Garda traffic on Twitter 3

Mr Snow · 21-09-2020 4:33pm

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1307956524803911680

Mr Snow · 21-09-2020 4:34pm

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1307978696888852481

Mr Snow · 21-09-2020 4:34pm

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308032885195190272

joujoujou · 21-09-2020 11:04pm

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308121580522942466

Odyssey 2005 · 22-09-2020 12:35am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Been stopped on the Curragh 3 times in the last couple of weeks at night when parked up. Each time they check my licence and reg and spend a few mins on the computer in the 4x4. They will know me on sight soon lol.
We are only out doing our 10km walk and then having a chat and Fennel tea. Albeit quite late at night. They never breathalyze me but maybe the smell of fennel and liquorice emanating from the car puts them off. Nice to know it's well patrolled.

They weren't stopping too many in the Curragh a few months back

akelly02 · 22-09-2020 2:59pm

the drugs detected is off the charts. how long would cocaine show up on a test?

are these lads intoxicated at the time , or are these lads having their pints an lines on a friday night and getting done on the monday?

MetzgerMeister · 22-09-2020 3:01pm

The effects of Cocaine only last 30 - 60 mins but it can be picked up in your blood stream for days afterwards.

akelly02 · 22-09-2020 3:10pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

The effects of Cocaine only last 30 - 60 mins but it can be picked up in your blood stream for days afterwards.

on the oral test would it be a few days?.

or are they all out of it driving around the place

joujoujou · 22-09-2020 3:19pm

https://twitter.com/gardainfo/status/1308291753770795008

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308376393730928641

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308391036931264512

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308397865950117889

MetzgerMeister · 23-09-2020 9:18am

akelly02 wrote: »

on the oral test would it be a few days?.

or are they all out of it driving around the place

Simple answer is I don't know

h3000 · 23-09-2020 10:02am

Now that's a fast one.
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308692966597328896?s=20

joujoujou · 23-09-2020 3:45pm

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308666100826148864

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308682537091375104

Akesh · 23-09-2020 4:29pm

akelly02 wrote: »

the drugs detected is off the charts. how long would cocaine show up on a test?

are these lads intoxicated at the time , or are these lads having their pints an lines on a friday night and getting done on the monday?

The roadside oral swabs are as good as drawing a random result from a hat. I missed a flight thanks to one of those test. Failed for Cannabis and then bloods came back clean. The devices the Gardai use are no longer used in Canada due to their unreliability.

Gardai should have to carry out an impairment roadside test as the legislation is for driving under the influence but there is no onus on the state to prove you are actually impaired.

GNWoodd · 23-09-2020 10:01pm

Akesh wrote: »

The roadside oral swabs are as good as drawing a random result from a hat. I missed a flight thanks to one of those test. Failed for Cannabis and then bloods came back clean. The devices the Gardai use are no longer used in Canada due to their unreliability.

Gardai should have to carry out an impairment roadside test as the legislation is for driving under the influence but there is no onus on the state to prove you are actually impaired.

Similarly with drink driving ,the onus should be on the prosecution to prove actual impairment .
Since Ross introduced the most recent restrictions , a good few people seem to have been caught the morning after when they couldn’t possibly be impaired.
Very inconsistent results abound.

h3000 · 23-09-2020 10:27pm

GNWoodd wrote: »

Similarly with drink driving ,the onus should be on the prosecution to prove actual impairment .
Since Ross introduced the most recent restrictions , a good few people seem to have been caught the morning after when they couldn’t possibly be impaired.
Very inconsistent results abound.

Of course they could be impaired. I’ve woken up on mornings in absolutely no shape to drive.

akelly02 · 23-09-2020 10:36pm

h3000 wrote: »

Of course they could be impaired. I’ve woken up on mornings in absolutely no shape to drive.

But have you ever smoked a j or had a line of a friday and be impaired on the Monday when you are stabbed??

GNWoodd · 23-09-2020 10:37pm

h3000 wrote: »

Of course they could be impaired. I’ve woken up on mornings in absolutely no shape to drive.

Of course they COULD have been impaired but they weren’t .
In some cases , even the tests are contradictory

kapisko1PL · 23-09-2020 10:38pm

h3000 wrote: »

Now that's a fast one.
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308692966597328896?s=20

What kind of angle was this taken from? Looks like it has almost been from the side.

Fair play to the guards though. 220kmh, one mistake and you're done.

h3000 · 23-09-2020 10:46pm

GNWoodd wrote: »

Similarly with drink driving ,the onus should be on the prosecution to prove actual impairment .
Since Ross introduced the most recent restrictions , a good few people seem to have been caught the morning after when they couldn’t possibly be impaired.
Very inconsistent results abound.

GNWoodd wrote: »

Of course they COULD have been impaired but they weren’t .
In some cases , even the tests are contradictory

They could have been impaired though. The offence is

(2) A person shall not drive or attempt to drive a mechanically propelled vehicle in a public place while there is present in his or her body a quantity of alcohol such that, within 3 hours after so driving or attempting to drive, the concentration of alcohol in his or her blood will exceed a concentration of—

(a) 50 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, or

(b) in case the person is a specified person, 20 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood.

(3) A person shall not drive or attempt to drive a mechanically propelled vehicle in a public place while there is present in his or her body a quantity of alcohol such that, within 3 hours after so driving or attempting to drive, the concentration of alcohol in his or her urine will exceed a concentration of—

(a) 67 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine, or

(b) in case the person is a specified person, 27 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine.

(4) A person shall not drive or attempt to drive a mechanically propelled vehicle in a public place while there is present in his or her body a quantity of alcohol such that, within 3 hours after so driving or attempting to drive, the concentration of alcohol in his or her breath will exceed a concentration of—

(a) 22 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath, or

(b) in case the person is a specified person, 9 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath.

If you need to drive the next morning make sure you leave enough time for your body to process the alcohol. It may not be convenient when your having a good night out but it really isn’t a big ask.

h3000 · 23-09-2020 10:55pm

akelly02 wrote: »

But have you ever smoked a j or had a line of a friday and be impaired on the Monday when you are stabbed??

I can’t answer this question too well as I haven’t smoked in years and have never done anything else. I have wondered though for how long is cannabis detectable in your system by the Garda tests and is there a limit to when they do and don’t prosecute.

joujoujou · 23-09-2020 11:02pm

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1308780829120888839

GNWoodd · 23-09-2020 11:10pm

h3000 wrote: »

They could have been impaired though. The offence is

If you need to drive the next morning make sure you leave enough time for your body to process the alcohol. It may not be convenient when your having a good night out but it really isn’t a big ask.

Seeing as you wish to quote the law :
If a sample provided by a motorist did not exceed the limit specified in one sub section but a subsequent sample exceeded that outlined in another subsection ,is that motorist impaired ?

Witcher · 24-09-2020 12:07am

GNWoodd wrote: »

Seeing as you wish to quote the law :
If a sample provided by a motorist did not exceed the limit specified in one sub section but a subsequent sample exceeded that outlined in another subsection ,is that motorist impaired ?

Subsequent samples...what are you on about?

You only provide one sample

Either blood, breath or urine for alcohol or blood for drugs.

ohnonotgmail · 24-09-2020 8:57am

Akesh wrote: »

The roadside oral swabs are as good as drawing a random result from a hat. I missed a flight thanks to one of those test. Failed for Cannabis and then bloods came back clean. The devices the Gardai use are no longer used in Canada due to their unreliability.

Gardai should have to carry out an impairment roadside test as the legislation is for driving under the influence but there is no onus on the state to prove you are actually impaired.

the roadside tests are only indicative. they are not sufficiently accurate to be evidential. it is the same with the roadside alcohol tests.

neris · 24-09-2020 9:23am

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1307741793841225733?s=19

h3000 · 24-09-2020 9:40am

GNWoodd wrote: »

Seeing as you wish to quote the law :
If a sample provided by a motorist did not exceed the limit specified in one sub section but a subsequent sample exceeded that outlined in another subsection ,is that motorist impaired ?

I didn't believe they took multiple different types of evidential samples but if they do and you are over the limit in one then you are over the limit. I'm sure that is one you could fight fairly well in court though.

Again though it's simple enough. If you need to drive leave enough time for your body to process the alcohol. The limits are quite clear.

flazio · 24-09-2020 9:44am

Please don't tell me people want to introduce that hill Billy method of walking on lines and touching your nose on the roadside.

lovelyhurler · 24-09-2020 10:02am

neris wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1307741793841225733?s=19

It really is the stupid ones who get caught.................

GNWoodd · 24-09-2020 12:48pm

h3000 wrote: »

I didn't believe they took multiple different types of evidential samples but if they do and you are over the limit in one then you are over the limit. I'm sure that is one you could fight fairly well in court though.

Again though it's simple enough. If you need to drive leave enough time for your body to process the alcohol. The limits are quite clear.

My point is the limits are far from clear .
Leaving enough time for your body to process the alcohol is the narrative from the RSA , AGS etc but that narrative should be questioned.
I am not talking about drinking a barrel of it and driving immediately .
I’m referring to having a few pints the evening / night before and being unlucky enough to be stopped early the following morning . The average Joe / Josephine cannot tell if they under or over the limit if multiple tests have to be pursued to determine legal impairment .

ohnonotgmail · 24-09-2020 1:08pm

GNWoodd wrote: »

My point is the limits are far from clear .
Leaving enough time for your body to process the alcohol is the narrative from the RSA , AGS etc but that narrative should be questioned.
I am not talking about drinking a barrel of it and driving immediately .
I’m referring to having a few pints the evening / night before and being unlucky enough to be stopped early the following morning . The average Joe / Josephine cannot tell if they under or over the limit if multiple tests have to be pursued to determine legal impairment .

there are two tests administered. the roadside test is simply to determine if you may be over the limit or close to it. it is not used in court. when you are taken to the station you take EITHER a blood, urine or breath test. multiple tests are not required for a conviction.

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