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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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    #4592
    peteeeed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Is it possible to post in this Forum having wanted Trump to win ahead of Biden?

    Its simply not allowed in Current Affairs.

    of course , the morning before the trump collapse here was nothing but trump fans giving it loads but you are welcome
    a great lady once said when they go low we go high :)


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    #4593
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Irish Praetorian wrote: »
    It's certainly possible, but one might want to have one's facts and figures ready and not come with a persecution complex about how half the country is engaged in a conspiracy against him, including members of his own party and apparently the entire news media.

    Why not? Isn't this a discussion forum???


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    #4594
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    And just 4,169 votes remaining, at least until the 8,000 military and votes from abroad are included.


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    #4595
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Maricopa County count centre going into lockdown due to a large protest outside.


    I really dont understand why they are doing it, Arizona is the only one of the remaining states I see could change back to red.


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    #4596
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Why not? Isn't this a discussion forum???

    So discuss based on facts.


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    #4597
    useless
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭useless


    That project manager guy from Georgia on CNN now is loving the camera


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    #4598
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,935 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Why not? Isn't this a discussion forum???

    It’s a discussion forum, but not a free for all. This area of boards tries to take a slightly more grown-up fact based approach in terms of modding, with the more broad emotional opinions leaning more towards the Current Affairs/IMHO side. That’s the distinction between the threads.

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    #4599
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    useless wrote: »
    That project manager guy from Georgia on CNN now is loving the camera

    He even referred to 'Yankees' not knowing how to pronounce some county names correctly!

    I'd say he's a joy in the Country Club!


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    #4600
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    peteeeed wrote: »
    of course , the morning before the trump collapse here was nothing but trump fans giving it loads but you are welcome
    a great lady once said when they go low we go high :)

    I only logged in two days ago when it was already swinging for Biden.

    I just don't get why its open season on Trump over there but say anything against Biden and you're canned. Its bizarre on an Irish discussion forum that one of the US Presidential candidates needs to be protected from insult.

    But I can't bash this Forum for the behaviour of another!


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    #4601
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Why not? Isn't this a discussion forum???

    I think most of his supporters would best post on the Conspiracy Theory forum....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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    #4602
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    useless wrote: »
    That project manager guy from Georgia on CNN now is loving the camera

    From the moment that he arrived and gave out about the mics blocking his computer I knew he'd be a melt


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    #4603
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Rikand wrote: »
    If Biden loses Georgia by a narrow margin, but wins the election over all. Will he even bother with a recount ?

    Probably not - Why bother?

    Certainly wouldn't expect him to do it "just because".

    If the Democrat election monitors saw something to concern them then perhaps , but otherwise no.


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    #4604
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I only logged in two days ago when it was already swinging for Biden.

    I just don't get why its open season on Trump over there but say anything against Biden and you're canned. Its bizarre on an Irish discussion forum that one of the US Presidential candidates needs to be protected from insult.

    But I can't bash this Forum for the behaviour of another!

    What would you define as an insult? Please do bear in mind that the man "who needs to be protected from insult" has set the bar very low by his own rhetoric in the last number of years.

    He is the man who called Mexicans rapists and referred to woman as objects whose pussies he could grab at will.


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    #4605
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Probably not - Why bother?

    Certainly wouldn't expect him to do it "just because".

    If the Democrat election monitors saw something to concern them then perhaps , but otherwise no.

    I dont know, the more votes/winning of states the more legitimate his win is and Trump will end wasting more time and money suing another state


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    #4606
    abff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭abff


    I think the reason why the preponderance of posters here are in favour of Biden is because we are distant enough from the US to be able to see things objectively. And anyone with half a brain or with any moral compass can see what a blight on democracy Trump is.


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    #4607
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    It is a tedious, long wait.

    Will any MSM declare soon I wonder.


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    #4608
    Quin_Dub
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    Headshot wrote: »
    I dont know, the more votes/winning of states the more legitimate his win is and Trump will end wasting more time and money suing another state

    Maybe , but if everything else goes as is currently he'd be on 290.

    I guess a lot would depend on the state of all the other counts and challenges.


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    #4609
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    paul71 wrote: »
    Please do bear in mind that the man "who needs to be protected from insult" has set the bar very low by his own rhetoric in the last number of years.

    He is the man who called Mexicans rapists and referred to woman as objects whose pussies he could grab at will.

    No that's the other fella. I'm talking about Joe.
    paul71 wrote: »
    What would you define as an insult?
    I said Joe was in the early stages of senility and was banned. The post right above it had a tirade of abuse toward Trump (as does every 2nd post on the Forum) and those posters ain't touched.

    But my overall point is why should either of these two be protected from insult on an Irish msg board? I mean, what's the point?


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    #4610
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    No that's the other fella. I'm talking about Joe.


    I said Joe was in the early stages of senility and was banned. The post right above it had a tirade of abuse toward Trump (as does every 2nd post on the Forum) and those posters ain't touched.

    But my overall point is why should either of these two be protected from insult on an Irish msg board? I mean, what's the point?

    There has been ongoing warnings on that thread with regard to people making that unfounded claim.


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    #4611
    Irish Praetorian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Why not? Isn't this a discussion forum???

    I don't understand, do you mean why would one not want to come with their facts and figures straight? Well primarily because one might end up like so many others have; coming in, spouting off a bunch of half truths, empty cliches and plain falsehoods, ended up thoroughly roasted by a forum membership not willing to broach any nonsense, and then proclaiming oppression and suppression when they end up leaving or banned.

    I call this process the Brexiteer progression.


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    #4612
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭josip


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I said Joe was in the early stages of senility and was banned. The post right above it had a tirade of abuse toward Trump (as does every 2nd post on the Forum) and those posters ain't touched.

    But my overall point is why should either of these two be protected from insult on an Irish msg board? I mean, what's the point?


    It sounds like you have come here to discuss mod decisions from another thread?


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    #4613
    Quin_Dub
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    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    No that's the other fella. I'm talking about Joe.


    I said Joe was in the early stages of senility and was banned. The post right above it had a tirade of abuse toward Trump (as does every 2nd post on the Forum) and those posters ain't touched.

    But my overall point is why should either of these two be protected from insult on an Irish msg board? I mean, what's the point?

    That will get you a time-out here as well. That applies to Trump as well though.

    There is a higher standard expected here.

    Evidence and fact based discussion for the most part.

    Nicknames , Memes , Twitter dumps or long link dumps are also frowned on.

    The Forum rules are here

    Welcome though.


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    #4614
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Probably not - Why bother?

    Certainly wouldn't expect him to do it "just because".

    If the Democrat election monitors saw something to concern them then perhaps , but otherwise no.

    Why bother? Jeez! Imagine if you were one of the 1st time Black voters in an Atlanta poverty-stricken neighbourhood, and the guy you voted for didn't even bother to have your vote recognised if there was even a slim chance of overturning an initial result? Imagine if Biden didn't fight for EVERY single Electoral College vote and let Trump have GA's 16 EC votes, thereby narrowing the gap by 32, AND a few challenges or 'faithless electors' emerged elsewhere?? Count them all, and IF the result is close enough to warrant a re-count, count them again, entirely within the rules..

    And the same would apply to the Trump campaign if Biden wins by a re-count margin.


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    #4615
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    No that's the other fella. I'm talking about Joe.


    I said Joe was in the early stages of senility and was banned. The post right above it had a tirade of abuse toward Trump (as does every 2nd post on the Forum) and those posters ain't touched.

    But my overall point is why should either of these two be protected from insult on an Irish msg board? I mean, what's the point?

    And rightfully so, what a vile thing to say about someone, especially when there's absolutely no evidence to back that up whatsoever.
    And let's call a spade a spade, you're butthurt over the election, you want to whinge and moan and take away from Biden's victory, but this isn't your safe space where you can spout crap like that without repercussions.


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    #4616
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Why bother? Jeez! Imagine if you were one of the 1st time Black voters in an Atlanta poverty-stricken neighbourhood, and the guy you voted for didn't even bother to have your vote recognised if there was even a slim chance of overturning an initial result? Imagine if Biden didn't fight for EVERY single Electoral College vote and let Trump have GA's 16 EC votes, thereby narrowing the gap by 32, AND a few challenges or 'faithless electors' emerged elsewhere?? Count them all, and IF the result is close enough to warrant a re-count, count them again, entirely within the rules..

    And the same would apply to the Trump campaign if Biden wins by a re-count margin.

    I hear what you are saying , I just think that they'd need to have a degree of justification relative the the scatter-gun approach from Trump - Perhaps saying "It's less than 500 votes , we should double-check" is enough though


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    #4617
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Looking at that Github site, Trump has been on the brink of the threshold required to flip Arizona in the most recent vote bundles, but with 227,000 votes remaining, some of those outstanding could yet slow him down:

    https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html


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    #4618
    The Iron Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    CNN Tagline is "Sources: Frenzy in WH as realization Trump could lose sets in"

    Would love to be a fly on the wall in there.

    Am really hoping this election is called soon, it's seriously dragging on at this stage and another night of uncertainty into a weekend will be frustrating.


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    #4619
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    Looking at that Github site, Trump has been on the brink of the threshold required to flip Arizona in the most recent vote bundles, but with 227,000 votes remaining, some of those outstanding could yet slow him down:

    https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

    Thank you!!!! I have been keeping a spreadsheet similar to that to track the blocks for the last couple of days, now I can just leave it....:)


    Edit

    Except I was breaking it down to county level.


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    #4620
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,997 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    No problem with a recount or a judge looking into real problems, but saying the whole thing is corrupt is very dangerous and outrageous.


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    #4621
    The Iron Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    US Election: CNN’s John King wins Irish viewers’ votes

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/us-election-cnn-s-john-king-wins-irish-viewers-votes-1.4402639

    John King has been a revelation in analysis, a joy to watch.


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