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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #8402
    Laois_Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    No ,A presidential pardon can cover anything really

    This was how the Nixon one was described -



    So Pence or whatever could just slap a timescale on it covering everything up to the day of the pardon.,


    Now ,it was never challenged in court as no one went after Nixon so hard to know if it would survive a legal challenge but it has been done.

    Wouldn't stop the State level charges though.

    Nixon was never gonna try to get reelected

    If there's a looming threat of Trump running again in 2024, there's plenty of motivation for lots of people, even many Republicans (including Pence who will be eyeing up 2024 for himself), to go after him!


  • #8403
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,457 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss.

    Alright i'll bite.

    For $500, name which of the trump children are banned from running a charity and why they are banned from running a charity?

    The daughter he pretends doesn't exist?

    Don't even know her name.


  • #8404
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    The fraudulent votes that have Biden winning. You will see when the cases go to the Supreme Court. Out of interest do you think there is none?

    There is zero evidence of systemic or widespread voter fraud. Zero. Unless you can show us otherwise?


  • #8405
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,338 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    mouldybiscuits wrote: »
    I'm sure an investigation will get to the bottom of it if there was cheating in the election. Twitter and the MSM are disgraceful, attempting to silence Trump before any investigation into these allegations. It's making me think they have something to hide.

    Allegations require proof if they’re going to be investigated, there is none. Nobody is silencing trump. Twitter are putting warnings on his tweets that contain false or misleading info but you can still view them, they aren’t deleted.


  • #8406
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    The fraudulent votes that have Biden winning. You will see when the cases go to the Supreme Court. Out of interest do you think there is none?

    If the Dems had a mind to engage in large scale voting fraud, do you not think that they would have focussed their attention on stacking the senate? It’s a pretty rubbish and pointless fraud otherwise....


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  • #8407
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Boggles wrote: »
    The daughter he pretends doesn't exist?

    Don't even know her name.

    its her.

    2Zk4.gif


  • #8408
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    But, oddly enough, Biden comes with actual policies on a website. There was some guy repetitively posting "What are Biden's policies" earlier but he never thought to turn his question into a google search. It's a shame really. If he had figured out that he could google such things, he might have been less confused.

    It's because of Google's control on their industry that people are less informed.

    More sources available, fewer informed people.. (or more people informed by the message if the highest bidder)


  • #8409
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,834 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Your fears are misplaced. There won't be any violence from Trump supporters - the odd loon aside - you will always get idiots in any crowd.

    I did want Trump to win but this is now becoming a slow-motion car crash. I had hoped Trump would see sense by now and plot a gracious exit. However seeing the headlines of his speech last night it seems he has firmly dug his trench.

    This could be messy. Hopefully his family can talk some sense into him and get him to concede.

    He's just taking the pose of someone "going down fighting." He knows it's over and won't do anything seriously harmful.


  • #8410
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,921 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Boggles wrote: »
    Have we a total of how much collectively will be lost to the bookies by all those "users" so eager to post their betting slips a couple of nights ago?

    well its set to be the biggest betting event of all time, with over 1 billion being wagered globally


  • #8411
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,923 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Boggles wrote: »
    The daughter he pretends doesn't exist?

    Don't even know her name.

    trump himself defrauded a charity of 2M https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/nyregion/trump-charities-new-york.html


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  • #8412
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Big fan of Biden, are you?

    Wouldn't say fan. It would be strange to be a fan of a politician . I'd never judge though . Each to their own


  • #8413
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    omega man wrote: »
    Sizeable enough military vote yet to be counted in Georgia. Worth noting.
    Ive no doubt the military support for trump has declined but it must be a threat to Biden.

    "Military vote" can be a bit deceptive. It's shorthand for the military and overseas vote, but a lot of that is actually civilian diplomatic/support staff etc

    Plus a lot of military voters from Georgia are from black or poor backgrounds, using the military as a route to college etc, rather than just being the stereotypical flagwaving aviator jarhead type. His son's service makes him an easier sell to those guys than you might imagine too anyway.

    It could plausibly break more than 50/50 in Biden's favour,


  • #8414
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭omega man


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    "Military vote" can be a bit deceptive. It's shorthand for the military and overseas vote, but a lot of that is actually civilian diplomatic/support staff etc

    Plus a lot of military voters from Georgia are from black or poor backgrounds, using the military as a route to college etc, it could conceivably break more than 50/50 in Biden's favour.

    Great points, thanks.


  • #8415
    ElChe32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    PalLimerick wrote:
    Yes, half a dozen million. Not me or you will decide this. It will be the courts. Trump knew this would happen, that's why he appointment ACB to even things out. He will win through the SCOTUS.


    I'll have whatever you are smoking. Go away out of it. Didnt think there were many Trumpists left in this thread, they've all gone into their bunkers.


  • #8416
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If the Dems had a mind to engage in large scale voting fraud, do you not think that they would have focussed their attention on stacking the senate? It’s a pretty rubbish and pointless fraud otherwise....

    Ah stop with your logic please. The Trumpists will be all confused.


  • #8417
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If the Dems had a mind to engage in large scale voting fraud, do you not think that they would have focussed their attention on stacking the senate? It’s a pretty rubbish and pointless fraud otherwise....
    They made this very point on CNN last night - how this great fraud conspiracy only seemed to target Trump when, if it were a thing, would surely have targeted all the seats that were up (something the commentator pointed out that the Republicans have done pretty well on).


  • #8418
    PalLimerick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Can you provide proof of fraudulent voting?

    Me, myself? No, but there is plenty of proof coming from Americans that tried to vote and we're refused, some even Democrats. Now to you, where is the proof the Trump's are "****ting" it from breaking laws?

    From your reply, I'm guessing you don't have any! The Trumps are going nowhere, this will be won through the SCOTUS. And on an off chance it's ruled in Bidens favour. Donald Jr. will be back in 2024. It's wishful thinking they're going to prison. They definitely are not. It's also wishful thinking that they have 60+ million voters behind them and they are going to disappear. A Political Dynasty has started. They will be around for many many Years to come.

    They may even start a new Political Party.


  • #8419
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Your fears are misplaced. There won't be any violence from Trump supporters - the odd loon aside - you will always get idiots in any crowd.

    I did want Trump to win but this is now becoming a slow-motion car crash. I had hoped Trump would see sense by now and plot a gracious exit. However seeing the headlines of his speech last night it seems he has firmly dug his trench.

    This could be messy. Hopefully his family can talk some sense into him and get him to concede.

    Can't expect someone who has never shown any grace to suddenly do so.
    As for the family, take it you're ignoring the sons Twitter comments when talking about sense.


  • #8420
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    Yes, half a dozen million. Not me or you will decide this. It will be the courts. Trump knew this would happen, that's why he appointment ACB to even things out. He will win through the SCOTUS.

    Zero evidence. ZERO.


  • #8421
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    The fraudulent votes that have Biden winning. You will see when the cases go to the Supreme Court. Out of interest do you think there is none?

    How many do you you think there are? Enough to flip a state for a candidate?


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  • #8422
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,023 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Biden ahead in Georgia. That's it unless the trend changes for the last handful.


  • #8423
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    Me, myself? No, but there is plenty of proof coming from Americans that tried to vote and we're refused, some even Democrats. Now to you, where is the proof the Trump's are "****ting" it from breaking laws?

    From your reply, I'm guessing you don't have any! The Trumps are going nowhere, this will be won through the SCOTUS. And on an off chance it's ruled in Bidens favour. Donald Jr. will be back in 2024. It's wishful thinking they're going to prison. They definitely are not. It's also wishful thinking that they have 60+ million voters behind them and they are going to disappear. A Political Dynasty has started. They will be around for many many Years to come.

    They may even start a new Political Party.

    There has been no proof at all. There have been a number of hoaxes aimed at rubes, but you can't mean those.

    I would absolutely love for the Trumps to start their own political party btw.


  • #8424
    TomSweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    it looks like biden may well get 300+ electoral college votes


    OK fine, in a way I hope he does to avoid all this supreme court ****e (allthough that could be quality entertainment)


    But the slowing down of these counts is suspicious as f*ck, put the hatred for Trump aside for a moment and look at it neutrally, if this was happening the other way the media would be all over it and twitter wouldn't be suppressing it.


  • #8425
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss.

    Alright i'll bite.

    For $500, name which of the trump children are banned from running a charity and why they are banned from running a charity?
    Boggles wrote: »
    The daughter he pretends doesn't exist?

    Don't even know her name.

    Is it all of them?


  • #8426
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If the Dems had a mind to engage in large scale voting fraud, do you not think that they would have focussed their attention on stacking the senate? It’s a pretty rubbish and pointless fraud otherwise....

    Exactly -They planned the biggest and most coordinated attack on Modern democracy in history

    And that plan was to lose the Senate , Reduce their majority in the House and only win the Presidency by what will probably be at most 200,000 votes across 4 or 5 States out of ~150M votes cast.

    Surely if you were planning on sending in hundred of thousands of fraudulent votes you'd at least vote Straight ticket to make sure that you got the Senators and Congress people as well??

    I mean , all that planning and they forgot that one bit???


  • #8427
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,457 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Great stuff Joe

    Never in doubt . Well done America
    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Ok folks

    That's me done for the day. My job entails that i dont miss a second of this and boards would be a distraction .

    Remember , not the President they want but the President they need. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

    See you guys in the morning when i will go into full detail regarding Trumps victory and what it means for Ireland going forward

    DMs open if needed urgently

    Have you been fired?

    :pac:


  • #8428
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    "There's no evidence of voter fraud" say the people who spent 4 years accusing Russia of interfering in the last election without any proof.


  • #8429
    jaykay74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    It's also wishful thinking that they have 60+ million voters behind them and they are going to disappear. A Political Dynasty has started. They will be around for many many Years to come.

    They may even start a new Political Party.

    That would be amazing for the democrats. Split the republican vote so both Trump and the GoP are totally irrelevant.


  • #8430
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    OK fine, in a way I hope he does to avoid all this supreme court ****e (allthough that could be quality entertainment)


    But the slowing down of these counts is suspicious as f*ck, put the hatred for Trump aside for a moment and look at it neutrally, if this was happening the other way the media would be all over it and twitter wouldn't be suppressing it.

    What are you talking about "slowing down of counts"?


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  • #8431
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,210 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Some people are saying the door is open for Trump to run in 2024 if he wants, doubt he will because he would be 78 by then.

    Wouldn't be surprised if Don Jr threw his hat in the ring in 4 years time though.


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