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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #1262
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    The average wage in the US has risen 8k since Trump was elected. That is what gets votes. We can berate all we like, if we saw a similar result in our ar$e pockets we’d re-elect the same government too, let’s not be precious about it.
    I don’t like his policies and the way he has treated immigrant families at all, but as in all things, people just think from a selfish viewpoint what’s in it for me? And that is what influences their vote. We call it parish pump politics, they call it maga.


  • #1263
    M.T. Cranium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,022 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    60-40 Trump would be my call on the current undecided situation. We won't know for at least a week. There are five or six states that cannot be declared until all these mailed in ballots arrive, get counted, and in some cases litigated. The totals of more decided states are about equal.

    My belief is that there won't be any sense of who won this election for at least a week, possibly longer. And then there will be some suspense around any legal challenges and if the presumptive result is very close, the behaviour of electors -- last time, seven out of the 540 votes cast were not as authorized by the state governments (those individuals are known as "faithless electors.") Now in 2016, five of those seven were committed to obvious loser Hillary Clinton and had some latitude to fool around, which is what they did, with votes for marginal or non-existent candidates.

    Two of the faithless electors were pledged to Donald Trump. If this happens again in a very close election, it will promote a political crisis over several weeks ending only with the decision then made in the Congress.

    Anything could happen in this volatile situation.


  • #1264
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Biden or Trump
    Who looking more likely


  • #1265
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    This election is over.

    Donald j trump has done it again.


  • #1266
    sheeplover55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭sheeplover55


    Donna Brazile on Fox " I believe every vote should be counted. "

    Also " I believe every debate question should be leaked to my parties Candidate ".


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  • #1267
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Whoever wins it's a bad result as it would appear the will win by a tight margin, so divisions will continue.


  • #1268
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,262 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Devastating result if Trump wins. I can’t believe it. What IS wrong with so many of the American public?

    The rural poorly educated were always going to vote for him. There's no helping these people and unfortunately there's enough of them to make the difference.


  • #1269
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,353 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Even if that gowl gets another 4 years, this is a pleasant distraction from 24/7 Covid news.


  • #1270
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    This election is over.

    Donald j trump has done it again.

    Isn't it usually standard to count the votes first?


  • #1271
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Trump in Florida by 10%+ was my favourite, poster claimed it was their job to figure this out and all.......

    Can you imagine

    You kept me honest through this whole thing . Appreciated


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  • #1272
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    The average wage can be heavily skewed by high earners. Is the ordinary person better off, or are already wealthy people getting a bit more wealthy?

    Record low unemployment


  • #1273
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    The average wage can be heavily skewed by high earners. Is the ordinary person better off, or are already wealthy people getting a bit more wealthy?

    I don’t know, but it’s average working people who are supporting Trump the most, so I’d presume they’ve seen benefits from his term in office.


  • #1274
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This Trump speech.



  • #1275
    Dozyart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Dozyart


    Trump is a rambling clown


  • #1276
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Black Hawk Down wrote: »
    Maybe instead of relying on dodgy polls/surveys, the left should have got out and rolled up their sleeves and actually campaigned properly to get people's votes? Maybe they should have knocked on millions of doors like the Republicans did?

    Oh, that's too obvious isn't? Too old school for the so-called clever clogs on the left, who think they're so much smarter than all those silly Trump voters! Egg firmly on face of the Dems and the lefties in general. They've been outsmarted by Trump yet again! ;)

    Meh seems Dems thought actual policies were important instead of hashtags, empty pages and rabble.

    The Dems majorly overestimated the American voters and it turns out simply knocking on a door with a free hat/pen is enough to secure a vote.


  • #1277
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Georgia has two BIG dem counties to come in yet Trump says he won the state.


  • #1278
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    extra gravy wrote: »
    The rural poorly educated were always going to vote for him. There's no helping these people and unfortunately there's enough of them to make the difference.

    You’d be very surprised to know that well educated urban dwellers support him in droves too, they just keep quiet about it, hence the polls being so very wrong.


  • #1279
    one world order
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    When the global media is controlled by a satanic cult they will continue to attack him daily. Luckily enough people in America realise the mass produced media is corrupt and dishonest so no point in voting for their chosen politician.


  • #1280
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Does trump know that the election isn't over?


  • #1281
    corcaigh07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,776 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    This is a crazy speech


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  • #1282
    Scot_in_Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Scot_in_Dublin


    And he's calling fraud and now saying taking it to the Supreme Court and trying to end further votes being counted. Wow


  • #1283
    SortingYouOut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Meh seems Dems thought actual policies were important instead of hashtags, empty pages and rabble.

    The Dems majorly overestimated the American voters and it turns out simply knocking on a door with a free hat/pen is enough to secure a vote.

    Either side as bad as eachother. The Democrats are a corrupt bunch. Either side is essentially ran by corporate lobbyists, Americans never win.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • #1284
    Mushy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,011 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Is the election still a fraud if trump wins?


  • #1285
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There's your final power grab. Trump is going to try to stop votes that have already been cast from being counted.


  • #1286
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    It's not a victory speach, it's a whine and call for people to go out and riot... But with just enough in there to claim that isn't what he said.


  • #1287
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    This is a crazy speech

    It's dangerous. It's as simple as that.


  • #1288
    crisco10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Scot_in_Dublin wrote: »
    And he's calling fraud and now saying taking it to the Supreme Court and trying to end further votes being counted. Wow

    I felt physically ill listening to that.

    Counting is still happening, but he's basically attempted to usurp the election.


  • #1289
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    screamer wrote: »
    You’d be very surprised to know that well educated urban dwellers support him in droves too, they just keep quiet about it, hence the polls being so very wrong.

    Probably not but the American "democratic" system gives much more value to the votes of the uneducated rural voter.


  • #1290
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Georgia has two BIG dem counties to come in yet Trump says he won the state.

    He's further behind in arizona than ahead in georgia, but georgia is uncatchable and arizona is up for grabs........


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  • #1291
    Dozyart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Dozyart


    The president of the U.S. declaring he doesnt know how the voting works in his country,how does anyone take him seriously?


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