Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

Chardee MacDennis · 04-11-2020 07:56PM

nullzero wrote: »

If you need that explained to you then that's a sorry state of affairs.

Go on so

What has joe biden running for president got to do with oregon decriminalizing drugs?

Curious_Case · 04-11-2020 07:57PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It’s not looking good for Orange Man and his online army of angry men. It’s great news for Ireland though.

Dang it, I done painted my pet 'gator, tangerine
Now I gotta find him a better name

Junkyard Tom · 04-11-2020 07:57PM

More of a Trump loss (if it transpires) than a Democrat win.

outsourced_ire · 04-11-2020 07:58PM

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1324062841821908993

Curious_Case · 04-11-2020 07:58PM

Raving_Magic wrote: »

What happened for Trump's price to shorten up?

Betting bait ???

y0ssar1an22 · 04-11-2020 07:58PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Portugal have had similar laws since the year 2000 yet nobody ever talks about it, you know why? Because it has been an absolute success and proves the wars on drugs is a failure and not about drugs at all.

maybe if you divert the money saved into mental health, drug prevention and all that.

can you imagine though, instead of going for a few pints; you might instead go for a few shots of heroin.

after reading from the wiki, maybe it is the better strategy:

Individuals found in possession of small quantities of drugs are issued summons. The drugs are confiscated, and the suspect is interviewed by a “Commission for the Dissuasion of Drug Addiction” (Comissões para a Dissuasda Toxicodependia – CDT). These commissions are made up of three people: A social worker, a psychiatrist, and an attorney.[11][13] The dissuasion commission have powers comparable to an arbitration committee, but restricted to cases involving drug use or possession of small amounts of drugs. There is one CDT in each of Portugal’s 18 districts.

The committees have a broad range of sanctions available to them when ruling on the drug use offence. These include:

Fines, ranging from €25 to €150. These figures are based on the Portuguese minimum wage of about €485 (Banco de Portugal, 2001) and translate into hours of work lost.
Suspension of the right to practice if the user has a licensed profession (e.g. medical doctor, taxi driver) and may endanger another person or someone's possessions.
Ban on visiting certain places (e.g. specific clubbing venues).
Ban on associating with specific other persons.
Foreign travel ban.
Requirement to report periodically to the committee.
Withdrawal of the right to carry a gun.
Confiscation of personal possessions.
Cessation of subsidies or allowances that a person receives from a public agency.

anyway OT so will leave it there

AlphaDelta1 · 04-11-2020 07:59PM

2ndcoming wrote: »

That's very wordy but a short response is that this election shows that sadly a huge proportion of the American electorate are 100% behind Trump, despite his complete lack of morals or human compassion.

The cult of individualism is rampant over there. It's also a damning indictment of the American education system.

He was the most unsuitable person to ever run for national office in 2016, but protest votes happen. Learning everything we have in the time since and sticking with him isn't a protest vote, it's who you are.

He's a worse than useless candidate, just like Biden. This election has shown just how crazy a country America is but i already knew that having lived there for 7 years in the 90's.

The fact is sooner or later someone is coming along who is just as insane and decisive as the president but with actual intelligence that will appeal to Trump's base and a whole not more besides. That's when people should really be worried.

nullzero · 04-11-2020 07:59PM

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Go on so

What has joe biden running for president got to do with oregon decriminalizing drugs?

The other poster was talking about people being locked up for minor drug offences. The 1994 crime Bill resulted in a massive increase in that very thing. Biden was instrumental in the introduction of that Bill.
Keeping up?

Chardee MacDennis · 04-11-2020 08:00PM

nullzero wrote: »

The other poster was talking about people being locked up for minor drug offences. The 1994 crime Bill resulted in a massive increase in that very thing. Biden was instrumental in the introduction of that Bill.
Keeping up?

Yes and?

AlphaDelta1 · 04-11-2020 08:00PM

Halenvaneddie wrote: »

Oh dear, RIP Oregon

It is sad for sure. The lunatics are finally taking over

Loafing Oaf · 04-11-2020 08:00PM

Raving_Magic wrote: »

What happened for Trump's price to shorten up?

Most of the bookies seem to have pulled their Wisconsin odds: is there something happening there?

paleoperson · 04-11-2020 08:00PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

12/5 now, Biden 4/9.

For perspective a few hours ago Biden was 1/5 !

reforger · 04-11-2020 08:01PM

@gravel institute

Zapata County, Texas is the second most Hispanic county in America.

In 2012, Obama won it by 43 points.

In 2016, Hillary won it by 33 points.

In 2020, Biden lost it by 5 points

CharlesMartel · 04-11-2020 08:01PM

I think there is substance to the Trump call of fraud. Ballot boxes in Irelans are brought from the polling station to the count centre by the gardai. A ballot box being found later in a polling station here and then transferred to the count centre would be considered highly irrregular but is considered grand by the Biden camp. Now the democrats are suspending counts and then finding new boxes of votes postal or otherwise that are overwhelmingly pro-Biden. It stinks and is not the way the orange man should be removed

jill_valentine · 04-11-2020 08:02PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Most of the bookies seem to have pulled their Wisconsin odds: is there something happening there?

Trump wants a recount, but the margin is big enough it's unlikely to make a difference so it may just be for show.

nullzero · 04-11-2020 08:03PM

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Yes and?

Go away.

yourdeadwright · 04-11-2020 08:04PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

12/5 now, Biden 4/9.

For perspective a few hours ago Biden was 1/5 !

Thats still 69 % chance of winning
Its done Trunp is out

atr2002 · 04-11-2020 08:04PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyGr_huFMh4

No coincidence they rushed their sc appointment

DeanAustin · 04-11-2020 08:05PM

CharlesMartel wrote: »

I think there is substance to the Trump call of fraud. Ballot boxes in Irelans are brought from the polling station to the count centre by the gardai. A ballot box being found in a polling station here and then transferred to the count centre would be considered highly irrregular but is considered grand by the Biden camp. Now the democrats are suspending counts and then finding new boxes of votes postal or otherwise that are overwhelmingly pro-Biden. It stinks and is not the way the orange man should be removed

Is there any evidence this has happened?

froog · 04-11-2020 08:05PM

fox news coverage is all about lawsuits and "irregularities" now.

guiliani on his way to philly to stir up some **** too apparently.

Sierra Oscar · 04-11-2020 08:05PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

More of a Trump loss (if it transpires) than a Democrat win.

You can be sure there are many in the GOP who won't be too disappointment if Trump looses at this stage given the strong results for the party across the board.

Plenty would prefer to let Biden in, it'll be far from a strong presidency and there are some dark clouds on the horizon for the economy. They'll find a more appealing candidate with strong conservative / nationalist credentials and build from there.

I think that lack of support may suddenly dawn on Trump when the GOP don't come out to back his legal proceeding moves.

reforger · 04-11-2020 08:05PM

Vaughn Hillyard of NBC news says there are about 440k outstanding ballots in Arizona and they expect to find more on top of that, and Trump would have to win those remaining ballots by 61% to win AZ.

Loafing Oaf · 04-11-2020 08:06PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Trump wants a recount, but the margin is big enough it's unlikely to make a difference so it may just be for show.

But if that's all it is would the bookies be closing the market? I mean the Reps have been flagging the recount for a while.

Chardee MacDennis · 04-11-2020 08:06PM

nullzero wrote: »

Go away.

Honestly, what's the connection. The poster said it's not a good idea to lock addicts up, you said Biden brought a law in to do that. AND?

The poster wasn't making a point about Biden. I just don't understand the reason for your post?

joseywhales · 04-11-2020 08:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Susan Collins, Lyndsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, all kept their senate seats.

I think it's fair to say that I, and a fair proportion of the people posting in this and other threads, do not and never will understand the mentality of the American people.

I am in Maine, I think its a lack of understanding from the democratic party in maine, that they nominated someone who was not born in maine to challenge Collins. Mainers will never vote for an "out of stater"

nullzero · 04-11-2020 08:09PM

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Honestly, what's the connection. The poster said it's not a good idea to lock addicts up, you said Biden brought a law in to do that. AND?

The poster wasn't making a point about Biden. I just don't understand the reason for your post?

The poster is openly supporting Biden. Surely they would take issue with him having introduced a bill that put so many poor and often ethnic minority persons in prison over the last 26 years?

Is that not a point I am allowed to make?
Is pointing out the hypocrisy of Biden not acceptable?

paleoperson · 04-11-2020 08:09PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Thats still 69 % chance of winning
Its done Trunp is out

eh? That's 3 in 10 chance of Trump winning. Almost a tossup at this point.

reforger · 04-11-2020 08:09PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

You can be sure there are many in the GOP who won't be too disappointment if Trump looses at this stage given the strong results for the party across the board.

Plenty would prefer to let Biden in, it'll be far from a strong presidency and there are some dark clouds on the horizon for the economy. They'll find a more appealing candidate with strong conservative / nationalist credentials and build from there.

I think that lack of support may suddenly dawn on Trump when the GOP don't come out to back his legal proceeding moves.

Yes, it will make defending their Senate seats and taking back the House a real possibility in 2022.

McHardcore · 04-11-2020 08:09PM

CharlesMartel wrote: »

I think there is substance to the Trump call of fraud. Ballot boxes in Irelans are brought from the polling station to the count centre by the gardai. A ballot box being found in a polling station here and then transferred to the count centre would be considered highly irrregular but is considered grand by the Biden camp. Now the democrats are suspending counts and then finding new boxes of votes postal or otherwise that are overwhelmingly pro-Biden. It stinks and is not the way the orange man should be removed

Ballot boxes are recommended to be transferred by Gardai, but I know that many are not in Ireland. The most important part is that they are sealed and stamped correctly.

ExMachina1000 · 04-11-2020 08:10PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

maybe if you divert the money saved into mental health, drug prevention and all that.

can you imagine though, instead of going for a few pints; you might instead go for a few shots of heroin.

First of all it's not legal. Its decriminalised.
Secondly there is nothing stopping you guiding doing shots of heroin instead of pints now (apart from pubs being closed)
You choose not to. Just like you could drink half a litre of vodka at 9 in the morning but you dont

Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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