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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

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    #7742
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    That came off a Zebre foot, not Sheehans hand. Unlucky.


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    #7743
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,896 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Ruddock is playing like he has a point to prove. He's ploughing into contact.


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    #7744
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,896 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Debut try for Sheahan


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    #7745
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,197 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Clegg wrote: »
    Ruddock is playing like he has a point to prove. He's ploughing into contact.

    Men and boys. He's bowling over guys in contact and is far smarter than any forward on the pitch.


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    #7746
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,341 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    I'm hurt, lads.


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    #7747
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,896 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Was Molony gouged?


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    #7748
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,896 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Lovely little strike play


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    #7749
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Ref has completely and absolutely bottled that. Muppet. Talked his way out of having to penalise a gouge despite the tmo's best efforts.


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    #7750
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Ref has completely and absolutely bottled that. Muppet. Talked his way out of having to penalise a gouge despite the tmo's best efforts.
    TMO should have been stronger then. This nonsense of talking in code or trying to prompt the ref needs to be cut it out. If the TMO thinks it needs to be a stronger sanction they need to just say it. Puts the pressure on the referee then.


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    #7751
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    kmart6 wrote: »
    TMO should have been stronger then. This nonsense of talking in code or trying to prompt the ref needs to be cut it out. If the TMO thinks it needs to be a stronger sanction they need to just say it. Puts the pressure on the referee then.

    Ref completely abdicated responsibility. The tmo told him there had been contact with the eye area and showed him over and over but when he just kept coming back to her with excuses for more clarification she eventually told him what he wanted to hear. It's not the tmo's job to make calls/override the ref.


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    #7752
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    So then the TMO bottled it by not sticking with their original take on it.


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    #7753
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,621 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Scabby try but delighted for Leavy. What a way to cap off the night for him.

    Edit: ah feck.


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    #7754
    OneLungDavy
    Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭OneLungDavy


    I like the look of Sheahan, Tommy O'Brien and Jack Dunne. I can see them being internationals in the next year or two.


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    #7755
    kingofthekong
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kingofthekong


    Everyone was good , was gonna single some players out but pretty much the whole 23 added something


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    #7756
    degsie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭degsie


    Impressive performance tonight.


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    #7757
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,197 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    It was solid. The Zebre showing is up there with the worst I've ever seen in the league though.

    I was most impressed with the O'Brien pair. Very rounded players.

    Also haven't seen him mentioned much but great to have DK back. Given how things have panned out, he'd have been starting for Ireland tomorrow if he stayed fit. Took his try well and great offload too for another.

    He's one of those guys who will be only appreciated after he's gone. Incredibly consistent and effective. Glad to see he's still scoring.


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    #7758
    briandebum
    Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭briandebum


    Leinster were good but Zebre brought all the intensity of a wet paper bag, so tough to judge the performance really.

    The one thing you can say independent of Zebre's performance is that Bryne can certainly kick a few nice conversions.


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    #7759
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    What I liked about the performance was how keen everyone was to get on the ball and also link up with those around them. Easy to do today, but the intent is very much there which is good.


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    #7760
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,068 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    briandebum wrote: »
    Leinster were good but Zebre brought all the intensity of a wet paper bag, so tough to judge the performance really.

    The one thing you can say independent of Zebre's performance is that Bryne can certainly kick a few nice conversions.

    Byrne’s kicks from hand were very good too. And I think one of good kicks for touch was by JOB and one was from TOB. But I think it showed how poor zebra were that they kept having to put all the players in the defensive line and kept leaving the backfield exposed. I really liked that the Leinster lads had the vision to see the space and run zebre ragged by playing into wherever they didn’t have defenders.

    Good performance by Leinster and I don’t want to take from their play and some great debuts, but very poor by zebre.


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    #7761
    kingofthekong
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kingofthekong


    Dan Sheehan for the Lions


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    #7762
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,068 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    kingofthekong wrote: »
    Dan Sheehan for the Lions

    Not sure about that’s but I’m not sure what Leinster needs poor aul Sean Cronin for anymore. He moved from third choice hooker to fourth choice hooker last night.

    Time to move him on, I’d say.


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    #7763
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,197 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Not sure about that’s but I’m not sure what Leinster needs poor aul Sean Cronin for anymore. He moved from third choice hooker to fourth choice hooker last night.

    Time to move him on, I’d say.

    In the current financial climate, he simply won't be renewed. There will be far bigger names likely to be forcibly retired also such as Sexton.

    Fardy being retained isn't looking like great business right now either. He's definitely going to be let go but I wouldn't be surprised if Toner is released too next summer as he turns 35.

    We're going to see the departure of 4 or 5 stalwarts next year and possibly the relocation of some other quality players in favour of younger and cheaper options.


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    #7764
    bayern
    Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Yeah unless fans can return in the new year, pro rugby in ireland is going to be devastated.


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    #7765
    kingofthekong
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kingofthekong


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Not sure about that’s but I’m not sure what Leinster needs poor aul Sean Cronin for anymore. He moved from third choice hooker to fourth choice hooker last night.

    Time to move him on, I’d say.

    Dan Sheehan too captain* the lions


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    #7766
    Serbian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭Serbian


    OneLungDavy wrote: »
    I like the look of Sheahan, Tommy O'Brien and Jack Dunne. I can see them being internationals in the next year or two.

    While they did look good, I think it would be a bit extreme to tout their international prospects based on the opposition here. The training sessions would have been a tougher test than the game itself.


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    #7767
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,068 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Buer wrote: »
    In the current financial climate, he simply won't be renewed. There will be far bigger names likely to be forcibly retired also such as Sexton.

    Fardy being retained isn't looking like great business right now either. He's definitely going to be let go but I wouldn't be surprised if Toner is released too next summer as he turns 35.

    We're going to see the departure of 4 or 5 stalwarts next year and possibly the relocation of some other quality players in favour of younger and cheaper options.

    Yeah sexton’s time is up anyway though. And Fardy was a good decision at the time but they really don’t need him at the moment. They could really do with an NIQ player with the quality of Lowe or a similar level project player.

    But I don’t want to be Captain Hindsight about Fardy. I remember thinking it was a very good signing to keep him for this year.

    When you consider the starting second rows minus the Ireland squad players were Toner and Moloney, they don’t need an expensive option in Fardy.

    I’d like to see more of Jack Dunne. He was constantly pushing his hair out of his face and was playing with his hair and missed the tackle that started zebre like break for the try.

    I’m fine with people doing what they want fashionwise, but he should wear a scrum cap if his hair is getting in his way.


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    #7768
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,197 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Yeah sexton’s time is up anyway though. And Fardy was a good decision at the time but they really don’t need him at the moment. They could really do with an NIQ player with the quality of Lowe or a similar level project player.

    But I don’t want to be Captain Hindsight about Fardy. I remember thinking it was a very good signing to keep him for this year.

    To be that pain, there were people at the time saying he shouldn't be retained. Toner's test career was clearly winding down, Baird had started to get time, Molony is an ever present in the camp, Dunne had been around for a while although missed a lot of last season due to injury.

    Fardy was a squad player last season more than a starter. I just don't think it made much sense at all at the time and even less when they saw Baird as being ahead of him when rugby returned.

    I think we're going to see him get single digit starts this season.

    Noticed that about Dunne and his hair too. Bit ridiculous.


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    #7769
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Ah lads as things have panned out we could have done without Fardy but at the time things weren't as clear. There was a possibility of losing up to 3 second rows to Irish camps and Fardy is still a quality player and with some of the teams that are going to be put out an old head in the dressing room is going to be needed.


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    #7770
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Teams will always end up with players/contracts that are surplus to requirements.


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    #7771
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Wasn’t that impressed by Dunne. Looks like a big unit but a bit on the slow side and not so dynamic. Or at least that’s how it appeared to me last night. Haven’t seen enough of him to make a full judgement. Feel the game is moving on (as ever) to more dynamic type players in the second row such as Itoje, Ryan and Baird.


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