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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10



    Someone's scared ****less


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Someone's scared ****less

    Michael knows the only way FF recovers is to take back the votes he has lost to SF.

    Interesting that he has done a solo run on the Unity Unit...there were none of the other party's of government with him on the podium with him at the rather sanitised launch in Dublin Castle. Did he freeze them out to be seen as the leader of this project or do they know it is doomed to be an echo chamber and stayed away from it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I understood the DPC says what they done is illegal

    The DPC has been wrong before, and if she is right, it would mean that the Commission would have to destroy the records to preserve anonymity - that is the point you and others are failing to see.

    The Commission promised anonymity. The DPC says people can access records. The law says the Commission can destroy records when making its report. It has to do so if it is to protect its legal obligation to preserve anonymity. New law to transfer the documents to Tulsa and the Department brings time to address the 30 year problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The DPC has been wrong before,

    So has the government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    They, like others, wanted to spend the Apple money. That meant Ireland not partnering with Apple in an appeal. Which would have made Apple's case weaker.

    I saw nothing wrong with that.

    And that was shown to be a really stupid idea once the court ruled.

    Pearse was stupid, Paul murphy was stupid, and you are saying you agreed with them, am I getting it right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    That is not an opinion on it. It is the reverse of an opinion...I don't know the answer, therefore t remains to be seen. FG FF Lab all have differing views...I have no opinion on them either and it remains to be seen if they are right.

    The experts have told us that there is a pension bomb and the demographics will not look after themselves hence the need to raise the pension age. Are you saying that the experts are wrong?

    If you explain why they might be wrong I am willing to listen, so go right ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The experts have told us that there is a pension bomb and the demographics will not look after themselves hence the need to raise the pension age. Are you saying that the experts are wrong?

    If you explain why they might be wrong I am willing to listen, so go right ahead.

    The experts told us to go to level 5.

    I know very little of the pension age issue. I know you as a Green voter will defend the FG position though. Fair play to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    And that was shown to be a really stupid idea once the court ruled.

    Pearse was stupid, Paul murphy was stupid, and you are saying you agreed with them, am I getting it right?

    If an Irish government had not partnered with Apple to appeal, we would have been fully entitled to do what we wished with our share of the money. Would Apple have won on their own? They probably wouldn't have appealed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The experts have told us that there is a pension bomb and the demographics will not look after themselves hence the need to raise the pension age. Are you saying that the experts are wrong?

    If you explain why they might be wrong I am willing to listen, so go right ahead.

    Stupid? Your tianiste didn't even know what Midnight meant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Stupid? Your Tánaiste didn't even know what Midnight meant


    His head is about to explode in 3 minutes when the clocks go back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭christy c


    Would Apple have won on their own? They probably wouldn't have appealed.

    I have not seen evidence that Apple would not have won on their own. What are you basing your opinion on that they probably wouldn't have appealed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭christy c


    blanch152 wrote: »
    And that was shown to be a really stupid idea once the court ruled.

    Pearse was stupid, Paul murphy was stupid, and you are saying you agreed with them, am I getting it right?

    This sums it up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭a very cool kid


    If an Irish government had not partnered with Apple to appeal, we would have been fully entitled to do what we wished with our share of the money. Would Apple have won on their own? They probably wouldn't have appealed.

    Do you think Ireland being involved changed the courts decision? Of course Apple were going to appeal this to the death, it's a massive amount of money!

    The last couple of pages showing SF have let you down again Butcher's Boy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Do you think Ireland being involved changed the courts decision? Of course Apple were going to appeal this to the death, it's a massive amount of money!

    The last couple of pages showing SF have let you down again Butcher's Boy

    I think that is rubbish to be honest. Even downright silly.

    Had Ireland put it's hands up and said that it was wrong and had given 'state aid' and gone with what is coming anyway from the EU, it would have been much harder for Apple to win. Stands to reason.

    SF had nothing to do with the case BTW, how could they have 'let me down'?

    The EU have gone after corporations across the EU, Google, Microsoft, Qualcomm Starbucks etc etc.

    I happen to agree with the EU here not any Irish political party. I would rather be with the EU than with a corporation making profits that are many multiples of what Apple were fined here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    https://twitter.com/finegael/status/1320288995876614144?s=21

    Couple of home truths for first time SF voters to digest with their porridge.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    https://twitter.com/finegael/status/1320288995876614144?s=21

    Couple of home truths for first time SF voters to digest with their porridge.

    Hahaha that's embarrassing that FG are on twitter again having a go at SF.

    They are rattled to the core

    They could have added this aswell

    https://twitter.com/MarkAgitprop/status/1320307889802805249?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Pretty much as I pointed out earlier Johnny.
    Two faced outfit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Hahaha that's embarrassing that FG are on twitter again having a go at SF.

    They are rattled to the core

    Are you happy with that set of double standards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Hahaha that's embarrassing that FG are on twitter again having a go at SF.

    They are rattled to the core

    They could have added this aswell

    https://twitter.com/MarkAgitprop/status/1320307889802805249?s=19


    Up in the opinion polls, dude. All good in FG. County hurling now lads.

    SF using the border to hide away money. It’s like Arlene and the cash for ash!!

    SF wouldn’t know what Republicanism means if it slapped them in the face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Pretty much as I pointed out earlier Johnny.
    Two faced outfit.

    Yeh, sure BoH. I give you the morally upstanding FG party. (until they are caught that is)
    FINE Gael admitted last night that illegal under-the-counter payments to staff continued until 1997 - two years after party leader Michael Noonan claimed they had been stopped.

    The party revealed on Friday night that they had made a £111,000 settlement to the Revenue Commissioners in respect of secret cash bonuses paid to staff over nine years.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-admits-secret-pay-ran-longer-than-claimed-26086712.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Yeh, sure BoH. I give you the morally upstanding FG party. (until they are caught that is)

    Not as naieve as you Francie, don't swallow your tongue there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Up in the opinion polls, dude. All good in FG. County hurling now lads.

    SF using the border to hide away money. It’s like Arlene and the cash for ash!!

    SF wouldn’t know what Republicanism means if it slapped them in the face.

    Hiding?

    If they were hiding it how would we know? Stay n the real world Johnny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Yeh, sure BoH. I give you the morally upstanding FG party. (until they are caught that is)



    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-admits-secret-pay-ran-longer-than-claimed-26086712.html

    Troll the archives like you normally do in response to the question put forward.
    Anything you can do I can do better is whistling away in my mind here.
    Stock response again, so predictable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Troll the archives like you normally do in response to the question put forward.
    Anything you can do I can do better is whistling away in my mind here.
    Stock response again, so predictable.

    Ah...don't like it being brought up BoH? Predictable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Troll the archives like you normally do in response to the question put forward.
    Anything you can do I can do better is whistling away in my mind here.
    Stock response again, so predictable.

    Troll the archives? In a Sinn Fein thread:confused:

    That story is younger than the GFA, I'll leave you to think about that for a while bish.

    Troll the archives. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Troll the archives? In a Sinn Fein thread:confused:

    That story is younger than the GFA, I'll leave you to think about that for a while bish.

    Troll the archives. :pac:

    You couldn't invent these guys...they must have been at the toilet when self awareness was being handed out. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Troll the archives? In a Sinn Fein thread:confused:

    That story is younger than the GFA, I'll leave you to think about that for a while bish.

    Troll the archives. :pac:

    Point taken Mc, I do try to keep it as current as possible myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Ah...don't like it being brought up BoH? Predictable.

    Don't care really Francie tbh.
    It's not what's in the papers or trending right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Don't care really Francie tbh.
    It's not what's in the papers or trending right now.

    You said on Turs morning that the mother and baby controversy wasn't in the media or trending that morning.

    Remind me why your opinion should be considered without a bathtub body tipper full of salt:D?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,568 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Don't care really Francie tbh.
    It's not what's in the papers or trending right now.

    The lesson FG don't seem to learn is that whenever they do something like this (remember the backlash when Leo had a pop at handing out foodparcels?) the public get reminded of FG playing very fast and loose with the rules. Currently being shared in social media as a result of the video is this for instance:
    Take the many TDs who own shares in multinational companies.

    Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe transferred his shares in international drinks company Diageo to his wife when it was pointed out to him by the Sunday Independent that the holding could be seen as a conflict.

    It could still be argued that transferring the shares to his wife has done very little to remove the conflict.

    The minister also has shares in consumer goods conglomerate Proctor & Gamble. We do not know how big a shareholding he has.

    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/politics/political-rich-list-some-tds-give-the-size-of-their-land-down-to-the-last-acre-36901480.html


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