the path was empty and the actual track is a complete mess of mushed leaves, roots and broken tarmac.
    legally its signposted as a shared space so I'll argue that in court if anyone wants to report me to the gardai

    9 times out 10 i'd take the road there, but sometimes i take the bike lane if i'm not in a rush

    anway, if you're not familiar with the handling of cargo bikes, or at least how they appear on wide angle lens, everything is and appears exaggerated. i probably moved half a foot to the right to go around the drain cover a split second before i realised the car was coming onto the path. there wasnt an intentional swerve towards the car. just a normal cargo bike movement.

    and to add, i post a mix of videos, skipping traffic, infrastructure, kids cycling, fast cycling, stupid driving. it can be easy to conflate them all into "madman who cycles too fast with kids while filtering and screaming at drivers" but thats not the case. i just want better infrastructure for people who cycle and sharing my videos is a way of generating conversation around that

    the camera at night is not great at this stuff, but i tried to outline the drain cover. look at the distance of the stem from the white line, the movement is not that much

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  • #1594
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    It would be standard to park in the in the furthest left lane so that you don't have to cross live roads while working. It makes sense to not be running over and back active lanes but sadly for us the furthest over lane is almost always the cycle lane.

    They do the same on the other side by the looks of it and pick the furthest over lane

    There is a case to be made that narrowing the footpath that much inhibits pedestrians, wheelchair users and cyclists quite severely, to the point some people might be tempted to use the road side of the vehicle. Its just poor parking, there isn't a case to be made condoning it here IMO.
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  • #1595
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    It would be standard to park in the in the furthest left lane so that you don't have to cross live roads while working. It makes sense to not be running over and back active lanes but sadly for us the furthest over lane is almost always the cycle lane.

    They do the same on the other side by the looks of it and pick the furthest over lane

    yes, drivers do a lot of illegal things for their own convenience at the expense of pedestrians and people who cycle
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  • #1596
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,634 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    CramCycle wrote: »
    There is a case to be made that narrowing the footpath that much inhibits pedestrians, wheelchair users and cyclists quite severely, to the point some people might be tempted to use the road side of the vehicle. Its just poor parking, there isn't a case to be made condoning it here IMO.

    I've never done that job so I'm only going by what I have seen before but I think the correct procedure would be to park there and make a temporary path using cones on the bus lane.
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  • #1597
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I've never done that job so I'm only going by what I have seen before but I think the correct procedure would be to park there and make a temporary path using cones on the bus lane.

    Not ideal for wheelchair users but yes, that would have been another option, but I suspect no thought whatsoever was put in there.
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  • #1598
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I've never done that job so I'm only going by what I have seen before but I think the correct procedure would be to park there and make a temporary path using cones on the bus lane.

    Lot of work going on near me and that is what they have been doing if they need to work on or occupy the path they'll put out the cones and signs directing people and have these little yellow ramps to help those who need them on and off the road.
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  • #1599
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,634 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Not ideal for wheelchair users but yes, that would have been another option, but I suspect no thought whatsoever was put in there.

    I've seen it done before and I'm not sure people are supposed to be squeezing in between cherry pickers and the pole like that regardless of whether it a big or small gap
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  • #1600
    VonLuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    site_owner wrote: »
    this was 8.40am hundreds of kids walking to school and they block the path and bike lane to leave the bus lane free for a bunch of queue skippers

    Is that what they're doing? Queue skipping? Not doubting by the way, just asking.

    I've always wondered what the right approach is when there's a queue of traffic turning left. Are you allowed to queue in the left lane even if it turns into a bus lane or should you stay in the right lane (blocking traffic going straight) until a gap appears at the end of the bus lane?
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  • #1601
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    legally you cant use a bus lane to queue for the next left turn until the markings change, so everyone should be in the right lane instead of delaying every 15 out of clongriffin during "rush" hour.

    but you could say they "technically" aren't skipping the queue, as the queue to turn left is in the bus lane
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  • #1602
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Is that what they're doing? Queue skipping? Not doubting by the way, just asking.

    I've always wondered what the right approach is when there's a queue of traffic turning left. Are you allowed to queue in the left lane even if it turns into a bus lane or should you stay in the right lane (blocking traffic going straight) until a gap appears at the end of the bus lane?
    Legally going up until the lane opens up for left turning traffic is the correct action. There is a car that does this on the N11 every morning at Whites cross, and some get annoyed at him but he is following the rules and he also skips about 30 cars while doing so.
    site_owner wrote: »
    legally you cant use a bus lane to queue for the next left turn until the markings change, so everyone should be in the right lane instead of delaying every 15 out of clongriffin during "rush" hour.

    but you could say they "technically" aren't skipping the queue, as the queue to turn left is in the bus lane
    They are though, as in they think that they will get there quicker but typically they just get blocked there anyway, and if they had all turned out at the correct time at the end, it would have been the same time. More importantly that that though, they are blocking public transport users, one bus of which would be transporting more people than in the entire queue from the junction.
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  • #1603
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    site_owner wrote: »
    exactly, when they were working on the other side they could magically work from the road. some people just refuse to see the real issue.

    this was 8.40am hundreds of kids walking to school and they block the path and bike lane to leave the bus lane free for a bunch of queue skippers

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    If somebody is working in a basket at height the roadway underneath should be closed off because of the possibility of tools or parts falling.

    Personally I don’t have any problem with what they are doing, outside of not closing off the road and if it means stopping or slowing my cycle it’s just how it is.
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  • #1604
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,634 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    If somebody is working in a basket at height the roadway underneath should be closed off because of the possibility of tools or parts falling.

    Personally I don’t have any problem with what they are doing, outside of not closing off the road and if it means stopping or slowing my cycle it’s just how it is.
    I was saying that earlier that even if they park on the bus lane everything in between should be closed anyway
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  • #1605
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    DoraDelite wrote: »
    Not in this instance, he was going in the same direction as me. Instead of either waiting behind me in the same lane or switching lanes, he decided to close pass me with half the bus in my lane and half in the other. I was centre of my lane so it wasn't like I was in at the kerb and he thought he had room to squeeze by. It was not a error of judgement in this case and he topped it off by running the red light.

    It was criminal driving and while 99 times out of 100 you can get through that junction okay, it only takes that one. I did complain to Bus Eireann but I'm sure it got filed away in the "we don't care if our drivers kill a cyclist or pedestrian".

    Bus Eireann are incredibly poor in my opinion in their engagement on such issues, have requested video footage under GDPR and it kept getting back with a we are looking into it, and then no response until you follow up. Videos disappeared, I even had a helmet camera where the drive admitted it was malicious, nothing. Straight to the Gardai going forward, i wouldn't even go to them as its just wasting your time in the hope they don't get pinged on it.
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  • #1606
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Bus Eireann are incredibly poor in my opinion in their engagement on such issues, have requested video footage under GDPR and it kept getting back with a we are looking into it, and then no response until you follow up. Videos disappeared, I even had a helmet camera where the drive admitted it was malicious, nothing. Straight to the Gardai going forward, i wouldn't even go to them as its just wasting your time in the hope they don't get pinged on it.

    Yep, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Bus Eireann are utterly utterly, useless. I'd have thought it was in their interests to get these things right but apparently not. The next time a BE route 133 driver, who regularly pull stunts in and around the N11, tries one on me he'll be answering to the Guards. It may still not go anywhere but it will definitely soften the cough
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  • #1607
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Whats most annoying regards busses is that if you reported a private car pulling the same **** and the Garda did follow it to the end they'd have points. When was the last time anyone heard of a bus driver getting points?
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  • #1608
    wheelo01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭wheelo01


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Anything to be said for fighting out who doe their fleet insurance and start telling these companies that your letting insurers know?

    Gardai will only do so much and they know it.


    On my case, the gardai are checking for cctv they've told me.


    If you are talking of Bus Eireann, I presume they are the same as Dublin Bus, in that they don't hold insurance from an Insurance company, CIE hold a shed load of money (amount set by Dept of Transport, I think) aside in the case of any accident claim. So, they are their own insurers, if that makes sense.
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  • #1609
    velo.2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    ^^^Here you are...
    https://www.cie.ie/Who-We-Are/Organisation-Structure/Group-Risk#:~:text=Our%20history%20and%20experience%20in,specialist%20provider%20of%20such%20services.
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  • #1610
    wheelo01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭wheelo01


    I think the logic was that there was a pool of money there, and if it were invested properly (which somehow it has, not very CIE like at all) it would accrue any amount of claims accross the three companies.
    You have to remember the amount of public liability insurance, vehicle insurance, Etc. they would have. They also have their own legal dept. to - as you say avoid spineless insurance companies.
    If a Taxi insurance can be as much as 5 or 6,000 euro when the max passengers they can carry is 4, imagine what an insurane company could charge for 90 passengers.
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  • #1611
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    sy_flembeck wrote: »
    stunts in and around the N11, tries one on me he'll be answering to the Guards. It may still not go anywhere but it will definitely soften the cough
    Ha, it was the 133 that has been the cause of every issue I've ever had with BE.
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  • #1612
    crisco10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Weepsie wrote: »
    That seems completely absurd and like it would be rather more expensive than getting actual third party liability insurance but on the other hand it cuts out spineless insurance companies

    Plenty of large companies self-insure.
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  • #1613
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    buffalo wrote: »
    Interesting. 133 for the most deliberately malicious piece of driving I've ever encountered on the roads as well. Sprayed me with the wiper jets, then slowly squeezed me into the kerb over the course of several hundred metres, despite having two empty lanes to his right. I was so close to going under the back wheels.

    I should've gone to the Guards straight away, but didn't have a reg. BE didn't do anything, afaics.

    Same here, matched my speed on the N11 with two empty lanes to his right. Then merged into me, my rims were scratching the kerb as I slowed and my elbow was on the bus as I leaned over onto the footpath. He admitted it was intentional on video, and nothing. I remained quite calm. but in hindsight, while not a proponent of violence, I regret not pulling the stop engine lever when he was at the lights and then giving the Judge a good reason to give me a life sentence.
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  • #1614
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Weepsie wrote: »
    That seems completely absurd and like it would be rather more expensive than getting actual third party liability insurance but on the other hand it cuts out spineless insurance companies

    It's pretty standard for any company with a large fleet of vehicles.

    Either obtain insurance with significant individual claim excesses or a very large cumulative deductible (and sometimes a combination of both) - or else formally set up an internal captive insurer that can access the re-insurance market to cover off exceptionally large risks.
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  • #1615
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Same here, matched my speed on the N11 with two empty lanes to his right. Then merged into me, my rims were scratching the kerb as I slowed and my elbow was on the bus as I leaned over onto the footpath. He admitted it was intentional on video, and nothing. I remained quite calm. but in hindsight, while not a proponent of violence, I regret not pulling the stop engine lever when he was at the lights and then giving the Judge a good reason to give me a life sentence.

    Have had the exact same thing happen with a 133 on a Sunday morning on a completely empty n11 cos I wasn't in the shytty cycle lane :rolleyes:
    I've had several others with the 133 over the years.
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  • #1616
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    blackwhite wrote: »
    It's pretty standard for any company with a large fleet of vehicles.

    Either obtain insurance with significant individual claim excesses or a very large cumulative deductible (and sometimes a combination of both) - or else formally set up an internal captive insurer that can access the re-insurance market to cover off exceptionally large risks.

    Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann are two companies, that have insurance exemption.
    An Post may be another one.
    An Garda Siochana and the Irish Army also are exempt.
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  • #1617
    Steoller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Steoller


    Breezer wrote: »
    I hit a pedestrian yesterday evening. General traffic was stopped, queuing, he was looking to cross the road, and stepped out into the cycle lane, then paused.

    I was ready for it, and hit the brakes, but due to the wet and the wind being behind me, I slid into him. I managed to slow to the point that I came to a stop as I reached him, and the contact was basically a result of him putting his hands out. Neither of us were hurt, but we both got a shock.

    It was a lesson for me really, regarding the stopping power of my bike in the wet, and the invisibility of my 320 lumen front light.

    Deer in the bikelights moment?
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  • #1618
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,634 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Just managed to break in time before going into the back of a car yesterday I barely flicked his back bumper in the end.

    All caused by the car in front of me braking suddenly for pedestrians but the real cause was the taxi parked up on double yellows on a bend of 2 of the busiest streets in Limerick
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  • #1619
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,634 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Breezer wrote: »
    I don’t think so. I don’t think he saw me at all until he heard me skidding towards him. Onus was on me to see him, of course, which I did, I just couldn’t stop. Combination of wet weather, a tailwind and my tyres, I suspect. They’re threadless Schwalbe Kojaks. I should probably get something grippier for the winter.

    I felt very bad because when I realised he was fine, I just cycled off without saying anything. He was falling over himself apologising to me. I just got such a fright. If he happens to read this, I’m sorry for being a prick!

    Actually, on the subject of grippier tyres, I think someone here (CramCycle?) uses the Schwalbe Marathon Pluses. How do you find them for traction/braking in the wet? I love the durability of the Kojaks, but it’s not the first time I’ve had an issue with them in the wet (I skidded braking and went head over heels right in front of a security camera on the ramp into the car park at work last year!)

    I love using Schwalbe. I find they have the right balance between slick and grooved for someone like me why is very image conscious about my bike.

    Not sure how much better or worse than any other similar tyre they are but I like em
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  • #1620
    juicer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭juicer


    Breezer wrote: »


    Actually, on the subject of grippier tyres, I think someone here (CramCycle?) uses the Schwalbe Marathon Pluses. How do you find them for traction/braking in the wet? I love the durability of the Kojaks, but it’s not the first time I’ve had an issue with them in the wet (I skidded braking and went head over heels right in front of a security camera on the ramp into the car park at work last year!)


    I have those on my commuter.


    They aren't the fastest but are rock solid with good grip imo.


    An absolute pain to get on the rim though. I don't think I'd be able to change a tube at the side of the road. The puncture resistance is great so I doubt I'll ever need to.
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  • #1621
    John Hutton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    Marathons are ok for grip. Not the grippiest but I've never actually felt the need to put on anything grippier, so good enough but still be careful.

    There is a knack to getting them on the rim, (Zip ties are very helpful) but you won't want to be doing it on the side of the road in the rain. Touch wood I have never got a puncture with them through something sharp getting through the tire. Keep them pumped up though, I got a couple of pinch flats.
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