Let's all talk about Lewis?

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 09:02PM

What if we just get some random dude to wear a t shirt outling Lewis Hamiltons punishment. Maybe the winner of the next Moto GP.

rock22 · 15-09-2020 08:26AM

The anti BLM comments here speak so loudly about why Lewis needs to continue highlighting these issues.

chopperbyrne · 15-09-2020 08:45AM

Yep, the t-shirt had her picture on the back with text saying "Say her name"

The front said "Arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor".

According to some here, he's judge and jury, and said kill the cops who killed her.

Boards is reflective of Ireland, and Ireland has huge racism issues.

Gaoth Laidir · 15-09-2020 11:23AM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Yep, the t-shirt had her picture on the back with text saying "Say her name"

The front said "Arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor".

According to some here, he's judge and jury, and said kill the cops who killed her.

Boards is reflective of Ireland, and Ireland has huge racism issues.

Who said he had said "kill" the cops? I missed that comment.

Man with broke phone · 15-09-2020 11:51AM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Yep, the t-shirt had her picture on the back with text saying "Say her name"

The front said "Arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor".

According to some here, he's judge and jury, and said kill the cops who killed her.

Boards is reflective of Ireland, and Ireland has huge racism issues.

Boards hasnt been reflective of Ireland in decades. There is nothing racist about wanting to allow the police due process when they have to shoot people in line of duty. Read up on the case in question.
The protestors were wrecking pensylvania last night because a black guy got shot running at police with a big knife on camera. He was out on bail awaiting trial for stabbing 4 people last year. Is not backing these protestors racist?

ThewhiteJesus · 15-09-2020 11:54AM

I’m a big fan of Lewis the driver and actually the man himself a lot of times but he’s ruining his legacy with this militant stuff, sport should be about sport, not poppies or blm or any other in topic on social media

Anjobe · 15-09-2020 12:21PM

FIA investigation into the Breonna Taylor t-shirt over before it even began:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/54161846.

Richard Hillman · 15-09-2020 01:28PM

I think Hamilton is trying to get himself Blackballed like Colin Kaepernick. He's 35, he's out of contract soon and surely Mercedes realise they can win without him and with a much cheaper driver. There has also been a lot of talk lately about Mercedes dodgy past. Not good for business.

Red Bull won't touch him with the owner being critical of him, Ferrari probably wouldnt go there and then the other teams will have him coming into their teams demanding things like Diversity Quotas and promoting political campaigns.

Groups like Mercedes, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari etc. Their target market isn't exactly the woke crowd. It's middle aged white men and they know that.

Being Blackballed in sport can be very lucrative if you have the right profile, as Colin Kaepernick found out.

Gaoth Laidir · 15-09-2020 01:39PM

Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said on Saturday that Hamilton had the organisation's full support in his desire to highlight racial injustice and that it was up to him what T-shirts he wished to wear to demonstrate that.

"No question - it is entirely his decision," Wolff said. "Whatever he does, we will support. The team is fighting against any kind of racism and discrimination and it is Lewis's personal fight for Black Lives Matter and with all the support we can give him. It's his call."

So you go off and do whatever you want, Lewis. Here are some toys and a pram.

SureYWouldntYa · 15-09-2020 02:16PM

If Merc were to decide for next year that their car is so dominant that any competent driver would win in their car, would then love to be a fly on the wall for contract negotiations with Lewis and his team, be a serious game of cat and mouse

In reality they’ll stick with whats safe in Lewis unless his demands are ridiculous

Killinator · 15-09-2020 02:22PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think Hamilton is trying to get himself Blackballed like Colin Kaepernick. He's 35, he's out of contract soon and surely Mercedes realise they can win without him and with a much cheaper driver. There has also been a lot of talk lately about Mercedes dodgy past. Not good for business.

Red Bull won't touch him with the owner being critical of him, Ferrari probably wouldnt go there and then the other teams will have him coming into their teams demanding things like Diversity Quotas and promoting political campaigns.

Groups like Mercedes, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari etc. Their target market isn't exactly the woke crowd. It's middle aged white men and they know that.

Being Blackballed in sport can be very lucrative if you have the right profile, as Colin Kaepernick found out.

That's ridiculous!
He's on the cusp of becoming the greatest driver in history (talking from a championship wins perspective, before I get hounded)

He ain't throwing that away by making a martyr of himself for BLM.

Anjobe · 15-09-2020 02:29PM

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

So you go off and do whatever you want, Lewis. Here are some toys and a pram.

Hilarious, plenty of toys being thrown out of the pram here, but not by Hamilton.

Richard Hillman · 15-09-2020 03:37PM

Killinator wrote: »

That's ridiculous!
He's on the cusp of becoming the greatest driver in history (talking from a championship wins perspective, before I get hounded)

He ain't throwing that away by making a martyr of himself for BLM.

He'll get the most race wins record this season and will be joint for most Championships. Roll on for another season. Break the Championship Record and then he can be the martyr.

Leave Mercedes because they wouldn't dance to his tune. Leave himself without a team, knowing that it's too much hassle for the big teams to take him on. The smaller teams will want him but he'll issue demands that can't be met.

He then becomes a martyr. The teams have Blackballed him. The Sports/Fashion brands keep him on the payroll even though he is essentially retired and he becomes a professional activist.

Killinator · 15-09-2020 03:48PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

He'll get the most race wins record this season and will be joint for most Championships. Roll on for another season. Break the Championship Record and then he can be the martyr.

Leave Mercedes because they wouldn't dance to his tune. Leave himself without a team, knowing that it's too much hassle for the big teams to take him on. The smaller teams will want him but he'll issue demands that can't be met.

He then becomes a martyr. The teams have Blackballed him. The Sports/Fashion brands keep him on the payroll even though he is essentially retired and he becomes a professional activist.

I don't see it. I see him as the kind of guy who not only wants to be the record holder but wants to make it so his records are unassailable in the future.
And nothing has really indicated anything other than Merc bending to his wishes. There's enough proof with Bottas that the 'any old driver will do it in a Merc' belief is false. I wouldn't rely on Bottas to secure a championship. Any of the other top drivers like Max or Charles would cost a fortune anyway and don't have the brand recognition Lewis brings to Merc.
It suits all parties involved to keep him.

You can say what you like about him but Lewis is a bloody dedicated driver, he's been driving since he was a child and didn't get selected by McLaren or Merc for no reason.
For these top sports people it's an addiction, you don't throw away a career like that willy nilly and certainly not for a few social media shares and likes.

Inquitus · 17-09-2020 04:39PM

What's the point of this thread, lets be obnoxious to Lewis, question all his achievements and hate on him as much as possible? I though boards was better than this. He's far from my favourite driver but this thread is far too OTT.

17-09-2020 04:51PM

Inquitus wrote: »

What's the point of this thread, lets be obnoxious to Lewis, question all his achievements and hate on him as much as possible? I though boards was better than this. He's far from my favourite driver but this thread is far too OTT.

You're absolutely correct but wasting your time unfortunately.

ThewhiteJesus · 17-09-2020 04:53PM

it's his recent militant actions that have let him down imo, nothing to do with his driving, how could there be, he's clearly the best in this type of car.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 05:08PM

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

it's his recent militant actions that have let him down imo, nothing to do with his driving, how could there be, he's clearly the best in this type of car.

This thread is 2 years old so no, it's not about his recent militant actions!
There seems to be an inherent dislike of him by some that goes way beyond the norm.

ThewhiteJesus · 17-09-2020 05:16PM

Killinator wrote: »

This thread is 2 years old so no, it's not about his recent militant actions!
There seems to be an inherent dislike of him by some that goes way beyond the norm.

i did say in my opinion, so let me guess you think it's because he's black ?
He's a divisive character, always has been, always will be.
For the record i am a fan, well i was until recently as outlined above.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 05:23PM

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

i did say in my opinion, so let me guess you think it's because he's black ?
He's a divisive character, always has been, always will be.
For the record i am a fan, well i was until recently as outlined above.

Ha, nice attempt. I never mentioned his skin colour but if that's the first thing that pops into your head then fair enough.
I'm a fan too but I'd don't like some things he says or does or wears, but the difference is I wouldn't come into a thread criticising him for wearing a hair tie or having an assistant.

I just don't know why so many (here included) get sooo riled up about him negatively, he doesn't do much that the others don't do that I can see.
And as I said, this thread is 2 years old so it wasn't started because of his BLM beliefs or actions.
He does come across as a d*ck sometimes but then I'd be hard pressed to pick a single driver on the grid who doesn't, hell most of Kimi's radio conversations seem to be him being an absolute boll*x to his engineer but everyone loves it.
Now genuinely, imagine if Lewis told his engineer to 'shut up, he knew what he was doing'. This thread would have another few hundred posts!

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 05:24PM

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

Killinator · 17-09-2020 05:27PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

Can you clarify how him and his brands are forced on us?
I don't own anything he pushes and don't see him from race weekend to race weekend.
BLM is being pushed everywhere so that's not a lewis exclusive

rock22 · 17-09-2020 05:56PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

Are you seriously saying that we, all of us, should not support the BLM movement ?

donspeekinglesh · 17-09-2020 06:27PM

Inquitus wrote: »

What's the point of this thread, lets be obnoxious to Lewis, question all his achievements and hate on him as much as possible? I though boards was better than this. He's far from my favourite driver but this thread is far too OTT.

It keeps it in one place and stops it infecting every other thread. Sometimes

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 06:31PM

rock22 wrote: »

Are you seriously saying that we, all of us, should not support the BLM movement ?

What do you know about its inner workings ideologies, fund raising and money spending?

RurtBeynolds · 17-09-2020 06:44PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

You're being a tad dismissive of the cause of the BLM, it's hardly because they 'don't like the voting system'.

One would be forgiven for thinking you might have an issue with black people.

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 07:07PM

RurtBeynolds wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

You're being a tad dismissive of the cause of the BLM, it's hardly because they 'don't like the voting system'.

One would be forgiven for thinking you might have an issue with black people.

I think Bob Marleys great, Marcus Rashford is doing stellar work getting poor kids full bellies in England, Steel Pulse I have alot of time for,Wan Bissaka is a hero of mine, Patrice Evra, Paul Pogba, I like when David McGoldrick is in the Irish team, Edgar Davids, off the top of my head, funnily enough I dont have a problem with these people who happen to be black.

None of them talk like Jedward, try sell us something whenever they are on tv, live a pretend life selling us everything in the picture, have a blond girl bashing the knees off herself trying to carry his scooter while he puts a bobbin in his hair, or ask the mob to arrest police officers without a trial or the facts of the case.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 07:25PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think Bob Marleys great, Marcus Rashford is doing stellar work getting poor kids full bellies in England, Steel Pulse I have alot of time for,Wan Bissaka is a hero of mine, Patrice Evra, Paul Pogba, I like when David McGoldrick is in the Irish team, Edgar Davids, off the top of my head, funnily enough I dont have a problem with these people who happen to be black.

, try sell us something whenever they are on tv, live a pretend life selling us everything in the picture, have a blond girl bashing the knees off herself trying to carry his scooter while he puts a bobbin in his hair, or ask the mob to arrest police officers without a trial or the facts of the case.

Riiiight except alot of that isn't true.
I mean footballers are trying to sell stuff pretty much anytime you see them on tv, be it their Nike or Adidas brands or the sponsors on their shirts or the sponsors at their clubs stadiums as they play. They are as much walking billboards as F1 drivers.

And to believe you've brought Pogba into this and criticised Lewis over his style or assistants is irony at its finest!
Do you criticised Giovinazzi over wearing a hair bobbin? Is it because his assistant is a woman or in general because you can't help but highlight how she is a 'blonde girl'.
Is the scooter the issue, seems a practical way to move around the paddock fast, I've been to many a paddock where they cycle or use a moped. But he can hardly carry it in the car with him!
Lewis supports the following, at a minimum:
Education Africa
Great Ormond Street Hospital
Harlem Children's Zone
Save the Children
The Honeypot Children's Charity
UNICEF

He's also currently promoting the BLM topic as he is a prolific figure in his field and is black at the same time.
Rashford and Pogba both also support BLM, to the point Pogba got a haircut with the BLM logo shaved in!!!!

And in relation to demanding the arrest of those cops, seeing the facts and the fact that the state paid out to the victims family, indicating wrongdoing then it seems fair to arrest them before trial, because everyone arrested for an offence is in fact arrested before they are tried on said allegation. They are hardly going to be arrested after they have been on trial.

So that leaves 'talking like Jedward' but I don't have a clue what that's supposed to mean

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 07:42PM

Killinator wrote: »

Riiiight except alot of that isn't true.
I mean footballers are trying to sell stuff pretty much anytime you see them on tv, be it their Nike or Adidas brands or the sponsors on their shirts or the sponsors at their clubs stadiums as they play. They are as much walking billboards as F1 drivers.

And to believe you've brought Pogba into this and criticised Lewis over his style or assistants is irony at its finest!
Do you criticised Giovinazzi over wearing a hair bobbin? Is it because his assistant is a woman or in general because you can't help but highlight how she is a 'blonde girl'.
Is the scooter the issue, seems a practical way to move around the paddock fast, I've been to many a paddock where they cycle or use a moped. But he can hardly carry it in the car with him!
Lewis supports the following, at a minimum:
Education Africa
Great Ormond Street Hospital
Harlem Children's Zone
Save the Children
The Honeypot Children's Charity
UNICEF

He's also currently promoting the BLM topic as he is a prolific figure in his field and is black at the same time.
Rashford and Pogba both also support BLM, to the point Pogba got a haircut with the BLM logo shaved in!!!!

And in relation to demanding the arrest of those cops, seeing the facts and the fact that the state paid out to the victims family, indicating wrongdoing then it seems fair to arrest them before trial, because everyone arrested for an offence is in fact arrested before they are tried on said allegation. They are hardly going to be arrested after they have been on trial.

So that leaves 'talking like Jedward' but I don't have a clue what that's supposed to mean

Funnily enough the footballers dont do this during the 90 minutes I watch them each week. Ive also never seen any of them in the tabloids pretending to have a new mystery girlfriend who we have never seen with him before or after but piles of brands in all the pictures. None of them talk like Jedward.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 08:27PM

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Funnily enough the footballers dont do this during the 90 minutes I watch them each week. Ive also never seen any of them in the tabloids pretending to have a new mystery girlfriend who we have never seen with him before or after but piles of brands in all the pictures. None of them talk like Jedward.

What does 'talk like Jedward' mean'?

So footballers don't advertise over the 90 minutes (apart from shirt sponsors and sports wear) but they do outside of that.
Funnily enough I don't remember Lewis talking about Monster energy or Mercedes saloons while driving around Monza or Mugello while he's in the car racing for 90 odd minutes either, but he does outside of it as he is probably contractually obliged to do.
No idea what the mystery girlfriend is in relation to, link?

Face it, your setting a double standard and criticising him for stuff that the people you look up to are doing too.

I notice you didn't comment on Rashford and Pogba's BLM stance anymore?

Let's all talk about Lewis?

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