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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #8282
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Biden up by 917 in georgia


  • #8283
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Allegations and anecdotes are not evidence and people forget that the Supreme Court is not a trial court. If the elections have been conducted in accordance with the state laws (as seems they are) then there is nothing for them to adjudicate on.

    And also the legacy of a Supreme Court justice is a matter of significant historical record. Even the likes of Coney Barrett will not want their legacy to be smeared by allegations that they pulled a stroke for Trump. They have lifetime appointments - they no longer have any need to be loyal to Trump.

    People seem to be suggesting that her and other right wing appointees would destroy their reputation and up end democracy by nullifying a lawful election in order to keep Trump in the White House.


  • #8284
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Biden is leading!


  • #8285
    paddythere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Allegations and anecdotes are not evidence and people forget that the Supreme Court is not a trial court. If the elections have been conducted in accordance with the state laws (as seems they are) then there is nothing for them to adjudicate on.

    And also the legacy of a Supreme Court justice is a matter of significant historical record. Even the likes of Coney Barrett will not want their legacy to be smeared by allegations that they pulled a stroke for Trump. They have lifetime appointments - they no longer have any need to be loyal to Trump.

    Legacy? These people are TRUE BELIEVERS. They genuinely believe they are fighting a hostile enemy. They see themselves as true patriots. Put yourself in their shoes for a second and use their logic.


  • #8286
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Have any Republican politicians, including Pence, come out in any way supportive of Trumps allegations about voter fraud last night.
    I'm not expecting them to condemn him but surely silence is damning enough.

    edit
    Sorry just saw post above re Tweets


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  • #8287
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,595 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    tigger123 wrote: »
    People seem to be suggesting that her and other right wing appointees would destroy their reputation and up end democracy by nullifying a lawful election in order to keep Trump in the White House.

    The easiest out for them would be to simply not take on the case if the evidence/case isn't strong enough.


  • #8288
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    paddythere wrote: »
    Legacy? These people are TRUE BELIEVERS. They genuinely believe they are fighting a hostile enemy. They see themselves as true patriots. Put yourself in their shoes for a second and use their logic.

    Even Kavanaugh and Gorsuch have shown they will apply the law and have gone against Trump in a number of cases recently.


  • #8289
    paddythere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    tigger123 wrote: »
    People seem to be suggesting that her and other right wing appointees would destroy their reputation and up end democracy by nullifying a lawful election in order to keep Trump in the White House.

    Again, you're assuming they would see the decision as destroying their legacy and ending democracy- they would not see it that way, they buy into the Trump worldview.


  • #8290
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭omega man


    Georgia is the insurance policy.


  • #8291
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    joe40 wrote: »
    Have any Republican politicians, including Pence, come out in any way supportive of Trumps allegations about voter fraud last night.
    I'm not expecting them to condemn him but surely silence is damning enough.


    Lindsay Graham is the only one im aware of whos been openly spewing the same stuff


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  • #8292
    KilOit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Don't know how all this won't lead to bloodshed reading comments here https://thedonald.win/
    Trump campaign and fox need to stop inciting violence, people are reading it as a call to arms


  • #8293
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Biden just went 1/40 on PP. :)


  • #8294
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Biden now leads Georgia by 900


  • #8295
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,665 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Biden leads in Georgia


  • #8296
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Per CNN - Georgia just flipped to Biden


  • #8297
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I'm not sure it will inevitably go to SCOTUS.

    It won't. I think the SC mainly looks at principles, such as the principle of intent with chad voting. Hard to see what principle is at stake here. There's no evidence of fraud. And Pennsylvania state seems to be run by Republicans; legislature, election commissioners. They agreed vote by mail and that they'd be counted last.
    Anyways Georgia will make PA look moot thankfully.


  • #8298
    Iscreamkone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Biden to win 2020
    Trump to go again in 2024 and become only the second president ever to win non consecutive terms.
    Doing a Grover - after The 22nd and 24th President, Grover Cleveland.


  • #8299
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    This feels like a really slow, protracted, Christmas morning.


  • #8300
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    cj maxx wrote: »
    Biden leads in Georgia

    Yeehaw. Game over.


  • #8301
    85603
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    KilOit wrote: »
    Don't know how all this won't lead to bloodshed reading comments here https://thedonald.win/
    Trump campaign and fox need to stop inciting violence, people are reading it as a call to arms

    Wow. America is really crazy.

    So glad I live in the EU.


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  • #8302
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Still quite a few outstanding votes in GA so the gap should get a good bit bigger. Some counts may not finish until tomorrow.


  • #8303
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    KilOit wrote: »
    Don't know how all this won't lead to bloodshed reading comments here https://thedonald.win/
    Trump campaign and fox need to stop inciting violence, people are reading it as a call to arms

    Your fears are misplaced. There won't be any violence from Trump supporters - the odd loon aside - you will always get idiots in any crowd.

    I did want Trump to win but this is now becoming a slow-motion car crash. I had hoped Trump would see sense by now and plot a gracious exit. However seeing the headlines of his speech last night it seems he has firmly dug his trench.

    This could be messy. Hopefully his family can talk some sense into him and get him to concede.


  • #8304
    Maxpfizer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Trumps outgoing comments are awful....
    "the election is rigged...." as an example.

    Many people will probably adopt that narrative and all it will do is cause unrest if Joe Biden wins the presidency. Awful, awful, awful thing to do especially now in the middle of a pandemic with many people sick and dying over there. He never gave a sh1te about the pandemic and the health and care for his people with the novel coronavirus.

    When Trump became president in 2016 all it did was cause unrest.
    A lot of that unrest was based on supposed links to Russia.

    This is the problem when people are treating an election like Manchester United vs Liverpool. When our team does something the other side are sore losers for moaning about it but when they get something in their favor it's a bloody disgrace.

    Nobody really seemed to care too much about all the unrest during the summer because it was mainly directed at Trump.

    Now suddenly people on the other side are taking to the streets during a pandemic and we care so much and it's completely out of order.

    Trump is divisive. No doubt. No question. His behavior now is troubling to say the least.

    He didn't do all of this on his own though.


  • #8305
    NabyLadistheman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    It's going to be a landslide. Beautiful


  • #8306
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Iscreamkone wrote: »
    Biden to win 2020
    Trump to go again in 2024 and become only the second president ever to win non consecutive terms.
    Doing a Grover - after The 22nd and 24th President, Grover Cleveland.

    I don't see it; he got a big repudiation here.

    It's not like people went against the republicans; they didn't lose the senate and gained in the house. They were all on the same ballot.

    As soon as he's gone, they are going to treat him like Liverpool did Roy Hodgson... pretend like he never existed.


  • #8307
    donvito99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I had hoped Trump would see sense by now and plot a gracious exit.

    Have you been in a coma the last 5 years?


  • #8308
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    It won't. I think the SC mainly looks at principles, such as the principle of intent with chad voting. Hard to see what principle is at stake here. There's no evidence of fraud. And Pennsylvania state seems to be run by Republicans; legislature, election commissioners. They agreed vote by mail and that they'd be counted last.
    Anyways Georgia will make PA look moot thankfully.

    Indeed. I dislike the stacking of the courts and I am sure they will be biased but you have to give them something to base their ruling on. Democrats are worried about the courts for when things get close in the supreme Court. This is a complete joke that I doubt even ABC would bother with.


  • #8309
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    "voting fraud.... corrupt.... rigged"

    These are the words Trump is coming out with, with the election results with Biden in the lead.

    It's a dangerous narrative to spin to his people and shows he's being a sore loser.


  • #8310
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,921 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Biden to take PA and Georgia

    Delicious


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  • #8311
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Your fears are misplaced. There won't be any violence from Trump supporters - the odd loon aside - you will always get idiots in any crowd.

    I did want Trump to win but this is now becoming a slow-motion car crash. I had hoped Trump would see sense by now and plot a gracious exit. However seeing the headlines of his speech last night it seems he has firmly dug his trench.

    This could be messy. Hopefully his family can talk some sense into him and get him to concede.
    Oh sweet Summer child...


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