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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #9212
    sheeplover55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭sheeplover55


    Anywhere else confirmed it yet, only a matter of hours I'd imagine


  • #9213
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,069 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Imagine if the democrats win the 2 senate seats in Georgia to take control of that house ... Conservatives will self combust :)

    Democrats are going to throw everything at them races, expect to see President elect Biden have rally’s across the state.


  • #9214
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,441 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Enquiring wrote: »
    Watching CNN here, talking about Biden being a leader and a hero. Can't be just me, I'm not impressed with Biden at all. I'm not an expert but I would say his victory is more down to people wanting Trump out more than wanting Biden in.

    2 years ago on here I was saying Biden would be the only one to beat Trump. Trump knew that himself hence the attempt to get dirt on Biden by asking Ukraine for which he was ultimately impeached.

    And Trump saw big rise in votes this time around but still lost...

    Democrats underestimated Trump in 2016 but Republicans massively underestimated Biden this time around. If I had a euro for every 'Biden is a terrible candidate' and/or 'landslide win for Trump' post i read on boards.ie over past 2 years I would be very rich.


  • #9215
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,056 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Which would lose them the WH in the US right now...

    If the Democrats want to consistently win in the Senate and indeed win the WH with the ease that they win the overall popular vote , they absolutely MUST find a way to connect with voters outside the Urban/Suburban areas.

    For all their merits , AOC et al are not that connection.

    Look at the Senate and House races - They did pretty poorly because they don't have a message to reach those voters.

    Equally - The GOP will never take back the house unless they find a way to connect with Urban voters.



    I wanted Sanders at the start of the year, but think that ultimately Biden was the right choice.
    It will be interesting to see how it plays out, this election could be an outlier in that all the focus on Trump made it a 'for him or against him' election even in relation to other races on the ballot.
    AOC et al (i.e. the squad) were all returned which I think is pretty significant in terms of 'the progressives'.

    What I am drawing from this election however, (and we are a long way from the dust settling) is that outside of urban areas, the country is hugely, overwhelmingly republican, or at least Pro-Trump and it is interesting to know is that because they are steadfast republicans, they are staunchly conservative, or they are simply Trump fans.

    Looking at the county by county preference (red v blue) for each state is incredible. Many states Biden won did so with only 20% or less of the counties voting for him (And I know, counties don't vote, people do) but it paints a picture of maybe it's not that the current progressives failed, but that the country is just not ready for progressive steps. And I think Trumps anti-science, anti-climate rhetoric was likely a significant influence in this respect.


  • #9216
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,621 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    That news of Fox is ironic because they have Biden closest to 270 because of the early call of AZ. So they'll be the first to call him winner of the election but won't call him President elect owing to the legal actions.

    This too shall pass.



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  • #9217
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,771 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Don't forget McConnell in the Senate - there's more than one leg to the US government.

    Indeed - He won't let a single thing through.

    There will need to be significant spending to dig the US out of the hole it's in and McConnell won't approve a penny.


  • #9218
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Don't forget McConnell in the Senate - there's more than one leg to the US government.

    Plus they lost seats in the house.


  • #9219
    Enquiring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Enquiring


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    2 years ago on here I was saying Biden would be the only one to beat Trump. Trump knew that himself hence the attempt to get dirt on Biden by asking Ukraine for which he was ultimately impeached.

    And ultimately Trump saw big rise in votes this time around but still lost.

    Democrats underestimated Trump in 2016 but Republicans massively underestimated Biden this time around. If I had a euro for every 'Biden is a terrible candidate' and/or 'landslide win for Trump' post i read on boards.ie over past 2 years I would be very rich.

    We don't know if anyone else would have won, we'll never know but I think they would have had. Biden didn't get the record level of votes for his charisma, that's for sure.


  • #9220
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,500 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ElitesTeam wrote: »
    Fake votes to win an election how sad for the demacorrupts

    tenor.gif


  • #9221
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,664 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Enquiring wrote: »
    We don't know if anyone else would have won, we'll never know but I think they would have had. Biden didn't get the record level of votes for his charisma, that's for sure.

    Yeah it's hard to know how much of the Dem vote were pro-Biden or more anti-Trump


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  • #9222
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Imagine if the democrats win the 2 senate seats in Georgia to take control of that house ... Conservatives will self combust :)

    Democrats are going to throw everything at them races, expect to see President elect Biden have rally’s across the state.

    They will be almost as significant as the presidential election and interest will be just as high.


  • #9223
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    Pennsylvania Update: 23,277 Votes Found in Philly — ALL OF THEM GO TO BIDEN

    poor auld saddam didn't get that much


  • #9224
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    some of camp trump urging him to concede. but most telling him to "fight" on.


  • #9225
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    ElitesTeam wrote: »
    Fake votes to win an election how sad for the demacorrupts

    Proof? Or is this another conspiracy theory?


  • #9226
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,436 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    ElitesTeam wrote: »
    Fake votes to win an election how sad for the demacorrupts
    How original.
    Any evidence of this?
    Nope.
    Trump can't just stop the vote when he is winning lol...no matter how much he cries and stomps his feet. He will be laughed out of the courts.
    Such a bad loser, zero dignity, can't say I am surprised.


  • #9227
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    Pennsylvania Update: 23,277 Votes Found in Philly — ALL OF THEM GO TO BIDEN

    poor auld saddam didn't get that much

    Philly? You think maybe there's a couple of guys who are up to no good? Starting making trouble in the neighborhood?


  • #9228
    WrenBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I wanted Sanders at the start of the year, but think that ultimately Biden was the right choice.
    It will be interesting to see how it plays out, this election could be an outlier in that all the focus on Trump made it a 'for him or against him' election even in relation to other races on the ballot.
    AOC et al (i.e. the squad) were all returned which I think is pretty significant in terms of 'the progressives'.
    Can I ask why you think Biden is the best man for the job ? Besides being able to beat Trump in the election, why do you think he's the best to lead America ? I've read his policy on his site, just interested in your view on his impending presidency.
    Tell me how wrote: »
    What I am drawing from this election however, (and we are a long way from the dust settling) is that outside of urban areas, the country is hugely, overwhelmingly republican, or at least Pro-Trump and it is interesting to know is that because they are steadfast republicans, they are staunchly conservative, or they are simply Trump fans.

    Another option is they don't see the Democrat party as a party for them or that they don't align close enough with their values and there is no where else for them to go in a two party system.


  • #9229
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,069 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    They will be almost as significant as the presidential election and interest will be just as high.

    John King is going to be busy again :)


  • #9230
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,500 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    Pennsylvania Update: 23,277 Votes Found in Philly — ALL OF THEM GO TO BIDEN

    poor auld saddam didn't get that much

    When did Saddam run for office in Philly?


  • #9231
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,441 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Enquiring wrote: »
    We don't know if anyone else would have won, we'll never know but I think they would have had. Biden didn't get the record level of votes for his charisma, that's for sure.

    Bidens charisma is clearly there. Charisma does not equal being loud and brash!

    And we do have a fair idea. No other Dem candidate not Warren, not Sanders, not Beto, not Harris, not Bloomberg beats Trump in rust-belt.


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  • #9232
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    flipadelphia-always-sunny_2.png

    Flipadelphia :D


  • #9233
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    Pennsylvania Update: 23,277 Votes Found in Philly — ALL OF THEM GO TO BIDEN

    poor auld saddam didn't get that much

    https://www.dw.com/en/dw-fact-check-debunking-election-misinformation-online/a-55507603


  • #9234
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,986 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Strong signs of an emerging Biden Derangement Syndrome outbreak in this thread. Sad!

    Unfortunately the Derangement Syndrome has changed meaning now and it can be applied to all Biden supporters on here!


  • #9235
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    Pennsylvania Update: 23,277 Votes Found in Philly — ALL OF THEM GO TO BIDEN

    poor auld saddam didn't get that much

    https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1324523204665368576


  • #9236
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,545 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    ElitesTeam wrote:
    Fake votes to win an election how sad for the demacorrupts
    I dont know whether to pity you or not. Hard to believe that anybody who can spell and make up words is that stupid.


  • #9237
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    It's been quite a ride.

    You forgot this one

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115129465&postcount=7426


  • #9238
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    ElitesTeam wrote: »
    Fake votes to win an election how sad for the demacorrupts

    Georgia has a Republican Governor (big Trump fan), Republican Secretary of State, Republican controlled Legislature - are they all in on the Fake Votes?? Give it a rest bud.


  • #9239
    KilOit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Chris Wallace is the only voice of reason in Fox, he won't go with that bs of not saying president elect


  • #9240
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,434 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    Pennsylvania Update: 23,277 Votes Found in Philly — ALL OF THEM GO TO BIDEN

    poor auld Saddam didn't get that much

    FALSE

    Saddam Hussein won 100% of the presidential vote in 2002
    Choice Votes %
    For 11,445,638 100
    Against 0 0.0
    Invalid/blank votes -
    Total 11,445,638 100


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  • #9241
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,928 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Indeed - He won't let a single thing through.

    There will need to be significant spending to dig the US out of the hole it's in and McConnell won't approve a penny.

    there are 2 senate runoffs in january so all hope is not lost


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