Are old fashioned dinners a thing of the past?

CelticRambler · 25-11-2020 05:37PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What even is this stew you all speak of? Is it like a curry but with no flavour?

Not if you have it in my house! Carrots fresh from the garden that taste like carrots; herbs fresh from the garden that taste like real herbs. The one in the freezer at the moment has added pulped tomatoes (fresh from the garden) and jalapeño chillis (fresh from the garden) to give it a bit of excitement. And no shop-bought stock of any kind. :cool:

meeeeh · 25-11-2020 05:37PM

Coddle doesn't appeal to me. I never tried it. We eat all sorts. Ham, potatoes, cabbage were on Sunday, we had stew about 10 days ago.

I'm not Irish so I didn't have some of traditional dishes until I moved here. One of the kids is picky as he'll but not for the lack of trying. We eat good variety of food from international to national dishes. For dinner we try to avoid processed foods so fish fingers won't be on the menu but otherwise it can be just about anything.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-11-2020 05:38PM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

This is a coddle I made for my family a few weeks ago. Some fundamentalists would argue that it's not pure because it has orange carrots, and everything should be pale, but I disagree. It was absolutely delicious. Really easy to make. Chop up some potatoes, carrots, rashers, sausages and onions. Parsnips are acceptable too. Add them to a pot of chicken stock. Throw in some barley and black pepper. Bring to the boil and simmer for for an hour.

If you look up recipes online, all you get is abominations. You do not cook it in an oven, and you do not brown the sausages or rashers first. This is the way.

Serve piping hot with some soda bread and more black pepper, washed down with a pint of mik.

They don't call it "mickey stew" for nothing.

Yeah i agree with not browning or roasting it in the oven or even salting. Browning and roasting would make it really tasty and proper coddle should not be tasty or involve any cooking craft. The cook should act as if they hate their life when they’re making it and expect to dislike it as you eat it.

It can be nice but normal cooking sense should be applied. It needs good flavoursome sausages and obviously brown the meat and veg before cooking. Roasting could add flavour too if you allow some bits to get crispy and browned.

Thelonious Monk · 25-11-2020 05:40PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

Not if you have it in my house! Carrots fresh from the garden that taste like carrots; herbs fresh from the garden that taste like real herbs. The one in the freezer at the moment has added pulped tomatoes (fresh from the garden) and jalapeño chillis (fresh from the garden) to give it a bit of excitement. And no shop-bought stock of any kind. :cool:

I mean that doesn't sound like an Irish stew, which is probably why it might actually taste like something!

CelticRambler · 25-11-2020 05:44PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

Not a farm anyway

Dinner at 12 noon

:eek: 'Round these parts, 12-noon is when the natives stop for their two-hour breakfast (dé-jeuner). You'd be hard pressed to get anyone to dine after that until about 20h00!

theteal · 25-11-2020 05:53PM

Born and reared (ooh matron) in Dublin 12 and never heard of Coddle until my mid-20s, cannot say the idea appeals - which probably means it's delish.

It's getting to the season for stews, they'll be back on the menu soon enough.

We probably do a roast once a month or so.

Gregor Samsa · 25-11-2020 06:09PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

It can be nice but normal cooking sense should be applied. It needs good flavoursome sausages and obviously brown the meat and veg before cooking. Roasting could add flavour too if you allow some bits to get crispy and browned.

No.

Cook it properly and taste it. It has plenty of flavour and a sublime texture. Perfection in a pot.

It's not coddle if it's got brown or crispy bits. Croddle, maybe. Cruddle? Codawful?

Gloomtastic! · 25-11-2020 06:18PM

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?
Do people still do stews?
Do people still do coddles?

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

So what's your opinion, if you refuse to answer, you'll get yesterdays leftover cabbage and potatoes for your dinner.

Still do a cooked dinner here every night and a big roast on Sundays. Dinner time is probably the only time during the day we get together as a family, albeit for 15/20 minutes.
You have to work around the don’t likes and can’t haves but give them good enough food and they’ll come to the table every time.

Gregor Samsa · 25-11-2020 06:26PM

I cook a dinner for the 5 of us every day (2 adults, 3 kids). We all sit down at the dining room table together around 6.30pm. I generally don't do anything special on a Sunday, but sometimes we'd have a roast, but it could be anything. Friday night is currently pizza night. One of my kids (7yo) is very adventurous with food and try absolutely anything. The other two are a bit more cautious, and have individual things they don't like, but they aren't too bad. None of them are teens yet, so it's easy enough to have them all in one place, eating a common meal. That will probably change over the next few years.

El Tarangu · 25-11-2020 06:30PM

Roast dinners are delicious, but even so, I wouldn't be bothered cooking one myself.

Stews are pleasant enough - a bit boring, and not really worth the effort, either.

Coddle is dirt - 'mmm, delicious unbrowned sausage texture" - ???

FTA69 · 25-11-2020 07:11PM

I’d have a roast most Sundays. Meat and two veg job a few days a week; I’ll also make something like a chilli or a curry which will do a few meals.

I don’t get this sneering at having spuds and brocolli and a bit of meat like; you’re not some super sophisticate because you eat lasagne or whatever instead.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-11-2020 07:25PM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

No.

Cook it properly and taste it. It has plenty of flavour and a sublime texture. Perfection in a pot.

It's not coddle if it's got brown or crispy bits. Croddle, maybe. Cruddle? Codawful?

If I cooked it properly it would have browned sausage, onion, carrot and bacon. No way that if bung it all in a pot of stock and boil it and consider it well cooked.

I’ve cooked it properly before with flavour, browning the ingredients and seasoning with salt and thyme. That doesn’t seem compatible with your version though.

It was poverty food but it doesn’t have to be devoid of flavour. Boiled sausages are about as good as they sound. Browned sausages which are then boiled are a different thing and can add great seasoning to the whole pot.

Old school Irish cooking can be a bit embarrassing, particularly when people mistake the poverty of the time the food enjoyed popularity with the methods of cooking. But, each to their own.

25-11-2020 07:39PM

Glurrl wrote: »

Yes, Slow cookers stews casseroles etc. We sit down every evening at the table and chat over dinner

Same. Stews, casseroles, hotpots, curries all done in the slow cooker, roasts at the weekend. There's nothing like the smell of something delicious hitting your nose when you come in from a cold day.

fits · 25-11-2020 07:42PM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I cook a dinner for the 5 of us every day (2 adults, 3 kids). We all sit down at the dining room table together around 6.30pm. I generally don't do anything special on a Sunday, but sometimes we'd have a roast, but it could be anything. Friday night is currently pizza night. One of my kids (7yo) is very adventurous with food and try absolutely anything. The other two are a bit more cautious, and have individual things they don't like, but they aren't too bad. None of them are teens yet, so it's easy enough to have them all in one place, eating a common meal. That will probably change over the next few years.

Same here. Down to the pizza on fridays. We do a mix of traditional to vegetarian. Just had bacon and turnip this evening. Hard to beat.

3d4life · 25-11-2020 07:43PM

El Tarangu wrote: »

...Stews are pleasant enough - a bit boring, and not really worth the effort, either.......?

Sooo worth the effort when you have nothing but can pull a few portions of stew out of the freezer

fonecrusher1 · 25-11-2020 07:47PM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Some fundamentalists would argue that it's not pure because it has orange carrots, and everything should be pale, but I disagree.

Some people would argue that looks like prison food on a bad day.

:pac:

Minier81 · 25-11-2020 07:53PM

Love a good stew. I am the queen of the one pot cooking. I'd say we do a mix of traditional and not. My stews are different to what my mother would have made (stuff like sweet potatoes or chickpeas)but a traditional dish none the less.

No way would I eat or cook coddle.

Roast dinner is yum but time consuming.

25-11-2020 07:54PM

I'm sure it's lovely, but that coddle thing looks really unappealing to me. I can't get past the unbrowned sausage.

jmlad2020 · 25-11-2020 07:56PM

Yea this does still exist in old fashioned and backward rural Ireland. Places like Donegal, Laois and Mayo. They still finish each meal with a pint of Milk followed by an emphatic and refreshing "aaaahhh" followed by wiping their mouths with their sleeves, and back to farming they go.

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2020 08:04PM

I love roasting a chicken and oven chips and drowning them in salt n vinegar and rich gravy and stuffing myself with it.

Followed up with Vienetta.

Melon to start.

Washed down with freeeeeeeeeeeeezing cold Lilt.

arctictree · 25-11-2020 08:07PM

Last Saturday, we had roast chicken, spuds and peas, all from our garden picked fresh. The chicken was killed and cleaned that morning by my 11 year old!

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2020 08:08PM

A dirty great big phucking grease riddled fry up .... baked beans and all, black puddin, white puddin, sausies , rashers , about 2-3 fried eggs and wiped down with almost hard burnt toast smothered in butter. Washed down with scalding hot tae.

25-11-2020 08:09PM

I still make my stew in a pot on the hob. I tried making it in a slow cooker but it just doesn't taste right, I think its because the stew doesn't actually simmer in a slow cooker, it just sits there. Same with bolognese. Much better cooked on the hob.

For dinner tonight I had roast chicken, roast potatoes, mash, peas, stuffing and gravy.

Not bad for a Wednesday night.

46 Long · 25-11-2020 08:10PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What even is this stew you all speak of? Is it like a curry but with no flavour?

So cool. So edgy.

the purple tin · 25-11-2020 08:12PM

Food aside. The sitting down as a family at the dinner table and turning off the telly putting away the phones and tablets to eat together, is on the way out unfortunately.

Thelonious Monk · 25-11-2020 08:14PM

46 Long wrote: »

So cool. So edgy.

I'm edgy? I honestly don't know what people mean when they say stew. I don't think I've ever had Irish Stew, which they sell in Irish pubs in USA etc. I've never had coddle either but knew it contained uncooked sausages. My mother grew up in England so I may have been spared this delicacy as a child.

smellyoldboot · 25-11-2020 08:16PM

Kylta wrote: »

Do people still do a sunday dinner, consisting of ham, roast, potatoes, cabbage?
Do people still do stews?
Do people still do coddles?

These days with most children, especially teenagers, not wanting this and only eating that, and people becoming vegans and vegetarians, people cutting down of different foods due to medical conditions etc.

So what's your opinion, if you refuse to answer, you'll get yesterdays leftover cabbage and potatoes for your dinner.

I had a turkey and ham dinner just over an hour ago with roast spuds, carrots etc. Sunday dinner still a big hit in the boot household.

Now it's got a lot of modern convenience involved: frozen carrots, goose fat roasties from a bag and turkey and ham pre-prepared from a local butchers but the concept is the same.

Kylta · 25-11-2020 08:17PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm edgy? I honestly don't know what people mean when they say stew. I don't think I've ever had Irish Stew, which they sell in Irish pubs in USA etc. I've never had coddle either but knew it contained uncooked sausages. My mother grew up in England so I may have been spared this delicacy as a child.

Try boiled sausages instead

3d4life · 25-11-2020 08:19PM

46 Long wrote: »

So cool. So edgy.

Thinking that cooking is something that someone else does - how cool would that be ?

Seamai · 25-11-2020 08:19PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

A dirty great big phucking grease riddled fry up .... baked beans and all, black puddin, white puddin, sausies , rashers , about 2-3 fried eggs and wiped down with almost hard burnt toast smothered in butter. Washed down with scalding hot tae.

It has to be tae with a fryup, coffee just doesn't cut it.

Are old fashioned dinners a thing of the past?

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