Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

RonaVirus wrote: »

If Biden wins, and nothing gets better for the underclasses, what will they think then?

That there's no real difference between the broken promises of Trump's 4 years in office and Bidens?

It's just a guess.

What do you think?

Fair play to the mods tonight, taking no sh1te from anyone!

The post president trump era will be fascinating to watch. Does he keep doing rallies? Visit qanon fan clubs? Or will be in court the rest of his life? How long before twitter ban him?

froog wrote: »

The post president trump era will be fascinating to watch. Does he keep doing rallies? Visit qanon fan clubs? Or will be in court the rest of his life? How long before twitter ban him?

He launches his long-threatened TV network. The whole presidency escapade was just preparing the ground for that.

sondagefaux wrote: »

If every 1% increase in reported votes leads to Biden gaining 0.3% in vote share, the change from 89% reporting to 100% reporting brings him an extra 3.3% to add to the 47.6% share.

47.6% × 3.3% = 50.9%

so still just a bit less than trumps current 51.2% if he can manage to keep that

My geographic knowledge of the USA has been greatly increased over the last 24 hours. And travel restriction permitting I'm going to visit some of these flip states next year.

So I'm hoping AZ carry it as I loved roadrunner cartoons when I was a kid and always wanted to see the desert rock stacks.

sheeplover55 wrote: »

It was rigged in 2016 and 2020 too, at least as far as the polls and predictions go.

Polls are a snapshot in time. The data a poll can gather can change within a day. They can only tell you something vaguely and at that particular moment.

Anyone looking at polls and drawing set conclusions, especially in an election race that is narrow, is only fooling themselves.

I thought Trump had a comfortable win I was obviously wrong. The media push and polling were insane to me including zero negative Biden stories on aggregators even if you search for it. No matter what race it is that means the media aren't doing their job; and some polls were outrageous e.g. Wisconsin +17 etc.

I particularly don't like the intellectual move towards fact-checking and arbitrating truth online. I'm shocked to see people not recognise the problem with this and how it has been and will be weaponised. Online discussions generally involved people just posting some newspaper article to do their talking for them, often without understanding what is actually written - just a headline that says what they want. People seem to genuinely believe that online propaganda is a problem unique to dumb right-wing Qanon people, this even after the Russian collusion nightmare dragged on for 3 years with endless sh!te from all the reputable newspapers.

The main theme I've seen that still makes me uncomfortable is that despite everyone calling out Trump zealots all day long there is a consistent lack of any critical questioning of Biden and some frankly shocking rationalising of things from the silly to the potentially serious - much like what is claimed of Trump supporters.

So far today we've had: the Iranians are rational actors, welcoming of the Chinese as the dominant superpower and John Bolton is trustworthy all because they were on the opposite side to Trump. It will be interesting to see that the covid deaths will no longer be attributable to the president once Biden gets in too... no blaming him for how governors handle things like there was for Trump.

I understand it's exciting getting Trump out and congrats to Biden but some of the talk on here defies belief. I've said the things Trump was focused on outweighed his character flaws and idiosyncrasies and failures, the main one being the anti-China pivot - and the proof is Biden who was all about normalised relations has had to pick up the baton.

I assume the media will go back to not being curious about anything for another 4 - 8 years. I'm genuinely curious about a year or two after the dust has settled and all the AOC and Bernie fans online realise that they are the other side of the populist coin and won't be getting a look in either. Also interesting will be dynamic between BLM (who are already being sussed out by the black community, particularly the new ADOS movement), Antifa (who don't have any more fascism) and the new administration.


All in all, the election was exciting even though it's bit of a shock for me and I view it as a loss of a necessary anti-establishment push in the US. Although some of the trends did come to pass like some of the shifting in the voters of each party, I got this wrong. In the future, the Democrats will have to actually work for black and minority votes forever more which I don't think would have happened without Trump.

I think we can all agree it'll be great if Trump ownz the intel-agencies by pardoning Snowden and Assange and we get some chance of journalism surviving into the future!

Hey guys, I found another stack of ballots with 99% Biden *wink wink*.