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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #1682
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,615 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    If you vote Trump you are racist/homophbe/misogynist/deplorable bigot and a supporter of a bloke who is a lover of white supremecists and tied up in russian mob money etc. That isn't up for debate. I suppose at this stage the US has to accept that 50% of their population are that way. Nothing will change. Nothing has changed since the civil war era.

    Ha ha.

    Everything is up for debate.

    What about the increased votes Trump has received from minority communities? His distancing himself from white supremacist groups. Appointing a woman to the supreme Court just recently.

    People love to think Trump is Hitler, he's just a clown and the notion he's a fascist or a Nazi shows how uneducated people are about fascism.

    Glazers Out!



  • #1683
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    You mean if they count every vote? You Trumpists hate democracy don't you. Why are you so afraid that every vote would be counted?

    Nobody has a problem with legitimate votes being counted. People have suspicions about the possibility of tampering with the votes.


  • #1684
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    Why?

    Because it's patently untrue and deluded


  • #1685
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭omega man


    Biden ahead in Wisconsin now, jeez


  • #1686
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Bidens odds back to just over evens. This is some rollercoaster election.


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  • #1687
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    If you vote Trump you are racist/homophbe/misogynist/deplorable bigot and a supporter of a bloke who is a lover of white supremecists and tied up in russian mob money etc. That isn't up for debate. I suppose at this stage the US has to accept that 50% of their population are that way. Nothing will change. Nothing has changed since the civil war era.

    Or like the vast majority, you just vote Republican. Always have, always will.

    Branding them x, y, and z, is meaningless if it isn't true. It just makes you look a bit simple and dramatic.


  • #1688
    7aubzxk43m2sni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭7aubzxk43m2sni


    Odds on Biden have gone from 9/5 to 9/4 to 5/4.

    Mad stuff


  • #1689
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I hope Drunkmonkey cashed out on Trump as things just got very interesting.


  • #1690
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Feel sorry for that guy who had 500 on trump :/


  • #1691
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    omega man wrote: »
    Biden ahead in Wisconsin now, jeez

    So now we have to finish counting them, right?

    Biden's ahead you keep counting, Trump's ahead, you stop counting.


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  • #1692
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,290 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Biden's odds in to 11/8 now with Boyles.


  • #1693
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    BIDEN JUST TOOK THE LEAD IN WISCONSIN!!!

    You'll have to speak up...I'm wearing a towel.


  • #1694
    WrenBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Biden looks to have Wisconsin


  • #1695
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'd say it’s a natural pushback from being told that if you aren't aligned with Biden or Harris, you are a racist, homophobe, misogynist, deplorable bigot. I honestly think that the dems went too "left". It's telling that trumps numbers showed an increase with non-white people.

    I read that the only demographic he did worse than the last time with was white men, which is bizarre when you consider that we've been told that for 4 years, they were his target base that he was dog whistling to. It's almost as if it was a lie.

    Correct use of inverted commas..
    Did they or did Trumps campaign tell people that's what was being said?

    In some states there was a rise in Hispanic vote (Florida - based on the fear of Biden as a socialist which is fckuin hilarious). A lot of his wins came from working class white (the fear game worked well there).

    Id like to see what you read somewhere if you don't mind?

    Incidentally - if you did vote for Trump you did vote for a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, bigot. The action of voting for one tho doesn't necessarily make you one due to the weirdness of American party politics.


  • #1696
    holdyerhorses
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    nullzero wrote: »
    Ha ha.

    Everything is up for debate.

    What about the increased votes Trump has received from minority communities? His distancing himself from white supremacist groups. Appointing a woman to the supreme Court just recently.

    People love to think Trump is Hitler, he's just a clown and the notion he's a fascist or a Nazi shows how uneducated people are about fascism.

    I don't think Trump is Hitler. He is so historically and politically dim he doesn't understand what a fascist is, but yet he displays all the traits of one.

    Distancing himself from white supremacists groups was a soundbite, nothing more, he couldn't go on any longer in public w/o doing it. If you think that's changed anything, i would reassess that opinon.

    Appointing a woman to the SC! Larf! How progressive of him!


  • #1697
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    The CNN analysis is great right now.


  • #1698
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Question - with so many votes left to count, how are people calling it? I'm reading this won't be over for another week?

    7 days if it's really close, that's the limit for ballots to be received from absentee military, it's also the limit most States have at a minimum to resolve any voter disputes with the elections office, namely for those who have to cast provisional ballots to have time to go and get the provisional ballot certified.


  • #1699
    wonga77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Biden about 8 thousand votes ahead in Wisconsin, will go down to the wire


  • #1700
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    hmmm wrote: »
    The CNN analysis is great right now.

    Yes it is. Forensic analysis.


  • #1701
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    PA is gonna be a huge talking point over the next few weeks. Looks dodge.


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  • #1702
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    Even their own guy thinks they aren't educated. "I love the poorly educated."

    Education these days is quite a questionable idea. In democrat eyes plumbers, electricians, bricklayers etc are those poorly educated all the while we should believe that stuff like "lesbian dance" or "Queering Childhood" courses make you the educated one?

    I kid you not. Have a look at what is considered college education in the US:
    https://www.onlineuniversities.com/blog/2009/10/100-hilarious-college-courses-that-really-exist/
    or shorter on:
    https://bestlifeonline.com/funniest-college-courses/


  • #1703
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,615 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    I don't think Trump is Hitler. He is so historically and politically dim he doesn't understand what a fascist is, but yet he displays all the traits of one.

    Distancing himself from white supremacists groups was a soundbite, nothing more, he couldn't go on any longer in public w/o doing it. If you think that's changed anything, i would reassess that opinon.

    Appointing a woman to the SC! Larf! How progressive of him!

    So when he denies the things you accuse him of he's only doing it for optics?

    It's fine to not like the man, I don't, but at least be honest about things. Facts are facts, everything is up for debate and your opinion doesn't count any more than anyone else's.

    Glazers Out!



  • #1704
    Simo08
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭Simo08


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    If you vote Trump you are racist/homophbe/misogynist/deplorable bigot and a supporter of a bloke who is a lover of white supremecists and tied up in russian mob money etc. That isn't up for debate. I suppose at this stage the US has to accept that 50% of their population are that way. Nothing will change. Nothing has changed since the civil war era.

    This narrative is the major issue I have with anti trump people, this black and white generalisation. I personally think he's the best candidate for president of America, do I think he's the perfect human being? No of course I don't as no such thing exists.

    I'm none of the things you mentioned above and as another poster pointed out being accused of being those things has swayed people far away from the democratic party.

    The world is not black and white, it's many shades of grey, the problem people seem to have is they seem to think Trump = bad, Biden = good and things are not that straightforward.


  • #1705
    holdyerhorses
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Or like the vast majority, you just vote Republican. Always have, always will.

    Branding them x, y, and z, is meaningless if it isn't true. It just makes you look a bit simple and dramatic.

    No. They may vote Republican, but it's pure head in the sand stuff, and an excuse for voting for Trump. Don't vote, or vote 3rd party, whatever, but a vote for Trump is a vote for above, regardless of why.


  • #1706
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Do we have to listen to Trump gloating now? Another 4 years of bad grammar lol.


  • #1707
    Hoboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,664 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Overheal wrote: »
    7 days if it's really close, that's the limit for ballots to be received from absentee military, it's also the limit most States have at a minimum to resolve any voter disputes with the elections office, namely for those who have to cast provisional ballots to have time to go and get the provisional ballot certified.

    Is there a limit on counting?


  • #1708
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    If Biden takes Wisconsin this is the board:

    531706.PNG


  • #1709
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    PA is gonna be a huge talking point over the next few weeks. Looks dodge.

    Will go all the way to the supreme court where republican's will have control. Trump in the winner, time to face facts.


  • #1710
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Winning Wisconsin and pipping Georgia and Biden will get to 270 without Pennsylvania or Michigan.


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  • #1711
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Breaking news: that UK guy who wagered 5 million on A Trump has just ordered in 500K worth of fresh toilet roll!


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