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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #2912
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    titan18 wrote: »
    Apologies if it's been asked already but if someone sends a mail in ballot on Monday, I assume it's not been counted yet or even received on the Tuesday, if that person goes in and votes on the Tuesday in-person, how do they reconcile that one person voted twice and only one vote counts.

    I'm assuming it's a tally count they're doing so as the counters are going through they go 1 Biden, 2 Biden etc rather than taking into account who actually voted.

    If you voted in person and it has been counted there would be a reference to say "John Smith Voted" so when they get to the mail-in ballot whenever and they are doing the name check it would get discarded at that point.


  • #2913
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,061 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    titan18 wrote: »
    Apologies if it's been asked already but if someone sends a mail in ballot on Monday, I assume it's not been counted yet or even received on the Tuesday, if that person goes in and votes on the Tuesday in-person, how do they reconcile that one person voted twice and only one vote counts.

    I'm assuming it's a tally count they're doing so as the counters are going through they go 1 Biden, 2 Biden etc rather than taking into account who actually voted.

    They verify mail votes before they count them, which includes checking if the voter already voted in person.


  • #2914
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Biden got a 138,339 tranche of votes in Michigan without a single vote for Trump. 138,339 out of 138,339 is literally a statistical improbability. Something is defiantly going on. Not the least bit suspicious at all. This reeks of ballot harvesting .....


    Michigan is allegedly waiting for Monroe county (south of Detroit) to report. In 2016 58% voted for Trump.

    El-9X8SX0AIao5c?format=jpg&name=small
    jhugy
    "The most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization in history." -
    Joe Biden


  • #2915
    Urethra Franklin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Urethra Franklin.


    threeball wrote: »
    At the very least the seats should be split according to winning margin rather than winner takes all. If you're a California republican or a democrat in Arkansas your vote means squat.

    Clinton was a democrat from Arkansas....


  • #2916
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Enquiring wrote: »
    Who is that?

    Username checks out.

    That's the rabid communist waitress AOC.

    She's the Trumpeteer's bete noir.


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  • #2917
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,529 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    namloc1980 wrote:
    Biden has taken 120k out of the Trump lead in Pennsylvania just now. He's going to catch him there too!
    I put it up earlier, I'm predicting Biden wins there by circa 130k.


  • #2918
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Hey, figure most people here will be fairly unbiased as to American news sources being better or worse than others - which outlet's tracker do ye feel is the most reliable and accurate? I'm finding them to be all over the place this year - for instance, several called Arizona for Biden hours ago, while others are stating that Arizona is very much still in play. Back in 2016 I relied on a blend of Fox and CNN to get essentially the right and left wing slants on early state calls, but both organisations seem to be dumpster fires of confusion time year.

    All that being said, who are ye trusting to call states in a way that they're actually called and won't flip later on when more votes are counted? It just seems a lot more unstable than usual this year, possibly because of the in-person vs postal vote divide.


  • #2919
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,032 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The electoral collage system is going to come under huge pressure after this election regardless of the result. Polling 4-5 millions votes more than the other guy and not being declared the winner is an affront to democracy

    Repubican's you might bump into on the internet love to hit you with the put-down that the US is a republic, not a democrecy. They are always very smug about it.


  • #2920
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,414 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Lol, what.
    Melania lol
    She was born in the usa now was she....


  • #2921
    feargale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The electoral collage system is going to come under huge pressure after this election regardless of the result. Polling 4-5 millions votes more than the other guy and not being declared the winner is an affront to democracy

    I detest Trump but it's a federal system like Australia and Switzerland. The only way you can change that is by unanimous consent of the states. It's not going to happen.


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  • #2922
    Leinster90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Leinster90


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/michigan

    He'll pulled back nearly 20k votes it's starting to tighten up again...

    It’s over man, Biden is the next President. Let go.


  • #2923
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    threeball wrote: »
    At the very least the seats should be split according to winning margin rather than winner takes all. If you're a California republican or a democrat in Arkansas your vote means squat.

    That's just a more awkward way of getting to the same destination.

    If you have senate seats split in a non-population based fashion, you don't also need an electoral college as a bulwark.

    Everything in the system is a crock right now.


  • #2924
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I put it up earlier, I'm predicting Biden wins there by circa 130k.

    It would be good for everyone if Biden wins PA decisively.


  • #2925
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    My god! "There are no real white right wing terrorists" - in what planet are you living? I swear people commenting like this are having their minds destroyed through social media.

    Never mind McVeigh and the Oklahoma bombings, but the FBI foiled 2, TWO, ZWEI Right wing terror threats in the last two weeks for god sake.

    Edit; and hold on, ANTIFA, linked to 0 (Zero) murders in the US in the last how many years. Just because ol Trumpy wants them to be labelled a Terror group, doesn't make it so.

    Since Trump was elected:

    2017 Portland train attack
    2017 Charlottesville car attack
    2017 Blaze Bernstein murder
    2018 October mail bombing attempts
    2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting
    2018 Poway synagogue shooting
    2019 El Paso shooting
    2020 Boogaloo killings


  • #2926
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Everyone was saying for a while that mail in ballots would be a huge source of fraud, then, in the wee hours of the morning, over 100k mail in ballots magically appear in the 2 states that Trump was leading in, and they ALL were for Biden.

    If either candidate wins, I want it to be so legally and without fraud...but a straight up vertical line for Biden while counting mail in ballots? That’s really concerning


    This ain't over by a long shot. Very exciting.


  • #2927
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The electoral collage system is going to come under huge pressure after this election regardless of the result. Polling 4-5 millions votes more than the other guy and not being declared the winner is an affront to democracy

    We have a similar system in the EU. If we directly elected an EU president, would the presidental candidates bother their arse fighting over Malta or Cyprus, or would they entirely skew their policies purely for the benefit of the French/German vote? If Small states in the US started to become swing states, you'd be guaranteed presidential candidates would start paying attention to them.

    It also stops large weather events skewing the overall vote. You could have a Hurricane in Florida or a blizzard in the North. Then all of a sudden California gets all of the say on what happens in a country.


  • #2928
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    J. Marston wrote: »
    I know little to nothing about her but I enjoy how much she riles up the Trump heads.

    Think of Richard Boyd Barrett in a dress and you wouldn't be far off.

    Not literally of course. Nobody wants to think about that image. Politically


  • #2929
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Lol, what.

    Melania 2024 :D


  • #2930
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,032 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Enquiring wrote: »
    Who is that?

    She's the real Wolf of Wall Street, that has all the little piggies absolutely terrified. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez


  • #2931
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,118 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    FOX news now saying Joe Biden has 95% chance of taking WI and 93% chance of MI.

    Joe Biden, 46th President of the United States of America.

    :)


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  • #2932
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    White supremacists and other rightwing extremists have been responsible for 67% of domestic terror attacks and plots so far this year, with at least half of that violence targeting protesters, according to the CSIS.


  • #2933
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    If Biden (as now expected) wins I hope he can push on to win Georgia and Pennsylvania. Those 36 EC votes are crucial for dayight to put the Trump fraud BS to bed. If he brings them in the republican party could turn on Trump and put him out to pasture.


  • #2934
    Dressoutlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    Everyone was saying for a while that mail in ballots would be a huge source of fraud, then, in the wee hours of the morning, over 100k mail in ballots magically appear in the 2 states that Trump was leading in, and they ALL were for Biden.

    If either candidate wins, I want it to be so legally and without fraud...but a straight up vertical line for Biden while counting mail in ballots? That’s really concerning


    This ain't over by a long shot. Very exciting.

    Don't you think if they were going to commit fraud they would do it in a less obvious way. Sometimes things just are. No conspiracy


  • #2935
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,044 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    Biden got a 138,339 tranche of votes in Michigan without a single vote for Trump. 138,339 out of 138,339 is literally a statistical improbability. Something is defiantly going on. Not the least bit suspicious at all. This reeks of ballot harvesting .....


    How do you know that, and better still how would one go about doing it?


  • #2936
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    Everyone was saying for a while that mail in ballots would be a huge source of fraud, then, in the wee hours of the morning, over 100k mail in ballots magically appear in the 2 states that Trump was leading in, and they ALL were for Biden.

    If either candidate wins, I want it to be so legally and without fraud...but a straight up vertical line for Biden while counting mail in ballots? That’s really concerning


    This ain't over by a long shot. Very exciting.

    No they werent look at the graphs again


  • #2937
    accensi0n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    Trump pulling back in Michigan currently according to theage.com.au map. Biden lead went from 0.4 to 0.2


  • #2938
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/michigan

    He'll pulled back nearly 20k votes it's starting to tighten up again...

    The Dems will go looking down the back of the couch for some more mail in's.


  • #2939
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    Everyone was saying for a while that mail in ballots would be a huge source of fraud, then, in the wee hours of the morning, over 100k mail in ballots magically appear in the 2 states that Trump was leading in, and they ALL were for Biden.

    If either candidate wins, I want it to be so legally and without fraud...but a straight up vertical line for Biden while counting mail in ballots? That’s really concerning


    This ain't over by a long shot. Very exciting.

    Appeared as in they started counting the mail in ballots after the in-person ballots as they said they would. What a conspiracy.


  • #2940
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Ray darcy just started his show on the wireless talking about how to eat a Jaffa cake.
    Fcukin jokeshop


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  • #2941
    quokula
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭quokula


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Think of Richard Boyd Barrett in a dress and you wouldn't be far off.

    Not literally of course. Nobody wants to think about that image. Politically

    She's left wing by American standards but she'd be perfectly at home in a mainstream party here, nowhere near PBP's populist nonsense.


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