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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    As if the gardai are really gonna do anything anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    As if the gardai are really gonna do anything anyway

    IT depends-if they find the party was 'last minute' then they'll be fine...

    But if not, other media outlets will have a FIELD day blasting them for weeks and months.

    Fun times for the competition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    It was no way impromptu, cakes, balloons, and everyone there ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It was no way impromptu, cakes, balloons, and everyone there ffs

    Yup...

    Gonna be fun trying to explain that to an Oireachtas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Pictures of yer wan plastered all over the place,

    Were they always there?

    balloons. Just sprung up??

    Impromptu, my hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DelaneyIn


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It was no way impromptu, cakes, balloons, and everyone there ffs

    They really take us for mugs. Now wash your hands and pay them their €160.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Must say I got a laugh out of David McCullough on the Six One news introducing a story about himself breaking social distancing rules complete with his photo with Miriam and Phil Collins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Watched the late late on the dodgy box for the first time in years, christ it's awful virtue signalling tripe.

    Tuned in cos I heard Mary Robinson and Micheal J Fox were on.

    They really straw manned it by showing men from 1990 saying Women belong in the kitchen and for making babies ... even in 1990 that wasn't a general opinion, even nowadays you could find gob****es with the same opinion - doesn't reflect attitudes in todays society at all.

    And that band of women - awful ****e, "they won't make it to the top of the charts because of a conspiracy against women making it ..." ... NO, you won't make it to the top cos it's a terrible song !! - that's it .

    Defund that shyte .

    Happened to watch it last night. How to get a plug in for the Toy Show at every corner. And then watched the video and realised that a certain Irish Times journalist's twin girls got to that bizarre Christmas song all year on social media she's being posting videos of her twins singing, followed by allot of, they are wonderful.

    Who told you you could sing?

    The internet, social media, youtube, facebook, twitter and the world!


  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've just watched the news on BBC1, to catch the headlines, and then nipped over to RTE 6.1 news to complete my news fest for the evening.

    What occurred to me, and I'm surprised I hadn't copped this before, was that the BBC has one news presenter on, whereas RTE fields two. Now, Dee, there's a cost saving opportunity for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I've just watched the news on BBC1, to catch the headlines, and then nipped over to RTE 6.1 news to complete my news fest for the evening.

    What occurred to me, and I'm surprised I hadn't copped this before, was that the BBC has one news presenter on, whereas RTE fields two. Now, Dee, there's a cost saving opportunity for you.

    Ah but then Dee would counter that RTÉ doesn't provide individual regional news programmes and doesn't provide news on TV before 1pm!

    (Of course as a public service broadcaster it possibly should!) They can never win.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    Ah but then Dee would counter that RTÉ doesn't provide individual regional news programmes and doesn't provide news on TV before 1pm!

    (Of course as a public service broadcaster it possibly should!) They can never win.

    They used to provide the news before 1pm... it was hosted by Keelin Shanley. :( (RIP)

    There just wasn't a take for it, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Elmo wrote: »
    Ah but then Dee would counter that RTÉ doesn't provide individual regional news programmes and doesn't provide news on TV before 1pm!

    (Of course as a public service broadcaster it possibly should!) They can never win.
    There were some few attempts to set up local TV stations in the 1970s and 1980s but the scum in government at the time wanted to protect RTE. Even the whole 2FM thing was an attempt to protect their buddies in RTE. If Ireland had a more enlightened/non-gombeen broadcast industry, then the cities would have their own TV stations much like some of them have radio stations. However, RTE would always be just a Dublin station with vague affectations of relevance to Ireland. And that just doesn't bring in a wider audience in a tough market.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Slightly off topic.
    Why is there so many visitors to the RTE webpage from S. Korea.

    Visitors by Country

    Ireland
    73.2%
    United States
    8.4%
    South Korea
    4.5%

    https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rte.ie#section_traffic
    Because Alexa is rubbish. It gets some of its visitor stats from a browser plugin that records the sites a user visits. It is also wide open to being gamed for search engine optimisation purposes. Though given it is RTE, it is surprising that it doesn't have as many visitors from North Korea.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    jmcc wrote: »
    There were some few attempts to set up local TV stations in the 1970s and 1980s but the scum in government at the time wanted to protect RTE. Even the whole 2FM thing was an attempt to protect their buddies in RTE. If Ireland had a more enlightened/non-gombeen broadcast industry, then the cities would have their own TV stations much like some of them have radio stations. However, RTE would always be just a Dublin station with vague affectations of relevance to Ireland. And that just doesn't bring in a wider audience in a tough market.

    Regards...jmcc

    2000s had city channel on UPC

    TV3 should have been set up like ITV, but same old excuse we are a small country. Digital TV provide another opertunity but BAI ignored it thinking that pay tv might work on DTT when it failed to take hold in must countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,617 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I don't think we can count a few lads in the late 70s/early 80s who wanted to play pirate VHS films over the air as "regional broadcasting"

    National media is finding it hard enough at the moment, where's the advertising revenue to keep any sort of non-crap regional broadcaster on the air going to come from? The saorview network isn't set up for it either.

    Even in the UK, the audience for city based stations is tiny.

    We should have got local radio a lot sooner, but it's easily forgotten now that the UK had no non-BBC radio until the mid 70s and it took many years to roll out to the lower population regions.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Elmo wrote: »
    2000s had city channel on UPC

    TV3 should have been set up like ITV, but same old excuse we are a small country. Digital TV provide another opertunity but BAI ignored it thinking that pay tv might work on DTT when it failed to take hold in must countries.
    The problem with BAI is that it is a bunch of politically appointed people who were, and still are, quite clueless about Pay TV, Digital Tv and the Internet. When it came to Pay TV, there were a lot of Cargo Cult types who wouldn't have been out of place in the Irish Times "technology/lifestyle" section. The reasons why Pay TV didn't take off on DTT were simple. The programming wasn't there, the technology wasn't secure and the audience was too small. Ironically, RTE had a good DTT solution in the 1990s but it never got a chance. Instead there was this Dinny O'Brien abomination that crashed before launch:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_TV_Ireland

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    I don't think we can count a few lads in the late 70s/early 80s who wanted to play pirate VHS films over the air as "regional broadcasting"
    Was a bit more than that. These people were generally from Pirate Radio and Pirate Radio was more successful that RTE in their local markets. They represented a real commercial threat to RTE's advertising revenue.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    They used to provide the news before 1pm... it was hosted by Keelin Shanley. :( (RIP)

    There just wasn't a take for it, tbh.

    Maybe if the started at 6.30/7.00am instead of 9.00am when most people are gone to work it might have gone down a lot better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    National media is finding it hard enough at the moment, where's the advertising revenue to keep any sort of non-crap regional broadcaster on the air going to come from? The saorview network isn't set up for it either.

    I mean to say a regional set of broadcaster like ITV, with a composite company providing national programming. You'd possibly only get one Regional show, which may not be along county lines, instead areas would have to merge you'd probably only get 4 - 5 local areas, and would only marginally be along provincial lines, if even. By now there be local variants of Virgin Media as an entire company, much like what has happen with ITV.

    The local UK channels are not much more than community TV, with no national footprint, unlike ITV of old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    jmcc wrote: »
    Because Alexa is rubbish. It gets some of its visitor stats from a browser plugin that records the sites a user visits. It is also wide open to being gamed for search engine optimisation purposes. Though given it is RTE, it is surprising that it doesn't have as many visitors from North Korea.

    Regards...jmcc

    It might well be from NK...possibly some spies within South Korea using the player as a means to contact their handlers remotely. I mean....could you see any self-respecting South Korean cyber affairs investigator subjecting themselves to digging through the RTE Player for more than 5 seconds?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    mgn wrote: »
    Maybe if the started at 6.30/7.00am instead of 9.00am when most people are gone to work it might have gone down a lot better.

    I like to know more about Morning Edition and why the choose 9am until 11:50 for the programme. I think its a union thing.

    It had about a 5%, I wonder how well Dr. Phil does now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,948 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    It might well be from NK...possibly some spies within South Korea using the player as a means to contact their handlers remotely. I mean....could you see any self-respecting South Korean cyber affairs investigator subjecting themselves to digging through the RTE Player for more than 5 seconds?

    Perhaps it is a NK version of a numbers station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Dr golden 2


    It's funny how RTE tested out doing breakfast television for 2 weeks during 1984 Olympics and then nothing since 36 years later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Elmo wrote: »
    I like to know more about Morning Edition and why the choose 9am until 11:50 for the programme. I think its a union thing.

    It had about a 5%, I wonder how well Dr. Phil does now?

    Was it something like being not in direct competition with Ireland AM on TV3.

    It was a decent News program compared to the muck on Ireland AM, you wouldn't even call that news with a break every 5 minutes and full of adverts.


  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    It might well be from NK...possibly some spies within South Korea using the player as a means to contact their handlers remotely. I mean....could you see any self-respecting South Korean cyber affairs investigator subjecting themselves to digging through the RTE Player for more than 5 seconds?

    Noel Kelly do you mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Elmo wrote: »
    2000s had city channel on UPC
    A lot of vox pop interviews and some local businesses from what I remember. It was a good start but the problem was that most people never knew it existed. Still probably got more viewers than those late-night Oorts programmes on RTE. :)

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    jmcc wrote: »
    A lot of vox pop interviews and some local businesses from what I remember. It was a good start but the problem was that most people never knew it existed. Still probably got more viewers than those late-night Oorts programmes on RTE. :)

    Regards...jmcc

    It was only on Sky as well was it not?
    There's another Irish channel on Sky, or used to be, cannot remember the name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It was only on Sky as well was it not?
    There's another Irish channel on Sky, or used to be, cannot remember the name
    Think it was only on a channel on UPC cable. Sky decided to open a news bureau in Dublin and hired Grainne Seoige. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News_Ireland ). It didn't last long. Think that there were other Irish channels on Astra as well. (Might be worth asking in the Satellite TV forum.)

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Found it
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_TV

    Was supposed to be on Saorview but closed up
    Very limited line up but a portion of the licence fee wouldn't go amiss being allocated to independent broadcasters and make Saorview more interesting than the crap content it does have


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Found it
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_TV

    Was supposed to be on Saorview but closed up
    Very limited line up but a portion of the licence fee wouldn't go amiss being allocated to independent broadcasters and make Saorview more interesting than the crap content it does have
    The problem with Saorview is the audience size. The bulk of the population in Ireland is in cities with cable TV. It might be a good way to help grow Saorview but that gets into the whole Saorsat problem where RTE decided to put Saorview on a different satellite compared to the Astra satellites. It requires a different LNB and, at worst, a different dish. There are also Irish TV channels on the Sky/Astra package but they are encrypted. The copyright issue has made a mess of Irish satellite TV broadcasting. RTE's approach to Satellite TV doesn't seem to have changed since the 1980s. Ironically, Dee Forbes used to run Discovery Channel's UK/Ireland operation, I think, and would have more of a clue than the rest of RTE.

    The other aspect is that how people watch TV programmes has changed. It used to be synchronous (watch while the programme was broadcast). Then VCRs came along and that was the start of asynchonous viewing. (People could record what they wanted to watch and choose when to watch.) DVRs accelerated that shift. With the advent of high bandwidth Internet, people now watch streaming services and can watch TV programmes on various players. The demand for live viewing has declined but the demand for programming has exploded. RTE won't change as long as it is getting the licence fee and being bailed out by the government.

    Regards...jmcc


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