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    Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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    • #6302
      Quin_Dub
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      wirelessdude01 wrote: »
      Jesus having to worry about the safety of elections staff and also their families. Talking about checks on vehicles.

      That was something that struck me earlier..

      Some sham decides that the way to "stop the count" is to burn down the count centre.

      There are nutters on all sides , but only one candidate is ranting for the last 36hrs about fraud and theft and and and..

      I have a terrible feeling that there is going to be some kind of tragic incident somewhere.


    • #6303
      duffman13
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      perrito caliente wrote: »
      Trump has really energised politics in America. Whether you love him or hate him he'll go down as one of America's greatest presidents. People are still talking about Julius Caesar, and they'll still be talking about Donald Trump in five hundred years time too.

      If he doesn't pull through in this election, after his spectacular showing there is every chance he gets a second term in four year's time, if he wants it that is.

      Haha good stuff


    • #6304
      NovemberWren
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      Query: I thought postal votes were mainly for citizens not in the country on the date of an election/ or for people actually in hospitals.

      On what date was the 'postal votes' decided? and on what criteria? or was it just that absolutely anyone could post in their vote?

      And, from what date were they then allowed to actually post the postal votes.


    • #6305
      Dressoutlet
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      Sierra Oscar wrote: »
      Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

      It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

      Legal observers are always allowed, it's the Trump Mob pushing there way into buildings that's the problem


    • #6306
      Graham
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      Sierra Oscar wrote: »
      It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present

      It would be very odd if it were true


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    • #6307
      Laois_Man
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      Sierra Oscar wrote: »
      Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

      It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

      I know there was some dispute about how close these observers could get to the people performing the work. Implied intimidation. Something like that maybe?


    • #6308
      y0ssar1an22
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      whats the story with wisconsin? thought that was done and dusted


    • #6309
      Call Me Jimmy
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      Sierra Oscar wrote: »
      Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

      It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

      Nope but I was thinking, they would surely have had to provide evidence they were being kept too far away to be able to properly observe for the first order. If that's the case that is just plain weird


    • #6310
      listermint
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      NovemberWren wrote: »
      Query: I thought postal votes were mainly for citizens not in the country on the date of an election/ or for people actually in hospitals.

      On what date was the 'postal votes' decided? and on what criteria? or was it just that absolutely anyone could post in their vote?

      And, from what date were they then allowed to actually post the postal votes.

      Pandemic.


    • #6311
      Billy Mays
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      How many of Gonald's's tweets from the last 36 hours have been flagged as bullsh!t by Twitter?

      Just caught Lewandorkski on the news there spouting a whole pile of nonsense. The Republican party actually trying to steal a presidential election. Shameless.


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    • #6312
      wes
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      Laois_Man wrote: »
      I know there was some dispute about how close these observers could get to the people performing the work. Implied intimidation. Something like that maybe?

      Also, there is a pandemic, too many people who are too close could endanger people health. We already seen Trump rallies become super spreader events.


    • #6313
      Snake Plisken
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      namloc1980 wrote: »
      So when Trump goes to court it's legitimate but when democrats do so they are hiding something? You Trumpists are absolutely comical.

      Looks like Democrats are trying to hide something they should be delighted in having observers if they are confident Biden has the votes! Believe Biden is so popular dead people are voting from the grave for him!


    • #6314
      is_that_so
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      y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
      whats the story with wisconsin? thought that was done and dusted
      Not officially but in reality it is. It's also one of the many places Trump is suing.


    • #6315
      Laois_Man
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      I'd say yer man heading up the count in Clark County is an absolute bastard to work for!


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      Snake Plisken wrote: »
      Looks like Democrats are trying to hide something they should be delighted in having observers if they are confident Biden has the votes! Believe Biden is so popular dead people are voting from the grave for him!

      What exactly do you think they're hiding? It's pretty fair that observers shouldn't be able to get too close to a person during a global pandemic.


    • #6317
      Penn
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      Trump loses Michigan case looking for counting of ballots to be stopped.


    • #6318
      namloc1980
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      Sierra Oscar wrote: »
      Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

      It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

      Because among the observers the Trump campaign have sent are Eric Trump, Lara Trump and Pam Bondi. This is done purely as an intimidation tactic of the count staff by the Trump campaign by sending those as "observers".


    • #6319
      Quin_Dub
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      Sierra Oscar wrote: »
      Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

      It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

      They aren't, they are fighting against the GOP having literally hundreds of "observers" who were shouting and disrupting things left and right.

      From what I understand between all candidates they were allowed 131 observers (no idea why such an odd number) but literally hundreds of people on the GOP side turned up demanding entrance.

      They were all refused and then they all starting trying to video in the windows etc. - Which is an offence , only the official people are allowed be there and see stuff.

      So the election staff blocked the windows.

      The GOP are now saying that they are "hiding" stuff.. even though they have dozens of staff inside already.

      It's flinging turds in all directions to stir things up and cause trouble so that some Judge will eventually just go "ah lads , this is getting silly , let's just go with the result we have"

      Think Brooks Brother riot on Social Media.


    • #6320
      Phoebas
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      Sierra Oscar wrote: »
      Does anyone know the ins and outs of this?

      It's odd that the Democrats are fighting against observers being present. Has it something to do with observers having to be bipartisan, or what? Strange one. It's feeding the Trump fanatics and I can see why.

      I don't know, but there were a number of observers ejected from the/a count centre in PA yesterday because they were getting in faces of the counters who were feeling intimidated.
      If its the view of the Democrats that the goal of these observers is not simply to observe, but to intimidate, then I can see why they might object. There is also a process to follow to become an observer - you can't just turn up en masse and expect to get in.


    • #6321
      Kermit.de.frog
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      Zero ****s given by Twitter anymore with Trump. Censoring everything.


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    • #6322
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      Penn wrote: »
      Trump loses Michigan case looking for counting of ballots to be stopped.
      That's 3 losses to 1 "massive" win so far!


    • #6323
      Call Me Jimmy
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      wes wrote: »
      Also, there is a pandemic, too many people who are too close could endanger people health. We already seen Trump rallies become super spreader events.

      The order says to follow covid guidelines.


    • #6324
      jjmcclure
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      namloc1980 wrote: »
      Because among the observers the Trump campaign have sent are Eric Trump, Lara Trump and Pam Bondi. This is done purely as an intimidation tactic of the count staff by the Trump campaign by sending those as "observers".


      This.


      A number of Trump observers were removed from count centers due to them intimidating the staff.


    • #6325
      BobbyMalone
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      Quin_Dub wrote: »

      Think Brooks Brother riot on Social Media.


      I think that's the key point with all that - they don't want a repeat of what happened with Bush.


    • #6326
      Kermit.de.frog
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      jjmcclure wrote: »
      This.


      A number of Trump observers were removed from count centers due to them intimidating the staff.

      It's like a mob boss sending out his goons.


    • #6327
      road_high
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      Laois_Man wrote: »
      I'd say yer man heading up the count in Clark County is an absolute bastard to work for!

      Ridiculously Rude and surly- if you can’t answer a few simple questions then piss off and let someone else do the job.
      Following this the big difference I can see is the humour removal most Americans seem to have. Bad enough as our media might be they’d at least draw some honour from it and lighter moments with a bit of deprecation


    • #6328
      PopePalpatine
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      Snake Plisken wrote: »
      Looks like Democrats are trying to hide something they should be delighted in having observers if they are confident Biden has the votes! Believe Biden is so popular dead people are voting from the grave for him!

      The last sting of 234,000+ dying wasps (and counting).


    • #6329
      drogon.
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      Looks like a lot of accusation without any proof.

      https://twitter.com/elistokols/status/1324397101216862209?s=21


    • #6330
      hatrickpatrick
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      Good NYT article on what's happening in Arizona:

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/upshot/arizona-election-call.html


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    • #6331
      y0ssar1an22
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      Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
      Zero ****s given by Twitter anymore with Trump. Censoring everything.

      that aint on really. censoring! are we in 1984?

      what did he say?


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