NBA 2K21 / NBA Live 21

Zero-Cool wrote: »

New gameplay vid for next gen 2k21 and also new wnbpa nice where you can create a female player and go through a career mode and also bring her online solely for female characters. Lot of dopes complaining about it already so it might actually be a good place to play online.

The new gameplay vid is showing off a new horizontal camera which is terrible, looks unplayable. The load screen though was 2 seconds compared to 40 on current gen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbOpRPp_vjs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_l13Cltpw4

Hopefully this game irons out some of the legacy issues.

Also the shot aiming needs to be rectified to the current situation. I've had to play on All Star the the last while as you're going to brick nearly every shot on HoF unless its green.
Doesn't matter if you're open and have a high shot percentage or loads of badges.
Missing as many now than I did two months ago as I switched back earlier this week to try it again.

The aiming is just a mess despite how positive it sounds.

Running plays better be simplified as well. Having to hit 7 buttons is tedious especially when you're in the middle of trying to hold onto the ball.

Zero-Cool wrote: »

They are getting way too complex with shooting. Next gen now has an arc system where you make a flat or high arc shot as well. So now you have release timing, aim and arc. Absolutely unnecessary. You can turn those off but they give a boost to shooting of you use them.

Next gen career mode and 'experience formally known as neighborhood' news should be coming in the next few days. That's what will tell me if i need this day 1 or not.

Speaking of, they announced next gen versions will release same day as the consoles they are on.

I read the article and it sounded like 95% of what the current gen is.
It just makes no sense, you dont need to time it but its difficult to adjust to the left or right off centre.
Theres no real logic to what side it will be so you can either risk shooting airballs or use X and at least always hit the rim.
They just penalised the buttons to levels that make it pointless online or on HoF.

Well the word was always that it would be available with the launch of the Xbox anyway, not sure if PS changed in that regard.

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Chris Smoove career video. gameplay looks fun story looks shyte. Only difference between this career and current gen is you can now choose G League instead of college with new cutscenes. College route looks the same except you can play 4 years now. In this game, he wrecked the place, easily player of the game and coach takes him out in the 4th to berate him for having such a bad game. If they are gonna script a story, at least they should nerf your character to fit with it but then no one would want that.

From seeing City and Career, I have zero hype for it but might still get it as I have a voucher for a game and would prefer to spend someone else's money on it when I know I'll end up getting it eventually.

Also, the way the devs said next gen was built from the ground up is a complete lie but no surprise there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyy-_9RE0n8

I got a code for an Xbox through here so my plan is to get a loan at lunch and grab it in Argos this evening before they close(code expires today so its a tight make).

Not sure ill get to play this evening with the download length but it does look a bit different.

Seriously the current gen version is 99% the same so this looks more like a traditional upgrade in comparison.

I had spent my original 100k, the plan was to keep most of it but i ended up sinking it and saying that once my player was decent and the next gen was close id save my VC.

I think I've saved about 45k back up but hadnt played much lately and couldn't stomach more than one game a day for most of the release.
Still gives me about 145k to build a player and ill likely build a dominating C again due to the shooting changes and some other issues.

I also have a lot of MyTeam built up just incase the game improved the 5v5 experience, so i was logging in and getting the daily rewards and opening my weekly packs.

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Chris Smoove career video. gameplay looks fun story looks shyte. Only difference between this career and current gen is you can now choose G League instead of college with new cutscenes. College route looks the same except you can play 4 years now. In this game, he wrecked the place, easily player of the game and coach takes him out in the 4th to berate him for having such a bad game. If they are gonna script a story, at least they should nerf your character to fit with it but then no one would want that.

From seeing City and Career, I have zero hype for it but might still get it as I have a voucher for a game and would prefer to spend someone else's money on it when I know I'll end up getting it eventually.

Also, the way the devs said next gen was built from the ground up is a complete lie but no surprise there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyy-_9RE0n8

This is the same career story is it not?.

I thought there was a different story. But the opening scene and characters look identical to me.

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Only difference is if you choose g League, you're teammates are all old 2k career rejects. Apparently, some new cutscenes in college but more or less the same from what I've been reading.

I didn't even see any option for that.

I loaded the career and it was the same story as last time with 4 games to play.

I finished the first and saw that video shows he has 10 games to play.
So i skipped to the NBA but im in the actual NBA so I'm confused as to how you get into that.

The best thing to do anyway is to get the first season done ASAP, maxing the story only gives you a certain boost. Your main boost comes after the first season contract so i just play enough of season 1 to become a starter and get season two going with the higher salary.

Its definitely more of a jump than the current gen. Core engine remains but feels new.

Made a PF first in Zion comparison. The builder isnt as restrictive now so there might be some weird builds that dominate ie big and shooting/fast

BrentMused wrote: »

What type of build do you usually go for with your MyPlayer guys or any tips on what to go for?

All depends how you want to play.

I was going to make another large C, as online the lag makes shooting a lottery. Additionally theyve changed the shooting so you'll miss considerably more using the button now.

When i went to build a player I ended up making a PF that had an 84 mid range/high 70s 3 pointer, with decent rebounding and driving ability.

Hes 6'9 so a few inches smaller than standard. I was watching a video that gave a comparision to AD but the guy was leaving some stats on the minimum ie 25 and i just can't have some that low so my build ended up being like Zion.

I came up against a genuine C in the park and he wiped me on the boards and dunked over me from standing a few times.

Maybe i should have just made a player like that as you're not as reliant on poor teammates but the VC was pumped in bulk.

I did get a large number of badges with the build though, 50 odd which is the main thing to a build.

I might go back and make a PG next but I'm committed to the PF now as he has over 150k put into him.

Just played a 5 v 5 in MyTeam.

All I'll say is WOW. Complete joke and I wont play 5v5 again.

I won't say its a huge issue because its really simple. The shooting is beyond a joke.

You will miss WIDE OPEN layups with 90+ players for some weird reason. Im not talking about driving shots that were always prone to miss. I mean you're unchallenged and you get a slightly late or a late and you miss.
I don't think i got anything that wasnt a dunk.

I rage quit at 3rd quarter time down 7. No point when both jumpers and layups are just missing over and over.

The guy hadnt a CLUE how to play yet he could still hammer me as all he would do was shoot a telegraphed 3 and while he only got 7:21 from the screen shot i took at 40-32 it was still better than the return i was getting from my 14:40 shooting that only had 8 3s.
He wad literally just walking with the ball, stopping and shooting a 3 and its still a better tactic than shooting an open lay up.

Ill check the 2kU to see am i missing something but its even worse than the current gen as i only found the jumpers were penalised whereas here these layups are just constantly missing(i played a few park and 2 career last night and didnt notice this issue in MyPlayer).

To add insult to injury he was wearing a light grey and i white which just made things even more awkward.

That game would have been fine had that one aspect being different so they can easily fix this.

Edit: i just rewatched a clip i made where AD missed an uncontested lay up from under the rim and theres a little green arrow on the top and it went to the right edge of the bar. So there appears to be some kind of lay up aiming despite using the button and having aiming off.