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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #6002
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    True, and also social media's role in this. It's been a slow descent into the gutter. I fear Ireland will follow in the not too distant future..as will all of Europe. Kier Starmer in the U.K. gives me some hope, a more moderate left candidate to pull sides together.
    Biden was seen as a good centre candidate, and has quite a bit in common with the likes of John McCain, and previous moderate Republican candidates. If only he was a bit younger, perhaps he should have ran in 2016 instead of Hillary...

    Biden in times gone by could easily have been a Republican politician, let's not forget part of Obama's motivation for having him as VP was to appeal to conservative minded Democrats and centrist Republicans. Bipartisan appointments at cabinet level used to be the norm. Trump has destroyed that.


  • #6003
    Enquiring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Enquiring


    dark crystal wrote: »
    No, Trump has even more bigly numbers:

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

    That really is disgusting stuff. Just goes to show that it doesn't matter who gets elected. Obama, Trump, Biden, whoever, it will still result in other countries getting flattened and thousands dying.


  • #6004
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,412 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Deleted User wrote: »
    "Plenty of proof - just check out the Media" sums up his way of thinking pretty well.

    Pretty ironic he's now desperately depending on Fake News !


  • #6005
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Pennsylvania Attorney General on CNN is having none of Trump's nonsense.


  • #6006
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,416 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Penn wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324386685858287616?s=20

    The fact he's specifically noting he's only challenging states that Biden recently won shows it's not about proof, it's just challenging the results because he doesn't like the results.
    Some high quality memes below that one!
    Love the pointing spiderman one ha


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  • #6007
    francois
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭francois


    Boggles wrote: »
    Trump going Full Trump on twitter!!!

    :pac:

    He sounds like a prisoner of death row, waiting for the state governor to put a stay on execution, a stay which is never coming


  • #6008
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Trump's lead in Georgia now down to under 15k, based on new reporting of about 6k votes


  • #6009
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    John King back on the big board...awesome!


  • #6010
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Penn wrote: »
    Trump's lead in Georgia now down to under 15k, based on new reporting of about 6k votes

    how many left do you know?


  • #6011
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Pennsylvania Attorney General on CNN is having none of Trump's nonsense.
    Josh Shapiro of the Democratic Party?


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  • #6012
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,069 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Biden might be just out of luck in Georgia... it’s going to be ridiculously close though.


  • #6013
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    The astonishing thing is that Trump is likely to exceed Obama's popular vote of 2008. He will never shut up about that.

    His voters are motivated, maybe even more than Obama's supporters ever were. He tapped into a very dark side of the populace, and that won't just disappear.


  • #6014
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Lol Trump spokeman to the press "Listen you're here to take in information" when questioned by the media the conference.


  • #6015
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    "Pennsylvania election officials plan to hold a news conference this afternoon. Democrats here are increasingly confident that Biden will have a big lead when all votes are counted." - NYT

    Sounds like there won't be an announcement at noon :(


  • #6016
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,675 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Biden might be just out of luck in Georgia... it’s going to be ridiculously close though.

    Trump needs Georgia to keep his frustration and obstruction efforts on the road. They'll quickly run out of steam without a win there.


  • #6017
    7aubzxk43m2sni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭7aubzxk43m2sni


    A pause on 35,000 votes to be counted in Philadelphia due to a legal challenge - they wont be counted until tomorrow


  • #6018
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Biden wins, and that's looking like a near certainty unless Trump can pull a huge political stroke, then it's not really an endorsement of him as much as it's an indictment of Trump. Biden would, in any normal election, be a massively whitebread uninspiring candidate. Just a basic old white guy who you figure will side with the big guy in the end. It's been enormously helpful for Biden that he's been running against a lot of people who are profoundly disturbed by Trump. Trump is as much of a conman as those he accused of being conmen in Washington and has no scruples about playing off fears to gain power. In terms of basic human decency, every American president I've seen looks to chart very high compared to Trump, no matter what their policies were. Trump just does not care.

    I think Trump will be back, though, one way or the other, either himself or someone he's endorsed.


  • #6019
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pittsburg won't process the rest of it's ballots until after 5PM on Friday due to a legal challenge.


  • #6020
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    how many left do you know?

    Could be approx 55k in Georgia altogether.

    Legal challenge in PA now according to CNN which is stopping counting in PA in one county of approx 30k ballots. Will resume counting tomorrow.


  • #6021
    FionnK86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Lol Trump spokeman to the press "Listen you're here to take in information" when questioned by the media the conference.

    Saw that, reporters laughing and they wouldn’t give their name.


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  • #6022
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Watching CNN earlier, they're might have been a mix up with mail in votes in PA - a couple thousand were sent out twice to voters, potentially leading to problems. Unsurprising the Republicans would challenge that. Everyone wants to see a fair count.


  • #6023
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Kolton Salty Streamer wrote: »
    A pause on 35,000 votes to be counted in Philadelphia due to a legal challenge - they wont be counted until tomorrow

    They are actually in Pittsburgh which is Biden's currently 60%-40%.


  • #6024
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    GA lead for Trump down to 14,765 now with 98% reporting.


  • #6025
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Deleted User wrote: »
    His voters are motivated, maybe even more than Obama's supporters ever were. He tapped into a very dark side of the populace, and that won't just disappear.

    cant speak for anyone else, but my reason for supporting him is that i fundamentally disagree with political correctness, cancel culture, all that sort of stuff that seems to be mainly the purview of the left. and he was willing to take that on. in a lot of ways i realise what a gob****e he is, but those above mentioned things are way beyond trumps bad points (IMO) and politics for that matter.


  • #6026
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    briany wrote: »
    If Biden wins, and that's looking like a near certainty unless Trump can pull a huge political stroke, then it's not really an endorsement of him as much as it's an indictment of Trump. Biden would, in any normal election, be a massively whitebread uninspiring candidate. Just a basic old white guy who you figure will side with the big guy in the end. It's been enormously helpful for Biden that he's been running against a lot of people who are profoundly disturbed by Trump. Trump is as much of a conman as those he accused of being conmen in Washington and has no scruples about playing off fears to gain power. In terms of basic human decency, every American president I've seen looks to chart very high compared to Trump, no matter what their policies were. Trump just does not care.

    I think Trump will be back, though, one way or the other, either himself or someone he's endorsed.

    He's done him or the Republicans no favour long term by his efforts to stop the count or disenfranchise voters. That will be used against them in future elections.

    The best way to win future elections is be gracious in defeat.


  • #6027
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Everyone wants to see a fair count.
    If only one thing has been established in the last 36 hours by Trump, it is that that statement is untrue.


  • #6028
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Just under 122k gap in PA now. Biden shrinking the gap again.


  • #6029
    accensi0n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    CNN still saying 60k remaining in GA. So was the 200k bogus?


  • #6030
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Trump down to 121K lead in PA.


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  • #6031
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Watching CNN earlier, they're might have been a mix up with mail in votes in PA - a couple thousand were sent out twice to voters, potentially leading to problems. Unsurprising the Republicans would challenge that. Everyone wants to see a fair count.

    Sounds so dodgy. Wouldn't be surprised if some dems were desperate enough to try shenanigans, then pointing to Trump's personality and "the alt right" to try and dismiss calls of foul play.


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