Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

froog · 04-11-2020 11:20PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

I think if Biden wins, the peaceful transfer of power which usually follows will be fraught, full of legal challenges, and sow further divisions in the US. The fact that Trump has been seeding doubts in the Democratic process from the outset has his voters primed.

it's backfired badly though. it's the most laughably telegraphed political move of all time. it would have been more impactful if he shut the fcuk up about it until election night.

one armed dwarf · 04-11-2020 11:20PM

sheeplover55 wrote: »

Time for Trump to do the noble thing and concede defeat - Clinton was scalded for not conceding the night of the election and people still remember it.

Clinton did concede though

Kermit.de.frog · 04-11-2020 11:21PM

Senior republicans now abandoning Trump.

McConnell just after saying all votes must be counted.

They want him gone (they just can't say it too loud).

sheeplover55 · 04-11-2020 11:21PM

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Clinton did concede though

Yeah she did the day after, but the night of the election when it was obvious it was over she sent out John Podesta instead, it wasn't well received at the time.

ohnonotgmail · 04-11-2020 11:21PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

He’s been getting close to 70%+ of the mail in ballots but only needs 60%-ish, if this continues he’ll win by 150K+ votes.

There’s about 1m votes left to count.

he is 300,000 behind. if there are a million votes uncounted (actually just under) then Biden would need 65% of the remaining votes. If he is getting 70% then happy days but it still seems a big ask to continue getting those numbers.

paleoperson · 04-11-2020 11:22PM

What makes you think he's going to win Pennsylvania?

Trump is leading there by a lot. Are you just saying this to get into the spirit of "fighting for your side" or is there any actual reason for claiming that? Genuinely.

Yes I know the remaining votes will likely be democrat, but whether it will be enough is anyone's guess.

Graham · 04-11-2020 11:22PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Apparently it's not illegal for the representatives to defy the people's actual vote and put in their own vote for the electoral college.

Aside from highlighting the lows the dems stooped to to try to steal the election from Trump - imagine if the unthinkable happened and they did it this time - but for Trump?

Faithless electors, some states have implemented laws to prevent this happening.

ShamNNspace · 04-11-2020 11:22PM

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Clinton did concede though

On Obamas advice if I remember correctly

Thepoet85 · 04-11-2020 11:22PM

paleoperson wrote:

Well, that's the fallacy. It's the same chance.

I agreed it's the same choice. I simply said I'd rather be odds on towards the end of a vote than the start. My opinion can't be a fallacy.

ohnonotgmail · 04-11-2020 11:23PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

He’s been getting close to 70%+ of the mail in ballots but only needs 60%-ish, if this continues he’ll win by 150K+ votes.

There’s about 1m votes left to count.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he is 300,000 behind. if there are a million votes uncounted (actually just under) then Biden would need 65% of the remaining votes. If he is getting 70% then happy days but it still seems a big ask to continue getting those numbers.

paleoperson wrote: »

What makes you think he's going to win Pennsylvania?

Trump is leading there by a lot. Are you just saying this to get into the spirit of "fighting for your side" or is there any actual reason for claiming that? Genuinely.

Yes I know the remaining votes will likely be democrat, but whether it will be enough is anyone's guess.

combine these posts and you get your answer.

one armed dwarf · 04-11-2020 11:23PM

sheeplover55 wrote: »

Yeah she did the day after, but the night of the election when it was obvious it was over she sent out John Podesta instead, it wasn't well received at the time.

Ok, yea I remember the phone call to Trump as her conceding but you're right that it was the following day that she actually spoke.

Still though, this guy won't be conceding tomorrow. Or ever.

BonnieSituation · 04-11-2020 11:24PM

nullzero wrote: »

You're forgetting that when they did it, it was ethical, now the other side are doing it its amoral.

When it happened then she had won the popular vote.

Trump is going to have neither the popular vote nor the EC. So what basis would there be for having faithless electors voting for Trump other than him and his supporters being butt hurt?

Inquitus · 04-11-2020 11:24PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324108200141082624

sondagefaux · 04-11-2020 11:24PM

schmittel wrote: »

Haven't seen any evidence of that but I agree it is perfectly possible.

That's my whole point.

Why not design a universal system for the whole country to allow people to vote by post that is not open to these sort of doubts? It's nuts.

Here's evidence.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/524347-postal-service-misses-court-ordered-deadline-for-unsent-mail-ballots?amp#click=https://t.co/ZBfYVsOdkR

The problem doesn't lie with different states having different approaches to postal voting.

It lies with the political interference with the US Postal Service with the Trump-appointed sleazebag who heads the USPS for now.

rossie1977 · 04-11-2020 11:24PM

GazzaL wrote: »

A bad day for global peace and prosperity if Trump doesn't get elected. A great day for the Irish TWITeratti.

Global peace.. The guy that threatened nuclear war with both North Korea and Iran..

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1143529907403788288

Funkfield · 04-11-2020 11:24PM

https://twitter.com/EamonLowe/status/1324114235476107265?s=20

Ha ha ha!

MadYaker · 04-11-2020 11:25PM

We all knew it was going to be closer than the polls but it’s still closer than I was expecting. Fat lady will be singing soon.

froog · 04-11-2020 11:26PM

trump is "claiming" states like your drunken idiot friend playing risk.

Smee_Again · 04-11-2020 11:26PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he is 300,000 behind. if there are a million votes uncounted (actually just under) then Biden would need 65% of the remaining votes. If he is getting 70% then happy days but it still seems a big ask to continue getting those numbers.

Oh it’s undoubtedly going to be close but the trends are looking good.

paleoperson wrote: »

What makes you think he's going to win Pennsylvania?

Trump is leading there by a lot. Are you just saying this to get into the spirit of "fighting for your side" or is there any actual reason for claiming that? Genuinely.

Yes I know the remaining votes will likely be democrat, but whether it will be enough is anyone's guess.

Explained a few posts above, Biden winning enough of the mail on ballots to close the gap.

This is why the Republicans fought so hard to make sure mail in ballots couldn’t be counted early.

GazzaL · 04-11-2020 11:27PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Global peace.. The guy that threatened nuclear war with both North Korea and Iran..

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1143529907403788288

The man was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize this very year. He's achieved more in this year than most people will achieve in a lifetime. Inspirational really.

For Forks Sake · 04-11-2020 11:27PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

God, I love Michigan.
Never been there, think Detroit's there. Beautiful place, someday I might even look for it on a map.
It would be nice to shake a Michigan person's hand someday, maybe even kiss their feet.
God, I love Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kj_PSjOIKY

super_furry · 04-11-2020 11:27PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Senior republicans now abandoning Trump.

McConnell just after saying all votes must be counted.

They want him gone (they just can't say it too loud).

It's been happening all day long since Pence did a salvage job on his speech this morning. McConnell will just cut him loose now.

wes · 04-11-2020 11:28PM

Overheal wrote: »

Nobody's calling it yet but GOP will have at least 50 Senate seats.

So if Biden wins and they have a tie in the senate, then VP Harris is the deciding vote, right?

ohnonotgmail · 04-11-2020 11:28PM

sheeplover55 wrote: »

Time for Trump to do the noble thing and concede defeat - Clinton was scalded for not conceding the night of the election and people still remember it.

trump and noble dont belong in the same sentence.

Happydays2020 · 04-11-2020 11:28PM

Biden will win. And quite comfortably.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/

Suggest reading Nate Silver 4:38pm (US time)

eagle eye · 04-11-2020 11:28PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

Senior republicans now abandoning Trump.

McConnell just after saying all votes must be counted.
They want him gone (they just can't say it too loud).

He said earlier that there'd be a peaceful transition of power too.

Hurrache · 04-11-2020 11:28PM

loveroflight wrote: »

What sort of a real conversation is possible when there is contempt and banning of the other point of view? Total waste of time.

Have a different point of view, but more often than not those thinking they have a different point of view are just making up and posting absolute bull**** and lies. That's not a different point of view.

y0ssar1an22 · 04-11-2020 11:28PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Trump not seen yet today... imagine if he committed suicide.

Overheal · 04-11-2020 11:29PM

wes wrote: »

So if Biden wins and they have a tie in the senate, then VP Harris is the deciding vote, right?

Yep.

ohnonotgmail · 04-11-2020 11:29PM

GazzaL wrote: »

The man was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize this very year. He's achieved more in this year than most people will achieve in a lifetime. Inspirational really.

nominated by a nutjob who nominates people like trump for publicity.

Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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