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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #2492
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    All voting has stopped? What's his problem?

    i presume he is going down the route that some of those mail ins (that have been received and are being counted) were fraudulent.


  • #2493
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Stayed up till 3.30 watching it, slept till 5 and went to bed a bit depressed. But pretty optimistic now seeing postal vote numbers. I'm thinking Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania,Michigan and Wisconsin end up going Biden. That should put him over the 300 mark so even losing Georgia would still keep him in the lead. Might be an overly optimistic estimate but think tides are turning.


  • #2494
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Probably because money is being put on trump because to odds are so large. Nowt to worry Biden supporters though. Pretty much wrapped up.

    THat doesn't influence the odds.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #2495
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Odds dropping on Biden to win in the last hour or so - 1.25 (80% chance of winning) - any sudden reason for that?

    The gap isnt closing as fast as theyd like in PA and MI, trump likely to carry both...to victory


  • #2496
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    He's winning

    It's been "too clase to call" ever since I got up this morning.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #2497
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    i presume he is going down the route that some of those mail ins (that have been received and are being counted) were fraudulent.

    If he goes down that road he'll need to provide very solid proof that a) they were fraudulent AND b) materially impacted the outcome of the election. Gonna be next to impossible to prove that (mainly because it's no more than a conspiracy theory designed to cause chaos).


  • #2498
    humberklog
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    Right, went to sleep at 4a.m thinking it was easily Trump's. I've been flat out busy until now and offline/radio and can't figure out what the state of play is.

    Anyone willing to give a brief synopsis of the present state of play?


  • #2499
    [Deleted User]
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    THat doesn't influence the odds.

    It does. Bookies change odds depending on how much money is staked to minimise potential losses.


  • #2500
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    amadangomor wrote: »
    I presume you are being sarcastic/joking.

    Just pointing out the significance of the 'popular vote'...


  • #2501
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    humberklog wrote: »
    Right, went to sleep at 4a.m thinking it was easily Trump's. I've been flat out busy until now and offline/radio and can't figure out what the state of play is.

    Anyone willing to give a brief synopsis of the present state of play?

    Trump is ****ed and Biden will win. Mail in votes are after crucifying trump as expected.


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  • #2502
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    humberklog wrote: »
    Right, went to sleep at 4a.m thinking it was easily Trump's. I've been flat out busy until now and offline/radio and can't figure out what the state of play is.

    Anyone willing to give a brief synopsis of the present state of play?

    Trump leading but enough mail-in votes that will fall to Biden to be counted to likely bridge the gap.

    Biden most likely but wouldn't stand over any declaration yet.


  • #2503
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,414 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Stayed up till 3.30 watching it, slept till 5 and went to bed a bit depressed. But pretty optimistic now seeing postal vote numbers. I'm thinking Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania,Michigan and Wisconsin end up going Biden. That should put him over the 300 mark so even losing Georgia would still keep him in the lead. Might be an overly optimistic estimate but think tides are turning.
    My 300 EC is still possible hurrah.
    I made that prediction at 11 last night before popping off to bed lol.
    I think he really needs a good cushion or Trump will attempt anything to drag it through the courts


  • #2504
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    humberklog wrote: »
    Right, went to sleep at 4a.m thinking it was easily Trump's. I've been flat out busy until now and offline/radio and can't figure out what the state of play is.

    Anyone willing to give a brief synopsis of the present state of play?

    Mail in votes on track to give Biden the ECs he needs and possibly change, barring Supreme Court intervention.


  • #2505
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    The gap isnt closing as fast as theyd like in PA and MI, trump likely to carry both...to victory

    What do you mean? His lead in Michigan was 202k about 2 hours ago - it's now down to c.10k. You don't think that's closing "fast enough". There's still c.300k votes to count in Detroit. Trump is in huge trouble in Michigan.


  • #2506
    sydthebeat
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    humberklog wrote: »
    Right, went to sleep at 4a.m thinking it was easily Trump's. I've been flat out busy until now and offline/radio and can't figure out what the state of play is.

    Anyone willing to give a brief synopsis of the present state of play?

    4am this morning Biden 3/1 to win

    Right now hes 1/4

    Trump was right to be absolutely petrified of postal votes


  • #2507
    CountNjord
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    Detroit is going to be the tipping point.


  • #2508
    Smee_Again
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    The gap isnt closing as fast as theyd like in PA and MI, trump likely to carry both...to victory

    MI is down to 13,057 with over 500,000 still to count, if the trend of these going to Biden then he'll win. If.


  • #2509
    DeanAustin
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    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Just pointing out the significance of the 'popular vote'...

    Well Sinn Fein got 24% of the vote so clearly the majority of the population voted for them and change.


  • #2510
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    humberklog wrote: »
    Right, went to sleep at 4a.m thinking it was easily Trump's. I've been flat out busy until now and offline/radio and can't figure out what the state of play is.

    Anyone willing to give a brief synopsis of the present state of play?

    Momentum is with Biden. Trump in trouble.


  • #2511
    DrPhilG
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    Showing my ignorance again here, but what happens if/when Trump loses? Does he just stroll off into the sunset and Pence takes over as head of the party until they nominate a new candidate before 2024?

    I know he's still officially in office until January or whatever but if he loses and can't get the courts to overturn, he'll be out the door as quick as he can.


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  • #2512
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It does. Bookies change odds depending on how much money is staked to minimise potential losses.

    THey take it into account, but it's not a massive influence. If it was it would be too easy to influence markets.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #2513
    Quantum Erasure
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    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Well Sinn Fein got 24% of the vote so clearly the majority of the population voted for them and change.

    Wheres Hillary?


  • #2514
    gmisk
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    The gap isnt closing as fast as theyd like in PA and MI, trump likely to carry both...to victory
    Michigan it is practically closed already...what are you on about?


  • #2515
    namloc1980
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    Smee_Again wrote: »
    MI is down to 13,057 with over 500,000 still to count, if the trend of these going to Biden then he'll win. If.

    The majority of those are Detroit which will heavily go to Biden.


  • #2516
    20Cent
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    Looks like Biden will get Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin. That will be enough.
    Thought Trump had it when I went to bed last night but optimistic now.


  • #2517
    Call Me Jimmy
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Stayed up till 3.30 watching it, slept till 5 and went to bed a bit depressed. But pretty optimistic now seeing postal vote numbers. I'm thinking Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania,Michigan and Wisconsin end up going Biden. That should put him over the 300 mark so even losing Georgia would still keep him in the lead. Might be an overly optimistic estimate but think tides are turning.

    Yea opposite here, well when I went to bed it looked more neck and neck, which in itself was an upset. Even where there was mail-in to come it has seemingly surpassed most people's highest estimates in terms of the ratio!


  • #2518
    Totofan99
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    Biden has it. He'll win Nevada, Arizona and Wisconsin, and more than likely Michigan. That's his 270.

    That's even before we get to Pennsylvania and Georgia.


  • #2519
    drunkmonkey
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    Smee_Again wrote: »
    MI is down to 13,057 with over 500,000 still to count, if the trend of these going to Biden then he'll win. If.

    There not though the trend is towards Trump. It's very tight but he'll nurse Michigan across the line I think.


  • #2520
    super_furry
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    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Showing my ignorance again here, but what happens if/when Trump loses? Does he just stroll off into the sunset and Pence takes over as head of the party until they nominate a new candidate before 2024?

    I know he's still officially in office until January or whatever but if he loses and can't get the courts to overturn, he'll be out the door as quick as he can.

    He'll be dropped like a hot snot. Already Republicans are starting to distance themselves from him. Pence will stick around and probably try to mount a run for 2024, but that could be a hard sell.

    Pence immediately rowing back from that Trump said in his speech was very telling.


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  • #2521
    LillySV
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    EarlyRiser2016 wrote: »
    I look forward to Biden becoming President and curing racism. Also no deaths by cops in his term.

    Haha, more importantly how will cnn and our other populist media report things going forward if Biden gets into power?


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