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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #1502
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,887 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    What's happening lads, has trump any hope?

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #1503
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Overheal wrote: »
    You really don't know how to read it do you?

    I do. Iv been reading how 538 predicted biden as heavy favourite for months. That didn't work out. Just like their senate predictions.

    "We ran the election 10,000 times "

    Time for 538 to call it a day


  • #1504
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    The fact you guys still are convincing yourselves sleepy Joe will win

    Bless

    I can show you my research and analysis . It's over

    Go on then, what are you waiting for?


  • #1505
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Dont get your way? Throw out abuse at posters.

    Mod

    I wont repeat myself again. If you have an issue with a post report it. DO NOT CALL IT OUT IF YOU THINK IT BREAKS THE RULES.


  • #1506
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    landofthetree wrote: »
    :D

    You're in shock. Not surprising. I told you all the polls were wrong but you would listen. Like last time rassamus were the only polling company right.

    You didn't tell me anything :confused:

    I'm not in shock - I'm making an observation. Nothing shocks me after 2016, Brexit ref etc.

    And polls are also bull**** in my book so we agree on that.


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  • #1507
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    538 need to close up shop. Miles off reality again

    538 tout themselves as compete experts but as you say this is the second election in a row they’ve got completely wrong.

    They were saying it’s 90% sure that Biden would win....?!

    I’m just glad I didn’t put any bets on based on 538s analysis.


  • #1508
    rosser44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭rosser44


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Dont get your way? Throw out abuse at posters.

    How did I not get my way? I got you to admit you do not care about the democratic process, you just want your guy to come out on top - regardless of him cheating to get there.

    The election is not over yet as all votes have not been counted


  • #1509
    Dressoutlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
    Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
    Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country


  • #1510
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,124 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/Seighin_OC/status/1323907550547451904


  • #1511
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    CNN are starting to admit it's looking bad for Biden.

    CNN’s
    @JohnKingCNN
    just admitted that Joe Biden needs to win 75% of the remaining votes to overtake President Trump in Pennsylvania.

    Even went as far as saying “that’s a steep hill.”


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  • #1512
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The numbers in Georgia are looking interesting. Trump had a sizable lead of 300k there about 3 hours ago. It's now down to 100k with a significant number still to count mainly from Atlanta.


  • #1513
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    Question about the Electoral College - do all states give all their electoral votes to whoever won the popular vote? Or do any of them allocate differently?

    Nebraska and Maine allocate them based on congressional district.


  • #1514
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,044 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Overheal wrote: »
    So which bookies are paying out already?

    Paddy Power offering me a grand to cash out since last night, I'll hold on for rest Paddy thank you very much..


  • #1515
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    What's happening lads, has trump any hope?

    Definitely. Too early too call yet. This is the state of things based on races called/toss-ups according to associated press.

    531693.PNG


  • #1516
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,875 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    Question about the Electoral College - do all states give all their electoral votes to whoever won the popular vote? Or do any of them allocate differently?

    All of them work like that except Nebraska and Maine which allocate them based on sub districts within the state

    But yep, popular vote within the state get all the votes.


  • #1517
    readyletsgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    ....

    EDIT: Its ok, someone answered my question below.

    It should be the popular vote though. It doesn't matter that there is 20,000 (or however low the population is) in one state and 10 million in another. I just dont understand that. Count it all as votes.


  • #1518
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Was it Georgia that they said had a load of "postal" ballots handed in in person today? Surely they swing even, if not more Trump.


  • #1519
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    None of the big US stations are calling Arianna yet. Where are people on here seeing that?


  • #1520
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Me excluded . Thanks in advance

    I hope you'll be ok when the Donald loses because of the postal service.


  • #1521
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,714 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Seighin_OC/status/1323907550547451904

    That was the map I saw when I woke up. Deja vu


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  • #1522
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,887 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Overheal wrote: »
    Definitely. Too early too call yet. This is the state of things based on races called/toss-ups according to associated press.

    531693.PNG

    Better than expected then, I thought this would be fairly one way listening to the news last night.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #1523
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Dressoutlet wrote: »
    Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
    Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
    Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

    Because heavily populated areas like Texas and new york would decide every election. People living in rural states wouldn't get a say.


  • #1524
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Dressoutlet wrote: »
    Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
    Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
    Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajavsMbCapY


  • #1525
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    The fact you guys still are convincing yourselves sleepy Joe will win

    Bless

    I can show you my research and analysis . It's over

    Mod

    Dont post in this thread again.


  • #1526
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    readyletsgo wrote: »
    Maybe I'm (most likely) stupid, but why do reporters say that in some areas they have 'shut down counting now because its clear Trump has won'?

    If Trump is ahead by 6,000 votes and there are only 5,000 left to count. Why bother?


  • #1527
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,818 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Dressoutlet wrote: »
    Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
    Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
    Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

    Its effectively to stop bullying by larger population centres/states. It forces the candidates to fight for votes in the smaller states, as those states have slightly more electoral college votes proportionally to population than the bigger states.
    It keeps the concept that this is a country of united states rather than just one block of people.

    That's the reasoning, I'm not defending it or supporting it.


  • #1528
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,861 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Dressoutlet wrote: »
    Can someone explain, in layman terms for the dumb blonde posting (me, I'm not dumb, just using a stereotype) why the election is not won by votes.
    Theres 5 million votes. One person gets 251 million votes, the other gets 249 million votes, then whoever has the most votes win.
    Why do they do it different states? And not the whole Country

    Different states have more votes that go towards the 270 electoral college votes that are needed to be elected.
    CA has 55
    NC has 15

    It doesn’t get divided on population.


  • #1529
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,896 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Question...

    Everyone seems to be counting that Pennsylvania will go to Biden because of the 2.2m mail ballots.

    But from what I read here overnight, the breakdown of those votes by registration is approx:
    1.2m - Dem
    600k - Rep
    400k - Ind

    Well first of all, Trump leads by 675k. If all the registered Dems vote as expected, they lead by 525k. But then the 600k Rep votes if they back their man takes them back into the lead. It falls to the 400k independent votes.

    And the elephant in the room is Biden's views on fracking. Will that sway the independent vote towards Trump? Could it even swing some of the Dem registered voters against Joe?


  • #1530
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Overheal wrote: »
    So which bookies are paying out already?
    Whichever bookie decides the payout is less than what the coverage they get is worth


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  • #1531
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    Better than expected then, I thought this would be fairly one way listening to the news last night.

    There was loads of optimism about the colossal early turnout. More early votes were cast in Texas than in all of 2016, and they tended to be by registered democrats and independents more so than republicans.


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