What temperature do you think is too cold to leave a dog outside?

AMKC · 26-09-2020 11:22PM #1

0pMy two dogs sleep outside in a dog house. I see it's to be quite cold tonight. I would normally let them sleep inside if I seen it was to be this cold but they like there little bed too. I do worry about them when it's this cold do

Graces7 · 27-09-2020 03:09AM

AMKC wrote: »

0pMy two dogs sleep outside in a dog house. I see it's to be quite cold tonight. I would normally let them sleep inside if I seen it was to be this cold but they like there little bed too. I do worry about them when it's this cold do

If you are worried, bring them in?

Then they and you will sleep..

Maybe bring their bed in too?

bobbyy gee · 27-09-2020 03:14AM

what type of dogs

https://m.petmd.com/dog/care/how-cold-too-cold-dog

The Belly · 27-09-2020 03:36AM

Depends on the breed.

bertiebomber · 30-09-2020 11:02AM

october to april dogs in

VonVix · 30-09-2020 11:34AM

Too many factors to give the right answer. Easiest thing is to just not leave the dog outside over night.

My friend recently took a husky off her neighbour, the husky had a deep rooted lung infection that the previous owners were basically unaware of, likely from spending years left outside. So just because a dog seems built for the outdoors, does not necessarily mean they are so.

cocker5 · 30-09-2020 11:38AM

It’s depends on the breed / dog itself and age is also a factor!

Personally I much prefer to have my guy inside where he is warm, happy and safe each night (and also during the day) he’s part of the family and my family sleep indoors!

AMKC · 30-09-2020 01:21PM

They are Yorkshire Terriors. I watch the weather every night and if I think it's too cold for them I do not leave them outside as they do like being but they also love being in.

cocker5 · 30-09-2020 01:30PM

AMKC wrote: »

They are Yorkshire Terriors. I watch the weather every night and if I think it's too cold for them I do not leave them outside as they do like being but they also love being in.

Honestly they should be in all the time - they have light / whispy fur .. def not ‘built’ for being outside.

If the like being inside too why not let them sleep inside all the time - that’s just me!

charlietheminxx · 30-09-2020 02:53PM

Aside from anything else, there has been so much dog theft lately that having a dog outside unsupervised is probably not a good idea.

Esel · 30-09-2020 03:00PM

charlietheminxx wrote: »

Aside from anything else, there has been so much dog theft lately that having a dog outside unsupervised is probably not a good idea.

A Garda said on Crimecall the other night that the number of reported dog thefts this year is the same as last year.

AMKC · 30-09-2020 03:21PM

cocker5 wrote: »

Honestly they should be in all the time - they have light / whispy fur .. def not ‘built’ for being outside.

If the like being inside too why not let them sleep inside all the time - that’s just me!

Thanks. Ideally I would leave them inside if they could go out through the door on there own but that would mean changing glass on the patio door to have a glass in it with a dog door. Its either that or leave the door open which I am not mad about doing in winter and they were outside all Summer so will see.

em_cat · 30-09-2020 06:11PM

AMKC wrote: »

They are Yorkshire Terriors. I watch the weather every night and if I think it's too cold for them I do not leave them outside as they do like being but they also love being in.

Dear god, bring them in, Yorkies have such thin coats as in single layer and little to no body fat. For info, I don’t believe any dog should be made to sleep outdoors, especially at night, but in this case definitely not yorkies. Also they are one of the most stolen breeds and from experience I know how cold they get.

BloodBath · 30-09-2020 06:13PM

AMKC wrote: »

0pMy two dogs sleep outside in a dog house. I see it's to be quite cold tonight. I would normally let them sleep inside if I seen it was to be this cold but they like there little bed too. I do worry about them when it's this cold do

Don't keep dogs if you aren't willing to let them live in your home.

It's animal cruelty. I doubt you worry about them too much if you're willing to do that.

Especially a tiny thin breed like that that was never made to live outside in the first place. Why do you keep pets?

sadie1502 · 30-09-2020 06:17PM

Why have you to leave the door open? They are tiny little dogs very whispy hair and hardly any body fat. Not built for the outdoors at all. I would definitely be keeping them in doors without a second thought.

cocker5 · 30-09-2020 06:21PM

AMKC wrote: »

Thanks. Ideally I would leave them inside if they could go out through the door on there own but that would mean changing glass on the patio door to have a glass in it with a dog door. Its either that or leave the door open which I am not mad about doing in winter and they were outside all Summer so will see.

I don’t understand.. why do u need a dog door?

My guy sleeps inside all night and is in all day with no access to the garden - I let him out numerous times during they day.. he sleeps through the night

em_cat · 30-09-2020 06:26PM

AMKC wrote: »

Thanks. Ideally I would leave them inside if they could go out through the door on there own but that would mean changing glass on the patio door to have a glass in it with a dog door. Its either that or leave the door open which I am not mad about doing in winter and they were outside all Summer so will see.

I don’t understand, is this a case of you thinking they want to be outside all the time so there will be issues if brought inside? Dogs are opportunists and if given the opportunity to sleep in a warm, cosy kitchen or living room or somewhere near their humans, they will. Not to mention, the fireworks, most dogs hate them and if left outside they might get a serious fright that is very difficult to desensitise and can be extremely expensive to treat if traumatised.

Will say, we’ve a yorkie that is a rescue, was definitely left outside sometime in his life, weather it was all the time or some we don’t know, however he is very sound sensitive and is very much like a greyhound in terms of retaining body heat, he burrows and will crawl under the duvet on our bed to keep warm. I eventually made him his own wool duvet cover to burrow in while our Pom cross runs warm and likes to sleep on the kitchen floor if the heating comes on...

BloodBath · 30-09-2020 06:27PM

NO NEED FOR THAT.
Consider this a warning.

DBB · 30-09-2020 06:38PM

BloodBath wrote: »

I hope somebody steals them. They will probably end up in a better home.

Okay... I'll step in here and put a stop to the rhetoric about the op's abilities as an owner. Instead of berating them, why not do as other posters have, and use this as an opportunity to share knowledge with the op on why it might be best to bring the dogs in?
It is my overwhelming experience that if you take on to insult and offend people in these situations, you will not only alienate them, you will also not get the change in behaviour that you're looking for.
Post with respect please. Otherwise, don't post.
Thanks.
DBB

BloodBath · 30-09-2020 06:40PM

Right, it was deleted already but now you're quoting it.

I'm an animal lover and I consider this animal cruelty.

Maybe not the best way to approach it but it annoys the crap out of me when people do this.

This is not some semi wild breed of dog evolved for the outdoors. It's a tiny vulnerable breed bred to be looked after by humans.

Kilboor · 30-09-2020 06:41PM

Absolute bonkers people in this world.

Nothing wrong with a dog sleeping outside in mild weather, you should be able to know yourself if it's too cold to leave them out though - especially if they're older.

But a well insulated kennel with plenty of bedding is more than enough for most dogs in our mild climate unless it's extra frosty out.

DBB · 30-09-2020 06:44PM

BloodBath wrote: »

Right, it was deleted already but now you're quoting it.

Merely a result of your below-par post attracting the attention of 2 mods at once.

Maybe not the best way to approach it but it annoys the crap out of me when people do this.

We're all animal lovers here, but that doesn't give any of us a right to break forum rules by posting in an insulting manner.
Like I say, try to educate rather than berate. You're more likely to achieve the exact opposite of what you want otherwise.
Now, back on topic please. Do not reply to this post on thread.
Thanks.
DBB

BloodBath · 30-09-2020 06:47PM

Kilboor wrote: »

Absolute bonkers people in this world.

Nothing wrong with a dog sleeping outside in mild weather, you should be able to know yourself if it's too cold to leave them out though - especially if they're older.

But a well insulated kennel with plenty of bedding is more than enough for most dogs in our mild climate unless it's extra frosty out.

Yes plenty of bonkers people who don't know a thing about the animal they are meant to be looking after.

Anything below 10c is too cold to be leaving them out. A well insulated kennel is not going to help much for a small breed like this.

When the temperature is 45 degrees Farenheight (around 7 degrees Celcius) a Yorkshire Terrier will find it difficult to regulate their body temperature. As Yorkies have a small body mass and a finer coat than most breeds. They also don’t have the undercoat of breeds that were bred for cold climates.

It is important to not only take in to account the temperature. The wind chill factor can really affect your Yorkies comfort level. Even more, cold rain, sleet, and wet snow will quickly be absorbed by their coat. Their coat will retain the water which when combined with the cold, can quickly increase the risk of hypothermia.

https://barkhow.com/yorkie-temperature-tolerance/#:~:text=When%20the%20temperature%20is%2045,were%20bred%20for%20cold%20climates.

cocker5 · 30-09-2020 06:50PM

Kilboor wrote: »

Absolute bonkers people in this world.

Nothing wrong with a dog sleeping outside in mild weather, you should be able to know yourself if it's too cold to leave them out though - especially if they're older.

But a well insulated kennel with plenty of bedding is more than enough for most dogs in our mild climate unless it's extra frosty out.

Sorry but there are a lot of breeds that are thinned skinned and have light wispy fur and In normal standard dog kennel (wooden , plastic) they would be freezing .. ok if you’ve built a brick kennel and insulated it and maybe have a heat lamp then fine.. 99% of dog owners have standard dog kennels from the likes of maxi zoo - And these these are not warm enough for the OP dogs ..

Unlike my springer who had thick fur and an undercoat so technically yes he’d be ok outside .. but he MUCH prefers to be snuzzing in the kitchen happy out with his teddies and Orthopedic dog bed !

Where dogs can sleep .. and where they should sleep are 2 different things’

Kilboor · 30-09-2020 06:53PM

BloodBath wrote: »

Yes plenty of bonkers people who don't know a thing about the animal they are meant to be looking after.

Anything below 10c is too cold to be leaving them out. A well insulated kennel is not going to help much for a small breed like this.

https://barkhow.com/yorkie-temperature-tolerance/#:~:text=When%20the%20temperature%20is%2045,were%20bred%20for%20cold%20climates.

Yes that's the dog sleeping outside uncovered., in a kennel it's a different story..I'm not advocating for making the dog sleep outside, I'm saying that a well insulated kennel is a perfectly reasonable place for a dog (an animal) to sleep especially in mild weather. I would personally have a Yorkshire terrier inside but it's not animal cruelty to leave a dog sleep in a kennel outside.

BloodBath · 30-09-2020 06:59PM

Maybe not all breeds and entirely dependent on the quality of the kennel, the breed of dog and the climate.

Op never made any mention of a kennel, just some beds that will get damp and cold outside. What if it's also wet?

They did say they take them inside when it's colder. What about rain? It's something we have no shortage of.

The weather is not predictable either. Just because the forecast says no rain for the night and temps above 10c doesn't mean that will be the reality.

bertiebomber · 30-09-2020 07:19PM

buy a crate put it in the kitchen at night closed with a newspaper for wee. give then a thick fleecy blanket in the crate dismantle the crate in the daytime simple or else re home the poor little mites . Yorkies never grow enough hair to be out doors they are lapdogs. To be on the lap of their human not in a squalid kennel outside.

AMKC · 30-09-2020 08:02PM

They are well looked after and well spoilt and both rescue dogs. As to the dog house they sleep in it is well insulated both in the walls and the roof and is not from maxi zoo or any of that crap. My brother made it for his dogs and then gave it to me after they grew too big for it. I normally bring them In at winter but they are still dogs and leaving them in the kitchen would result in a mess. I might get a crate as a poster above suggested. Yes I would prefer to keep them inside during winter but during the summer months they are happier outside as they are too warm inside. They do get up the bed occasionally too but it's not something I do with them too often as then they start to think they get to go there all the time only during winter.

Darc19 · 30-09-2020 08:07PM

Esel wrote: »

A Garda said on Crimecall the other night that the number of reported dog thefts this year is the same as last year.

But but but but Fakebook and a friend of a friend's work mate's brother's friend said that every dog in his estate was stolen, so the gardai and official figures must be wrong.

It's a conspiracy Joe, a conspiracy.

As for the op, I'd be allowing them in from now on, gets quite chilly these nights and weather for next week looks dreadful.

newbie18892 · 30-09-2020 08:32PM

AMKC wrote: »

They are well looked after and well spoilt and both rescue dogs. As to the dog house they sleep in it is well insulated both in the walls and the roof and is not from maxi zoo or any of that crap. My brother made it for his dogs and then gave it to me after they grew too big for it. I normally bring them In at winter but they are still dogs and leaving them in the kitchen would result in a mess. I might get a crate as a poster above suggested. Yes I would prefer to keep them inside during winter but during the summer months they are happier outside as they are too warm inside. They do get up the bed occasionally too but it's not something I do with them too often as then they start to think they get to go there all the time only during winter.

Surely they can be trained to not make a mess? My two rescue terriers always sleep in the kitchen in their crates and haven't had any accidents during the night since they were tiny puppies being toilet trained.

cocker5 · 30-09-2020 08:34PM

AMKC wrote: »

They are well looked after and well spoilt and both rescue dogs. As to the dog house they sleep in it is well insulated both in the walls and the roof and is not from maxi zoo or any of that crap. My brother made it for his dogs and then gave it to me after they grew too big for it. I normally bring them In at winter but they are still dogs and leaving them in the kitchen would result in a mess. I might get a crate as a poster above suggested. Yes I would prefer to keep them inside during winter but during the summer months they are happier outside as they are too warm inside. They do get up the bed occasionally too but it's not something I do with them too often as then they start to think they get to go there all the time only during winter.

I’m surprised they are rescues OP as most rescues will not rehome dogs to homes where they will be sleeping outside. Not saying I don’t believe you or anything just stating a fact

If your hell bent on leaving them outside why not get heaters for under their bedding to make sure they are ok?

Something like this:

https://www.petworld.ie/product/snuggle-safe-microwave-wireless-heatpad-with-fleece-cover/

You pop it in microwave then under their bedding ...

Will keep u both happy

What temperature do you think is too cold to leave a dog outside?

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