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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #2762
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,044 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Looks like that Detroit vote is coming through for Biden. 30k extra votes in the last few minutes. That's it all over I think.


  • #2763
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It would be positive all round if Biden took Pennsylvania and Georgia as well so that it would be a clear win. It would help to avoid damaging nonsense from Trump over the next few weeks/months.

    i'm cheering for trump but i tend to agree with you.

    and i'b be interested to see how biden would do as well; how the media will deal with him, will he be good/bad, how the handles the far left in his party and all that other stuff.


  • #2764
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Does anyone know what exact time Michigan swung at ?

    I'd like to remember it forever !!!


  • #2765
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Probably looking for a new job for him on Deadliest Catch.

    They coukd do with a weight for a lobster pot.


  • #2766
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,138 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Oh dear lord

    -Concerned Trump Supporter


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  • #2767
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Fingers crossed for Biden


  • #2768
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    He said he wants the "voting to stop....as we dont want new votes coming in at 4 o'clock in the morning and add them to the list" not the counting, very important difference there.

    The voting has stopped


  • #2769
    RWCNT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Trump is hated by his opponents, but equally is loved by his followers. They have made being a Trump supporter a significant part of their character and identity.

    It is dangerous for any democracy for this kind of worship to exist, hopefully some of the spell will be broken but I doubt it.

    It seems to me many still underestimate him and his (unusual) appeal.

    Fully agree - even if Trump leaves office Trumpism will still be alive and well. Fully expect one of his children to make a run in 2024. I also think that the jubilation of victory could cause the Dems to overlook just how narrowly they scraped this and make them complacent. Back to brunch, blissfully unaware that the fight is very much still going.


  • #2770
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Biden 19k ahead in WI and 21k ahead in MI. Trump won those by 27k and 11k in 2016 so he can't complain about the margin of victory.


  • #2771
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,842 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Looks like that Detroit vote is coming through for Biden. 30k extra votes in the last few minutes. That's it all over I think.

    How long does this sort of news take to filter through to the odds? Still not quite looking a done deal there, Biden round 2/7...


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  • #2772
    holdyerhorses
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I would say they look likely to hit nearly 300 electoral colleges. So that's a pretty clear win. The fact so many were willing to vote for Trump is definitely worrying but more a terrifying sign Trumpism isn't going away.

    He'll be on the talk-show circuit straight after his lose, crying foul for 4 years too, and how unfair it is, Twitter will probably feel more safe to ban him off the platform post-loss too, which will be a help.


  • #2773
    twinytwo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Aside from the taste of victory, surely this is still a sh*t show for the Democrats? They look likely to squeak through 270-268 against the most disliked candidate in history (even more than Hilary), and will be fairly powerless due to failing to take the Senate. Plus in 4 years they'll be fighting for reelection for either 81 year old Joe Biden, or the very unpopular Kamela Harris.

    Any half decent Republican candidate would be a strong favourite.

    There's not a whole lot of glory to be had here, even with a win.

    They just need trump out of office. He not a good president, politician, businessman - hell he isn't even a decent human being. He is a conman full of hot air who makes everything about him.


  • #2774
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.


  • #2775
    7aubzxk43m2sni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭7aubzxk43m2sni


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.

    You're hilarious


  • #2776
    perrito caliente
    Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    Expect at least one war of aggression/fomented rebellion in another state if Biden gets in.


  • #2777
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,528 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    AlphaDelta1 wrote:
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.
    Not allowing mail in voting is subverting democracy.


  • #2778
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.

    So only in person voting should be allowed?


  • #2779
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.

    yeah no one's buying that rubbish. you need some new lines.


  • #2780
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It would be positive all round if Biden took Pennsylvania and Georgia as well so that it would be a clear win. It would help to avoid damaging nonsense from Trump over the next few weeks/months.

    True, but Trump will try something regardlesss.


  • #2781
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.

    I think the denial and anger stage is setting in.


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  • #2782
    holdyerhorses
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    i'm cheering for trump but i tend to agree with you.

    and i'b be interested to see how biden would do as well; how the media will deal with him, will he be good/bad, how the handles the far left in his party and all that other stuff.

    The 'far-left'* - should always come with an asterix when talking US politics. Their far-left would make the Tories bloody communists.


  • #2783
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.

    Haha, good one. You were quick to laugh at everyone else when Trump was winning, but now its all unfair and cheating when you're losing.

    Boo ****ing hoo.


  • #2784
    sky88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    whatever happens this has had me gripped all day not a thing done in work


  • #2785
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,675 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It would be positive all round if Biden took Pennsylvania and Georgia as well so that it would be a clear win. It would help to avoid damaging nonsense from Trump over the next few weeks/months.

    A win in Pennsylvania and Georgia would be a big boost for Biden, otherwise as you say his presidency will start off in somewhat of a quagmire. The less avenues for Trump to launch vexatious legal challenges the better.


  • #2786
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.

    Should the people who sent mail in votes for Donald Trump be disenfranchised?


  • #2787
    Enquiring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Enquiring


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The President needs to get this obvious mail in fraud thrown out. The Democrats must not be allowed subvert democracy like this.
    spook_cook wrote: »
    The polls showed Brexit was happening but the political class and media types knew better... Some pollsters do get it right, some have got this right. But losers like Nate Silver should have been a laughing stock after 2016 but again was actually seriously listened to this time round. And will be in four years again.

    The tome of both your posts have changed hugely in the space of a few hours.


  • #2788
    yermandan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭yermandan


    Curious_Case wrote: »
    Does anyone know what exact time Michigan swung at ?

    I'd like to remember it forever !!!

    Around 2.10pm Irish time


  • #2789
    Mirafiori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭Mirafiori


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Aside from the taste of victory, surely this is still a sh*t show for the Democrats? They look likely to squeak through 270-268 against the most disliked candidate in history (even more than Hilary), and will be fairly powerless due to failing to take the Senate. Plus in 4 years they'll be fighting for reelection for either 81 year old Joe Biden, or the very unpopular Kamela Harris.

    Any half decent Republican candidate would be a strong favourite.

    There's not a whole lot of glory to be had here, even with a win.

    IMO Biden would not seek re-election, and Kamala Harris would need to go through the primary process. She is not just guaranteed the nomination. Her future popularity is unknown, of course, but should become clear in due course.


  • #2790
    reforger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭reforger


    Democrats are set to become the first party in American history to win the popular vote in 7/8 elections.


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  • #2791
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    The 'far-left'* - should always come with an asterix when talking US politics. Their far-left would make the Tories bloody communists.

    i did say the far left in his party.

    like bernie for example, is he not a self declared socialist?


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