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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Asylum15


    So basically Trump has to win Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alaska, Arizona and Georgia and he's in.

    I still think Arizona will go red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭sondagefaux


    Overheal wrote: »
    GA SecState claims 149,000 ballots remain to be counted. All absentee (favored by dems).

    Trump and Biden are only separated by 45,941

    Trump can still hold it.

    Trump doesn't think so.

    AP is reporting he's taking legal action to halt vote counting in Georgia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I don't know how outlets like the New York Times and Reuters give Biden +11 and +12 or whatever in their final polls before election in states like Wisconsin. The congressional races were even more off. Susan Collins was predicted to lose +10 but even up winning by that margin.

    I guess the question is why are the predictions ALWAYS skewed for Democrats?

    Please give me an answer because I just don't get it

    https://twitter.com/rkylesmith/status/1324034971699466240

    Yes exactly. Without a doubt downright lies.

    Now what happened to this blue wave in Texas. We had multiple reports that there was a high chance of it turning blue.
    03-11-2020, 15:58 #200
    AllForIt

    There was a guy interviewed on UK radio last night who was involved with the only polling in the US that called it correctly in 2016.

    On the question of the Dems taking Texas, (some are saying by a landslide) that he never heard anything more ridiculous, there isn't a hope of anything like that happening. He lives in Texas.

    So what happened in Texas? Almost exactly the same result as 4 years ago. Not a whiff of what was said transpired. Not a word of it. How could this be a case of simply 'getting the polls wrong'.

    So all this is done by design by the virtuous unscrupulous Democrats and their msm supporters. And ppl wonder why the country is divided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭Sawduck


    Going to bed now, I don't think we will see a winner until sometime tomorrow, this is a looooong election process


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trump doesn't think so.

    AP is reporting he's taking legal action to halt vote counting in Georgia.

    Frivolous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Do you know how many followers those so called "rogue" government twitter accounts garnered post 2016?

    Tell me how it's different.


    Those rogue characters didn't get elected to Congress. The QAnon stuff is mainstream stuff for Republicans now. Those Rogue staffer accounts? Not so much.


    There's a gullibility gap between the two parties ober there.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,677 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Asylum15 wrote: »
    So basically Trump has to win Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alaska, Arizona and Georgia and he's in.

    I still think Arizona will go red.

    It's possible, but it is a big ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,502 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Asylum15 wrote: »
    So basically Trump has to win Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alaska, Arizona and Georgia and he's in.

    I still think Arizona will go red.

    Not a chance now. The absentee count only adds daylight for Uncle Joe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Asylum15 wrote: »
    So basically Trump has to win Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alaska, Arizona and Georgia and he's in.

    I still think Arizona will go red.

    Dude are you following this at all? Arizona is already blue and won't change, it's Nevada and the rest or bust for Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,178 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump lead slashed to 200,000 now in PA.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Sawduck wrote: »
    Going to bed now, I don't think we will see a winner until sometime tomorrow, this is a looooong election process

    Nighty night, brush your teeth and take your socks off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Trump doesn't think so.

    AP is reporting he's taking legal action to halt vote counting in Georgia.

    The lawsuit is based on someone supposedly seeing someone else putting 53 late absentee ballots in with a bag of legitimate votes. 53. Sad bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    py2006 wrote: »
    Nighty night, brush your teeth and take your socks off.

    Check your socks for any postmarked ballots!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Old_-_School


    Can't see Trump holding his lead in GA.
    He's 48k ahead with 150k mail-in votes to be counted, with Atlanta making up the most of those.
    So Biden needs to win the remaining votes 2:1 and has been winning mail-in votes in GA way greater than 2:1 so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,502 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Trump adviser tells Jim Acosta, CNN, if Georgia goes against Trump, its game over man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭sheeplover55


    Those rogue characters didn't get elected to Congress. The QAnon stuff is mainstream stuff for Republicans now. Those Rogue staffer accounts? Not so much.


    There's a gullibility gap between the two parties ober there.

    Ah yes, I forgot about the moral superiority, it all makes sense now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭sondagefaux


    Overheal wrote: »
    Frivolous.

    Not the point.

    You said outstanding postal ballots could potentially reinforce Trump in Georgia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Trump adviser tells Jim Acosta, CNN, if Georgia goes against Trump, its game over man.

    That's not a secret that's the math.

    531830.PNG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Not the point.

    You said outstanding postal ballots could potentially reinforce Trump in Georgia.

    Yes I did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,502 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Ah yes, I forgot about the moral superiority, it all makes sense now.

    Dude, remember your audience here.

    We are, for the most part, educated, Irish, middle class, centrist, Democratic Party sympathising.

    Its not moral superiority, we are in every tangible and intangible way superior to your typical Trump voter or sympathiser. Lets not put a tooth in that.

    If you were on boards.oklahoma, I've no doubt you'd be having a very different interaction (and Lord knows the spelling would be worse), but buddy, you ain't!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭sondagefaux


    Dante7 wrote: »
    The lawsuit is based on someone supposedly seeing someone else putting 53 late absentee ballots in with a bag of legitimate votes. 53. Sad bastards.

    They'll claim it's indicative of more widespread rule breaking.

    The 'someone' who claims to have seen this is a Republican party worker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Dude, remember your audience here.

    We are, for the most part, educated, Irish, middle class, centrist, Democratic Party sympathising.

    Its not moral superiority, we are in every tangible and intangible way superior to your typical Trump voter or sympathiser. Lets not put a tooth in that.

    If you were on boards.oklahoma, I've no doubt you'd be having a very different interaction (and Lord knows the spelling would be worse), but buddy, you ain't!

    The term you're looking for is egalitarian - which American Republicans are not by and large.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,502 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Overheal wrote: »
    That's not a secret that's the math.

    531830.PNG

    Yes we all know that, the point is it came from a Trump campaign HQ suit, thats a first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Yes we all know that, the point is it came from a Trump campaign HQ suit, thats a first.

    suppose.

    Trump has been very nervous to aides about the possibility of facing criminal indictments in January.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭sheeplover55


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Dude, remember your audience here.

    We are, for the most part, educated, Irish, middle class, centrist, Democratic Party sympathising.

    Its not moral superiority, we are in every tangible and intangible way superior to your typical Trump voter or sympathiser. Lets not put a tooth in that.

    If you were on boards.oklahoma, I've no doubt you'd be having a very different interaction (and Lord knows the spelling would be worse), but buddy, you ain't!

    It was a simple question, why did the New York Times have Biden +11 in states like Wisconsin, or Susan Collins ( who won by 10 ) down by 10 and not one single polling outlet predicted her winning? This happened across the board, not just two individual cases.

    I just don't get it, it's not some partisan viewpoint, it's bewildering to me after 2016, Brexit, and now this 2020 election.

    The polls cite a "margin of error" as if to say it's scientific. For e.g. the +11 the New York times published says there's a 3-4 point margin of error, so OK. Biden win's by 7 it's within it. The reality is there's nothing scientific about polls at all and for the most part especially when going against the right wing parties in recent times they turn out to be complete bull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,174 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Will Trump demand recounts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    So far today we've had: the Iranians are rational actors, welcoming of the Chinese as the dominant superpower and John Bolton is trustworthy all because they were on the opposite side to Trump. It will be interesting to see that the covid deaths will no longer be attributable to the president once Biden gets in too... no blaming him for how governors handle things like there was for Trump.


    I don't think anyone is claiming that the Iranians are rational actors. There was an agreement which Donnie pulled the US out of. China are not dominant, they might be though in the near future if the West doesn't get its act together. The Democrats policy was to work with the EU in trying to put manners on China through trade. The only people Donnie has hurt with his Chinese tariffs are the American people. You do know that the MAGA hats are made in China. Bolton is trustworthy (in that he will tell the truth), so I don't know what your problem is with him other than that he is too hawkish.

    As for Covid - without Trump organising superspreaders, perhaps there will be a reduction in deaths. It will be nice to see a US President telling people to wear masks etc., and try and protect themselves from the virus. From what I understand as well, Trump (Kushner) blocked federal covid aid going to democratic cities. Hopefully Biden will support the new Director General of the WTO (they haven't so far) which is holding that up, rejoin the Paris Climate agreement and the WHO. As well as that, maybe there might be a bit more certainty around NATO.


    Its worth noting by the way, that in the last 4 years, mining in Pennsylvania has been reduced by 10%. Trump couldn't hold that tide back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Will Trump demand recounts?

    Absolutely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,178 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump lead down to 38k in Georgia.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,178 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump lead slashed again just now in PA. Down to just 2.8% from 3.9% an hour a go.


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