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Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    To best of my knowledge MOT is v.close pal of varadkars husband/parthner....hence the rather well worded phrases/responces surronding his 'friendship' to him

    But why not say he’s a friend of my partner or former friend of mine anything else but not my friend given the images etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Helen McEntee wasn't impressed when her name was dragged into it either when she went out to bat for him yesterday.

    He didn't bring her name into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    thomas 123 wrote: »
    But why not say he’s a friend of my partner or former friend of mine anything else but not my friend given the images etc.

    Think he said he met him 2 or 3 times in the last year.

    Pretty easy to know if hes lying.

    MOT could destroy him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    You know the way the T shock was asked is this the only time he’s done this and he said “yes”.
    It felt like a real leading question as if there’s another story to tell - oldest trick in the book if you want to nail someone is get a good decent denial first- anyone think there’s another episode here?
    Yep.
    Then he replied to Toibin later with 'not of this nature' which drew the gasps.
    Any fool can see he's hedging his bets, he even did it in real time
    ie he doesn't know what else will come out and he most definitely has leaked as Minister and Taoiseach and Tanaiste.


    I thought Doherty, Toibin, Pringle, Paul Murphy and Connolly did a good job.
    Connolly should stick to being a pretty good TD - she ain't cut out for LCC deputy chair to be honest.
    O'Riordain sounded, looked and acted like a fool.
    Catherine Murphy is a good TD but an absolutely brutal speaker though she did get him on his bleating about he always keeps up to date with GPs/health matters as he 'had unfinished business to do' as he's from that background but yet didn't have a clue (untrue) about the garda economic investigations and turmoil within NAGP.
    You can bet his last pair of Trudeau tw*t's socks he knew all there was to know about NAGP.


    Too many times however, the questioners let LV get away with actually talking up his (his govts) May 2019 achievement rather than simply cutting him off when he started down that route for the umpteenth time which of course was to run down the clock.


    I read a lot of let's say, 'pro-LV' posts here saying sure everyone leaks, what would the papers/tv/radio do for exclusives etc.
    Well, some govt politicians at some time do leak for sure - but when they get exposed it is usually bye-bye time.

    A Taoiseach is the ultimate no-no to get caught.
    An ex-Taoiseach caught leaking while publicly on the record deriding the practice and saying he won't stand for it is a complete lame duck and more harsh words too.

    Varadkar won't get sacked because that would endanger the coalition but within a very short period I can see him 'voluntarily' resigning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Helen McEntee wasn't impressed when her name was dragged into it either when she went out to bat for him yesterday.

    In fairness she came out spouting nonsense on the radio as Pearse D said, she simply did know about engagements with NAGP yet stated it as facts on national radio, this is our minister of justice and deserves her name being dragged around if she’s willing to lie so blatantly imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    thomas 123 wrote: »
    You can’t just call someone a homophobe because they didn’t say something in the way you feel it should have been said.

    I heard it that way too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Think he said he met him 2 or 3 times in the last year.

    Pretty easy to know if hes lying.

    MOT could destroy him.

    Sure even if it was 2-3 times a year that’s pretty normal
    for adults who are friends is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Sorry I've completely missed this but is Matt O Tuathail the person who leaked all this stuff about leaks?

    I thought it was someone in the NAGP who was disgruntled about something. Isn't MOT supposed to be his friend?
    Or am I wrong.


  • Posts: 4,501 [Deleted User]


    Jaysus, if your explaining your losing. And watching the news he's losing big tonight.

    Niall Collins out now on prime time to defend the indefensible. Good luck with that Niall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Being on the same side as Rabb will never be a good thing, imo.
    People need to ditch purist politics.
    Raab is reprehensible.
    So what.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    He didn't bring her name into it.

    Doherty did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Jaysus, if your explaining your losing. And watching the news he's losing big tonight.

    Niall Collins out now on prime time to defend the indefensible. Good luck with that Niall.

    “I take full responsibility for my actions”

    Proceeds to wheel out lackeys on all channels - the mind baffles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Jaysus, if your explaining your losing. And watching the news he's losing big tonight.

    Niall Collins out now on prime time to defend the indefensible. Good luck with that Niall.

    Ah come on.

    If you're explaining you're loosing?

    Would you prefer he went the John Delaney route and didn't answer questions?

    Yeah he had nothing to hide in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Doherty did.

    Yep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    He didn't do enough for O'Callaghan...the FFer sees some political capital here.

    https://twitter.com/OCallaghanJim/status/1323709090586152960

    O'Callaghan is about as subtle as a brick in what he is at all the time.

    Clearly pitching himself for a leadership battle against Martin and has been for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Sorry I've completely missed this but is Matt O Tuathail the person who leaked all this stuff about leaks?

    I thought it was someone in the NAGP who was disgruntled about something. Isn't MOT supposed to be his friend?
    Or am I wrong.

    No, chay Bowes was the leaker, MOT was the recipient of the leaked info.

    MOT is just been thrown under a bus by Leo as Leo needs someone to pin blame on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    McMurphy wrote: »
    No, chay Bowes was the leaker, MOT was the recipient of the leaked info.

    MOT is just been thrown under a bus by Leo as Leo needs someone to pin blame on.

    MOT holds the key to all this.

    He knows all the info.

    Leo could regret throwing him under the bus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    How the feck did they let her associate herself with them when they are a let wing magazine!!

    LOL she is a fruitcake, probably jumped on the racist bandwagon recently.

    She was on staff at the Indo, 'Chief Features Writer' no less. As with Waters, they had journo careers pre off the wall-ism.

    We've had posters insulted and the publication released this info on varadkar dismissed. Par for the course when ever FG is criticised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    O'Callaghan is about as subtle as a brick in what he is at all the time.

    Clearly pitching himself for a leadership battle against Martin and has been for a while.

    He’s really diminished himself in my eyes this past few months with his rent a quote attitude to any fart that takes place in Leinster House.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    MOT holds the key to all this.

    He knows all the info.

    Leo could regret throwing him under the bus.

    I'd say Leo and MOT have come to an agreement that Leo would look after him when he throws him under the bus. Wait to see MOT quietly being added to some board or to a quango with a nice little salary to go with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Floppybits wrote: »
    I'd say Leo and MOT have come to an agreement that Leo would look after him when he throws him under the bus. Wait to see MOT quietly being added to some board or to a quango with a nice little salary to go with it.

    Some claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    thomas 123 wrote: »
    “I take full responsibility for my actions”

    Proceeds to wheel out lackeys on all channels - the mind baffles.

    That’s why you appoint trusted allies to Ministries. It’s part of the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Some claim.

    Sure is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Jim Root wrote: »
    He’s really diminished himself in my eyes this past few months with his rent a quote attitude to any fart that takes place in Leinster House.

    Maybe he'd go up in your eyes if he started bottling these farts and couriering them to you on the Q.T Jim? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Floppybits wrote: »
    I'd say Leo and MOT have come to an agreement that Leo would look after him when he throws him under the bus. Wait to see MOT quietly being added to some board or to a quango with a nice little salary to go with it.

    LV had contacted MOT 3 times recently was it?
    As I've said elsewhere, hard to prove if LV gets any reward for this, (or has gotten), that's why we have protocols in place and people who breech them need to be held to account, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    Floppybits wrote: »
    I'd say Leo and MOT have come to an agreement that Leo would look after him when he throws him under the bus. Wait to see MOT quietly being added to some board or to a quango with a nice little salary to go with it.

    Not a hope. MOT is toxic now and won’t be touched by anyone. His what’s app messages alone would attest to that. Comes across as awful. He’s done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Simple fact is that it's an open secret that Varadkar has been leaking sensitive information to others including journalists. You'd want to be quite naive to think this is the first time he has leaked such information.

    Therefore there are journalists at home tonight watching on the telly knowing quite well that they can sink Varadkar tomorrow with information he has supplied them with.

    But such is the rotten state of Irish journalism that they'll quietly keep their mouths shut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Apparently LV contacted MOT over the weekend to ask him "what it was all about".

    FFS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Apparently LV contacted MOT over the weekend to ask him "what it was all about".

    FFS.

    Yeah he said that earlier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Apparently LV contacted MOT over the weekend to ask him "what it was all about".

    FFS.

    On 3 occasions.


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