Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

ganmo · 01-10-2020 01:06AM

Taxes are for other people

Say my name · 01-10-2020 02:19PM

I see Wexford is just behind Meath on the acreage of land that's going under solar farms.

There'll be a lot of sheep required to graze underneath.
Tillage, vegetable and grassland going to Solar.

Hard Knocks · 01-10-2020 02:31PM

Say my name wrote: »

I see Wexford is just behind Meath on the acreage of land that's going under solar farms.

There'll be a lot of sheep required to graze underneath.
Tillage, vegetable and grassland going to Solar.

With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

Buford T. Justice XIX · 01-10-2020 03:52PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

There's trouble managing the load and feeding in information on what supply is being pushed into the system. Too much fed in without enough being drawn down could overload the system, iirc. Smart metering would help a good bit in that regard but it seems to be pushed down the tracks even further this year.

Say my name · 01-10-2020 04:32PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

I don't know what the motives or hindrances are but it's 1060 ha (2620 acres) of ground now in this fell swoop going to be under panels in just Meath and Wexford.

wrangler · 01-10-2020 04:38PM

I see Tomas Burke has got the Livestock position in IFA , He used to be a right terrier if there was an issue, hopefully he hasn't mellowed since I left

Water John · 01-10-2020 04:38PM

There would be a bit of differential of about 5/10% solar output because of sunshine/irridation in favour of Wexford.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 01-10-2020 04:41PM

Just finished tidying up a shed here.

The good news is I have 8 more bales of straw than I thought I had.

The bad news is I have 8 fewer bales of hay than I thought I had.

Say my name · 01-10-2020 04:55PM

Water John wrote: »

There would be a bit of differential of about 5/10% solar output because of sunshine/irridation in favour of Wexford.

And even a difference between me in north Wexford and anyone on the south coast of Wexford.

I wonder though will the land owners still receive a bps payment?
If they won't they'll be forced onto the land market to retain their payments.
That's not to say they won't be in the market anyway looking for something to occupy their free time now with full pockets.

Say my name · 01-10-2020 04:57PM

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

Just finished tidying up a shed here.

The good news is I have 8 more bales of straw than I thought I had.

The bad news is I have 8 fewer bales of hay than I thought I had.

That's what you get for letting townies fill your shed..

Water John · 01-10-2020 05:05PM

Say my name wrote: »

And even a difference between me in north Wexford and anyone on the south coast of Wexford.

I wonder though will the land owners still receive a bps payment?
If they won't they'll be forced onto the land market to retain their payments.
That's not to say they won't be in the market anyway looking for something to occupy their free time now with full pockets.

That was an issue that came up when lease options were being initially offered. From memory, originally there was no problem. Then I think the Dept of Finance advocated a change but this was later rescinded. The land is still agricultural land TMK, hence the need to have sheep/calves on it. Solar electricity and organic meat production. Land loses about 30% of grass production due to shade.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 01-10-2020 07:06PM

Say my name wrote: »

That's what you get for letting townies fill your shed..

Tbf, I'd have a lot less of both if I left them empty the shed:p

Dinzee Conlee · 01-10-2020 08:02PM

Say my name wrote: »

And even a difference between me in north Wexford and anyone on the south coast of Wexford.

I wonder though will the land owners still receive a bps payment?
If they won't they'll be forced onto the land market to retain their payments.
That's not to say they won't be in the market anyway looking for something to occupy their free time now with full pockets.

As far as I know they don’t affect the BPS...

I don’t see why they should - if you can still graze sheep under them, that’s still farming...

Danzy · 01-10-2020 08:29PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

Entire farms will be covered. 70 acre one going up near me.

Dinzee Conlee · 01-10-2020 08:34PM

Danzy wrote: »

Entire farms will be covered. 70 acre one going up near me.

From what I have heard - a 70acre solar farm wouldn’t even be that big. They are looking for farms in the 100+ size of at all possible?

Would agree with Hard Knocks - why don’t they put some scheme in to put panels on shed roofs?
But as always, we want to take the easy way out

Water John · 01-10-2020 08:49PM

Five acres produces one MW. About 800Mw in in Phase 1. UK installed 1Gw solar last month alone.
I agree roofs should be used too at a different price point. But it would take a lot of roof space to cover five acres.
Great option for those whose land was suitably located.

Dinzee Conlee · 01-10-2020 08:52PM

Water John wrote: »

Five acres produces one MW. About 800Mw in in Phase 1. UK installed 1Gw solar last month alone.
I agree roofs should be used too at a different price point. But it would take a lot of roof space to cover five acres.
Great option for those whose land was suitably located.

Agree - I don’t think it should be either or...

I think there should be more micro generation possibilities supported, across all generation types - solar, wind, water...
Not just massive industrial ventures..

Waffletraktor · 01-10-2020 08:53PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

Roofs have to be too a certain weight bearing spec, about 5 years ago over here companies would re roof your sheds for free and upgrade for x years free rent. Helped alot of farms with knackered sheds string them out a while longer.

Water John · 01-10-2020 08:56PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Agree - I don’t think it should be either or...

I think there should be more micro generation possibilities supported, across all generation types - solar, wind, water...
Not just massive industrial ventures..

Absolutely agree, not a large difference in the scheme of things in terms of output but would greatly help with wider buy in from the public.

Danzy · 01-10-2020 09:12PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

From what I have heard - a 70acre solar farm wouldn’t even be that big. They are looking for farms in the 100+ size of at all possible?

Would agree with Hard Knocks - why don’t they put some scheme in to put panels on shed roofs?
But as always, we want to take the easy way out

Sheds are too small. 70 acres is a lot of sheds. 100 acres is more.

50HX · 01-10-2020 09:48PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

From what I have heard - a 70acre solar farm wouldn’t even be that big. They are looking for farms in the 100+ size of at all possible?

Would agree with Hard Knocks - why don’t they put some scheme in to put panels on shed roofs?
But as always, we want to take the easy way out

Plus they want the acerage in open tracks of land, not 100 acres in 20 fields type senario

I wonder like the forsetry would you have to re panel at your own expenses after so many years:D

gozunda · 01-10-2020 09:51PM

Danzy wrote: »

Sheds are too small. 70 acres is a lot of sheds. 100 acres is more.

There's big issues with transmission losses with electricity being produced in remote areas to provide for high demand elsewhere.

Makes more sense to have these solar 'farms' use brownfield sites adjacent to urban areas and unused land adjacent to major roadways.

A lot of these current developments are being driven by investment companies becauce 'green' investments are popular not necessarily that they makes sense ...

Water John · 01-10-2020 09:53PM

No, planning is for 25 years AFAIK. The only stipulation, the same as for wind turbines is reinstatement of the site. This has to be bonded by the developer with the LA.

To keep costs down most sites are developed near grid substations. Larger ones would be adjacent to 110kv substations.

Say my name · 02-10-2020 12:10AM

As good a thread as any to leave this.

https://twitter.com/AnnaDubowik1/status/1311768242088808452?s=20

_Brian · 02-10-2020 07:58AM

Eldest daughter was 18 yesterday. Had some family over last night at separate times for a piece of cake. Strange times.

Wee things like this that remind a fella of his age.

whelan2 · 02-10-2020 08:48AM

Apparently Donald Trump and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus

_Brian · 02-10-2020 09:32AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Apparently Donald Trump and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus

Cup of bleach three times a day and UV light up the gicker, he will be cured by Monday.

NcdJd · 02-10-2020 10:04AM

Not that I'd wish covid on anyone but I'm surprised it took so long for Mr Trump to catch it looking at all the engagements he goes to without wearing a mask.

NcdJd · 02-10-2020 10:13AM

Had a tooth that was giving me a lot of pain over the last few weeks. Dentist filled it but said it might need root canal. So anyway went to him yesterday and he said root canal might not work for this one but we can try it. I asked him how much will all this cost between root canal, post and crown. I just said after I heard all the money just take it out. Feel like a million dollars this morning. No more neurofen!

blue5000 · 02-10-2020 10:30AM

Might interest some here, Ireland's greenways/bike route map;

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1HAHB3jpXV7qgrTHgopH4Zl7-ItDHGEPv&ll=53.4320326010536%2C-8.939188105408457&z=7

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