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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #1502
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,635 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    indicating does not give you right of way.


    Flashing orange lights on a car allow you to do whatever you like. Turn through people, park on double yellows, stop in the middle of roads
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  • #1503
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,686 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    Maybe I am missing a bit of the clip, but it looks like he indicated when the cyclist was behind, seem to be a cyclist error.

    Is that how you drive on a dual carriageway - indicate and pull across the inside lane of traffic assuming they will pull out of your way?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1504
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No excuse for the car but the guy does himself no favors either in that if he had to apply heavy breaking he only had one to choose from it was the one that was sending him over the bars. Was he on his phone there?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1505
    suffering golfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭suffering golfer


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    indicating does not give you right of way.

    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way. Cyclist could see clearly what happening and has time to react, he could have slowed down as the majority of cyclists would have done in that situation.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1506
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way. Cyclist could see clearly what happening and has time to react, he could have slowed down as the majority of cyclists would have done in that situation.

    Yeah but again this situation is not the same for cars travelling on a dual carriageway. You can't just pull across from the right lane and swing left, ignoring the car on your inside left.
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  • #1507
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,635 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It wouldnt have bothered me if I was on the bike. You can see him turning from a fair bit back. Its not the same as an overtake and turn
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1508
    VonLuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Car was in the wrong, but as a cyclist you should always be prepared for things like that. In an ideal world you shouldn't have to, but I always follow the mantra that cyclists are invisible to vehicles and you should try to behave like that's always the case.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1509
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,686 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way.

    Please tell me that you're not a driver. Please tell me you don't drive like this, slapping on your indicator to claim ' right of way and cutting up other road users?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1510
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,686 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No excuse for the car but the guy does himself no favors either in that if he had to apply heavy breaking he only had one to choose from it was the one that was sending him over the bars. Was he on his phone there?

    He had a coffee in his left hand and was tootling along a very gentle speed.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1511
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    The cyclist had stopped pedalling before the video even started, he was well prepared for it and slowing, I'd even go as far as to say he was letting the car go.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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  • #1512
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,635 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    CramCycle wrote: »
    The cyclist had stopped pedalling before the video even started, he was well prepared for it and slowing, I'd even go as far as to say he was letting the car go.

    Also everyone looks like they are going about 5kph
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1513
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way.


    The cycle lane has a solid white line - it's a distinct separate lane that's being crossed. If you're leaving your lane, you don't have priority over someone who's already in the lane.



    If it was a broken line then you'd be correct as both would be in the same lane - but that isn't the case here.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1514
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Clip isn't long enough to say for sure tbh. You're not allowed to overtake on the left while cycling if a vehicle ahead has indicitated left and it's likely they'll be turning before you overtake. As someone said above it's entirely possible the driver was indicating well in advance and the cyclist was holding back waiting for them to turn as they're supposed to. They were clearly waiting for them, not pedalling. Actually looks like they're concentrating on holding something in their left hand?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1515
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Of all the poor driving incidents that go on, this is simply not one of them based on the video. Cyclist has slowed / given way, video doesn't show anything much pre turn but based on that I would have to say that the cyclist not only expected it and gave way, he may have even signalled it as the car seems to be holding back until the cyclist has slowed.

    if I was driving, I wouldn't have turned but I see nothing dangerous there, and there is plenty to give out about on that road daily.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1516
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    CramCycle wrote: »
    if I was driving, I wouldn't have turned but I see nothing dangerous there, and there is plenty to give out about on that road daily.
    Last time I was driving in that situation I was given out to for waiting for them to overtake when they were waiting for me to turn, some people really don't like losing momentum!
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1517
    Kiss1037
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ✭Kiss1037


    blackwhite wrote: »
    The cycle lane has a solid white line - it's a distinct separate lane that's being crossed. If you're leaving your lane, you don't have priority over someone who's already in the lane.



    If it was a broken line then you'd be correct as both would be in the same lane - but that isn't the case here.

    Line looks like a broken line at the junction , Honestly, what is the correct protocol here as seems to always have 2 views is there consistency in the law or as usual just grey area
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1518
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Kiss1037 wrote: »
    Line looks like a broken line at the junction , Honestly, what is the correct protocol here as seems to always have 2 views is there consistency in the law or as usual just grey area

    Lines change to broken at a junction to indicate that it's legal to cross the lane. It doesn't change that the cycle lane is marked and signed as a mandatory cycle lane with a solid white before and after - with hours of operation indicated also

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3237934,-6.2510065,3a,66.8y,130.91h,93.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXUPTXA6Sjl1lFrWOYQbDFQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


    Further back (from Nightmarket back towards the city) is a non-Mandatory lane, and is marked as such with a broken line.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1519
    VonLuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Speaking of crossing cycle lanes, someone I know was in an incident a few weeks ago where he was cycling along and a car was crossing the road in front of him (perpendicular to the main road from a side road straight across to an entrance to a driveway). This was a reasonable distance ahead, maybe 50m. The car stopped in the middle of the road to let a pedestrian cross in front of his driveway, but the guy I know kept cycling on because the car was stopped and the bike lane was clear. Car moved off again, crossing the bike lane, and the guy I know slammed on his bike brakes to avoid a collision and flew head over heels.

    I thought he should have waited for the car to complete the movement as he could see what was happening, but I figure he thought it would be safe to do so with the bike lane free in that moment. There was a solid white line along the bike lane and based on previous comments that could be a factor?

    Seems very grey to me, but I wonder if he has a claim for the bit of damage to his bike.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1520
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,635 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Speaking of crossing cycle lanes, someone I know was in an incident a few weeks ago where he was cycling along and a car was crossing the road in front of him (perpendicular to the main road from a side road straight across to an entrance to a driveway). This was a reasonable distance ahead, maybe 50m. The car stopped in the middle of the road to let a pedestrian cross in front of his driveway, but the guy I know kept cycling on because the car was stopped and the bike lane was clear. Car moved off again, crossing the bike lane, and the guy I know slammed on his bike brakes to avoid a collision and flew head over heels.

    I thought he should have waited for the car to complete the movement as he could see what was happening, but I figure he thought it would be safe to do so with the bike lane free in that moment. There was a solid white line along the bike lane and based on previous comments that could be a factor?

    Seems very grey to me, but I wonder if he has a claim for the bit of damage to his bike.

    If he knew the car was trying to turn into the driveway and only stopped for a pedestrian ide say the cyclist was being selfish. He could either wait or if possible go round the outside of the turning car. Sounds like the kind of must pass driving we all hate
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1521
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,635 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    MojoMaker wrote: »
    Cyclist in the wrong here, or more to the point, car is not in the wrong - as hard as that is to admit. Another point - given Ranelagh is one of the tightest chokepoints on the City--> Southside rat corridors and extremely variable even on a good day, why would you choose to keep one hand occupied and not involved in controlling the bike??

    No coffee is that good!! :pac:

    I didn't notice the coffee first time but on first watch no one was at fault. A car slowly indicated and turned ahead of a bike that had plenty of time to saunter past. All I see is 2 considerate road users
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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  • #1522
    VonLuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I think the key point here is that both road users need to be aware of each other and assume they're going to the wrong thing, regardless of what the law says that they should do.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1523
    juicer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭juicer


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Quick question on garda traffic watch - how long does it usually take for the station to call back after you notify traffic watch of a dangerous/inconsiderate overtake?
    Phoned them on Monday morning and have heard nothing back since.


    Took them 2/3 days to contact me when I made a report a few months ago.
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  • #1524
    Don't Chute!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    I haven’t posted in this thread before because I don’t have a camera while cycling but this morning I had my absolute worst encounter yet. Coming from Delgany out onto the N11 just as I was merging from the slip road a boy racer type car absolutely blew past me. He was coming from Delgany too. I’m not exaggerating when I say he must have been doing between 120 and 140 kph. If I had bent my elbow outwards I would have hit the car. He left no room for error whatsoever. Was it deliberate? I wouldn’t be surprised. I was apoplectic shouting at him.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1525
    Truckermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I'm believe this is someone on here...
    https://twitter.com/alanstrainor/status/1327225149293260801

    It is indeed Alan lovely lad I'm delighted he reported it.
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  • #1526
    tnegun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Still nothing back on the incident I reported a month ago after a great response to the first two guards it was passed to its now been almost 3 weeks since it was assigned to a third and nothing yet. I left a message with the station to contact me at anytime to discuss but nothing yet.

    Looking back over my streamable heres two incidents from the same Airport Hopper driver. After much chasing the guard eventually said that there wasn't enough to prosecute anything.

    Make up your own minds. The pass https://streamable.com/vm6xo and his actions after I pulled him up on it. He drives right up to my back wheel then pulls along side me and pushes in on me https://streamable.com/exvcs
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  • #1527
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    Don't Chute! wrote: »
    I haven’t posted in this thread before because I don’t have a camera while cycling but this morning I had my absolute worst encounter yet. Coming from Delgany out onto the N11 just as I was merging from the slip road a boy racer type car absolutely blew past me. He was coming from Delgany too. I’m not exaggerating when I say he must have been doing between 120 and 140 kph. If I had bent my elbow outwards I would have hit the car. He left no room for error whatsoever. Was it deliberate? I wouldn’t be surprised. I was apoplectic shouting at him.

    That slip is lethal since they changed it. Most traffic entering the N11 treat it like a runway. Very difficult to negotiate even if you're on the N11 and tryong to pass it. I try to avoid if I can
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1528
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Don't Chute! wrote: »
    I haven’t posted in this thread before because I don’t have a camera while cycling but this morning I had my absolute worst encounter yet. Coming from Delgany out onto the N11 just as I was merging from the slip road a boy racer type car absolutely blew past me. He was coming from Delgany too. I’m not exaggerating when I say he must have been doing between 120 and 140 kph. If I had bent my elbow outwards I would have hit the car. He left no room for error whatsoever. Was it deliberate? I wouldn’t be surprised. I was apoplectic shouting at him.

    A thing I done many years ago before I got a helmet camera was strapping my sh1tty front light onto my helmet (not o pretend to be a camera but just it fitted there, but it looked like one). It probably wouldn't have changed this drivers behaviour but I have noticed that when I have some thing like that in a prominent position it reduces the number of close passes significantly
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1529
    Eleven Benevolent Elephants
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭Eleven Benevolent Elephants


    What about ordering a custom made hi Vis online with GARDA on it or GADRA (sic) to avoid being prosecuted for impersonation.

    It might slow people down and force them to overtake properly.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #1530
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,686 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »
    What about ordering a custom made hi Vis online with GARDA on it or GADRA (sic) to avoid being prosecuted for impersonation.

    It might slow people down and force them to overtake properly.

    Something like this from the UK?
    BACK-POLITE-THINK-BIKE-WAISTCOAT-BLACK-TAPE-CYCLING-MOTORBIKE-500x500_920x.jpg?v=1511867138

    There is a specific offence of impersonating a Garda, so tread carefully.
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  • #1531
    Eleven Benevolent Elephants
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭Eleven Benevolent Elephants


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »

    There is a specific offence of impersonating a Garda, so tread carefully.

    Does Gadra count though?

    I used to live in the Netherlands, whenever I see the polite vests around here for a second I instinctively think Politie (the Dutch for police).
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


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