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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • #2192
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    ELM327 wrote: »
    True. But it's tagged red by some margin right now.

    It is absolutely irrelevant, if you win by 1 or by 1 mill you get the EC vote

    Popular vote in PA is still important and a large number of mail in ballots have to be counted. You really are misinformed.


  • #2193
    letowski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭letowski


    It’s funny thinking back to 4am to 5am last night and the panic within the ranks. You read and prepare for the ‘red mirage’ but when you see Trump up 16 in Pennsylvania and 8 in Michigan it is hard not to get worried.

    That was a long night.


  • #2194
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    Arizona is. Texas will not become solid blue.

    More specifically talking about NM, AZ and NV. Its the urbanisation of TX around Austin, Dallas Forth Worth and Houston that is moving Texas towards Purple, or less red at least


  • #2195
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Harsh dude : )

    Well, that's just like his opinion, man.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #2196
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,258 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    So apparently Biden has broken the record for most votes ever?

    Wow. Just shows how popular he is

    Biden derangement syndrome will curse trump now for the rest of his life


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  • #2197
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,396 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Is there anywhere I could get a breakdown of what the electoral college votes would look like if states had to split them based on percentage of the vote


  • #2198
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Still 12,000 between them in Michigan, it hasn't gone blue yet. But still approx. 10% of votes left to be counted.


  • #2199
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,370 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ignorance is Strength..

    Banned for multiple posts.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #2200
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Trump's speech earlier was a disgrace, to me it beggars belief that he got a single vote, nevermind x number of million. Christ Almighty


  • #2201
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,727 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    monty_python wrote: »
    So Trump is out??
    Nope, in fact still has a clear path to victory.


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  • #2202
    McFly85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭McFly85


    I can see this dragging on. Looks like Biden could clinch it but I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump spends the rest of his time trying to discredit the result and bring it to the courts, regardless of evidence.

    I find it bizarre that so many people(including many on this thread) are championing this course of action. People speak of Trump as some sort of messiah who can do no wrong and cannot fail, when he’s arguably the worst President the US has ever had.

    It seems like millions of Americans don’t actually care about the democratic process anymore, as long as they’re on the winning side they don’t care how they got there.


  • #2203
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    I reckon this will role on for weeks now. absantee ballots will be double and triple checked


  • #2204
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    jasonb wrote: »
    Still 12,000 between them in Michigan, it hasn't gone blue yet. But still approx. 10% of votes left to be counted.

    https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1323971227065720833?s=21


  • #2205
    MJohnston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,021 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Is there anywhere I could get a breakdown of what the electoral college votes would look like if states had to split them based on percentage of the vote

    Well that would just look like the popular vote, surely?

    Edit: oh i guess you mean the per-state popular vote. Hmmm


  • #2206
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Nope, in fact still has a clear path to victory.

    Not with Michigan and Wisconsin looking as they are


  • #2207
    Dodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Is there anywhere I could get a breakdown of what the electoral college votes would look like if states had to split them based on percentage of the vote

    It’s give a false picture though. Some republicans won’t vote in obvious democrat states (and vice versa obviously)


  • #2208
    MJohnston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,021 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Nope, in fact still has a clear path to victory.

    You want to clear up what you mean about PA’s popular vote not mattering?


  • #2209
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Trump's speech earlier was a disgrace, to me it beggars belief that he got a single vote, nevermind x number of million. Christ Almighty

    When you consider this, the country is in a bad place and Biden winning may only provide temporary respite.


  • #2210
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Nope, in fact still has a clear path to victory.

    It’s clear alright. He needs to win Pa, Ga and Mi

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #2211
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,616 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    letowski wrote: »
    It’s funny thinking back to 4am to 5am last night and the panic within the ranks. You read and prepare for the ‘red mirage’ but when you see Trump up 16 in Pennsylvania and 8 in Michigan it is hard not to get worried.

    That was a long night.

    Some of us kept our composure though ;)

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • #2212
    peteeeed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Christy42 wrote: »
    I don't mind supporters doing it. I feel some are still premature calling it for Biden here.

    Trump calling it last night was ridiculous. I guess it is all to build a narrative which is all he cares about. Looks like the media was ready for it after his warnings and didn't bite.

    well its playing out now , trump and his team obviously saw what was going to unfold , why would someone say he was going to go to the supreme court if he was going to win


  • #2213
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,396 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    MJohnston wrote: »
    Well that would just look like the popular vote, surely?

    Edit: oh i guess you mean the per-state popular vote. Hmmm

    What I mean is if a state has 6 votes and votes 66% Biden then he gets 4 and Trump 2.

    It would be interesting to see if it would change things much


  • #2214
    MJohnston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,021 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Is there anywhere I could get a breakdown of what the electoral college votes would look like if states had to split them based on percentage of the vote

    This site may update post-election: https://electoralvotemap.com/what-if-all-states-split-their-electoral-votes-like-maine-and-nebraska/#Election_of_2016


  • #2215
    terryduff12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    McFly85 wrote: »
    I can see this dragging on. Looks like Biden could clinch it but I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump spends the rest of his time trying to discredit the result and bring it to the courts, regardless of evidence.

    I find it bizarre that so many people(including many on this thread) are championing this course of action. People speak of Trump as some sort of messiah who can do no wrong and cannot fail, when he’s arguably the worst President the US has ever had.

    It seems like millions of Americans don’t actually care about the democratic process anymore, as long as they’re on the winning side they don’t care how they got there.


    4 years later and people couldn't accept the fact trump won, tried everything to get him out. So if trump goes down the same route it will go to show both sides are as bad as each other.


  • #2216
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 56,215 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Does anyone know what the current status is of the Senate / House elections? Control of either likely to change hands?


  • #2217
    UpBack1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭UpBack1234


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Trump's speech earlier was a disgrace, to me it beggars belief that he got a single vote, nevermind x number of million. Christ Almighty

    I've been urging caution on looking at US politics through a European lens for a long time. America is a very foreign country and to many over there (almost 70 million so far) he's god's gift. I find it hard to fathom myself, but he represents a large part of what America is.


  • #2218
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,727 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    MJohnston wrote: »
    You want to clear up what you mean about PA’s popular vote not mattering?


    Way to twist things. Good job. If you took that from what I said then more power to you.


    Brian? wrote: »
    It’s clear alright. He needs to win Pa, Ga and Mi
    Exactly.


  • #2219
    RoryMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    So apparently Biden has broken the record for most votes ever?

    Wow. Just shows how popular he is

    Biden derangement syndrome will curse trump now for the rest of his life

    More a sign of how high the turnout was for this election as Trump is on course to also beat the previous record


  • #2220
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Wrecked tired but this has been ridiculously addictive since 11pm last night.

    While very tentative and early, it looks like the Blue wall could be a brick high. It all depends on the swing of early voting and if it can hold up for Biden.


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  • #2221
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,396 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    MJohnston wrote: »
    This site may update post-election: https://electoralvotemap.com/what-if-all-states-split-their-electoral-votes-like-maine-and-nebraska/#Election_of_2016

    Thanks. Exactly what I was after


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